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PC Hardware Buyer's Guide May 2011

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stoff3r 10th May 2011, 21:22 Quote
Thanks for this article once again. It's one of my favorite series of articles allthough I don't usually read the text so much. Just excited to see whats new :)

Premium Player: Premium vacuum-cleaner.
Snips 10th May 2011, 21:36 Quote
The "Most" sites statement counts for nothing on "THIS" site.

Again, the 6990 has no place on this elite list.
leexgx 10th May 2011, 21:39 Quote
really the C300 is an fast SSD as it is, and i prefer to buy something that's been out for an bit so that the firmware has had all the bugs worked out, why i would not currently get an second gen SF based SSD yet

anything more then an SF first gen or C300 it ant going to be slow (unless your doing Server loads then your would be looking at SLC based SSDs)
Digi 10th May 2011, 21:44 Quote
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Originally Posted by Snips
The "Most" sites statement counts for nothing on "THIS" site.
Again, the 6990 has no place on this elite list.

That's your opinion and it's (in my opinion) both immature and wrong. Keep the fanboy vitriol off here please, BT is supposed to be a site for quality discussion by enthusiasts.

If in doubt, see Pete J's well rounded answer.. (keep in mind he has nvidia cards in his machine)
Action_Parsnip 10th May 2011, 22:25 Quote
-snip-
randomhero 10th May 2011, 22:29 Quote
I should be set for a while, shouldn't ?

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K @ 4.65 GHZ
Motherboard: Asus P8P67 Deluxe
Memory: 16GB Corsair Vengeance 1,600MHz DDR3
Graphics Card: 2xMSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II/OC
PSU: Corsair AX 850W
CPU Cooler Corsair H70 Hydro-series with Noctua NF-S12B FLX Fans
Case: Fractal Design R3 Black Pearl with all Noctua Fans
Optical drive: Samsung DVD+RW/Blu-ray Reader SH-B123L
Storage (HDD): Seagate Barracuda XT 2 TB
Storage (SSD): Waiting for OCZ Vertex 3 to be released in Norway
Action_Parsnip 10th May 2011, 22:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by bogie170
+1 on the crossfire issue. I just bought the Asus P8P67 Deluxe as it has its own optimised PLX crossfire engine embedded into the mobo for more performance.


"optimised PLX crossfire engine " now there's some marketing lingo right there :P

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Originally Posted by Snips
....Again, the 6990 has no place on this elite list.

why? and are you disadvantaged in some physical regard?
chrismarkham1982 10th May 2011, 22:45 Quote
re 590 v 6990, bit-tech are going to go on their own opinions rather than anyone elses, they will use their own reviews and not anyone elses and their own reviews have the 590 slightly ahead of 6990 so its only natural they will recomend it, if you have a problem then dont buy it...simple really.

edit: ive not aimed this at anyone, its a simple explanation for people who still cant grasp why bit-tech have recomended 590 over the 6990
Sloth 10th May 2011, 22:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by Pete J
I was wondering how quickly this would be brought up. First post, no less! You have to remember that in the BT tests, the 590 fared well against the 6990 and was comparatively quiet.
+1 and thank you for pointing that out.

Bit's tests, Bit's results, Bit's recommendation. It's one hardware guide based on their reviews, a serious buyer should look around at other sites for their reviews and guides to make sure they've got a well-rounded perspective on all of their options.

A quick look around the hardware section of the forum will quickly show that most builds are variants of the hardware guide and rarely, if ever, follow any build exactly.
CowBlazed 10th May 2011, 22:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by Parge
Surprised you didn't opt for a 5850 Xtreme @ £100 over a 460 GTX!

This. The 5850 is considerably faster then a GTX 460 1GB, and even faster then the "mid range" system's 6850. Roughly on par with a 6870 except in heavy tesselation, and all for less money then both.

Kinda makes those recommendations look like crap.
Material 10th May 2011, 23:10 Quote
As we've said before, we cant recommend stuff we haven't reviewed, so that's why some of the stuff you guys have suggested hasn't made it in.

Expect a review of the Crucial M4 and the Vertex 3 very soon though :-)
Horizon 11th May 2011, 00:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by Snips
The "Most" sites statement counts for nothing on "THIS" site.

Again, the 6990 has no place on this elite list.

Well, there isn't anything elite about this site.
Fingers66 11th May 2011, 01:12 Quote
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Originally Posted by Material
As we've said before, we cant recommend stuff we haven't reviewed, so that's why some of the stuff you guys have suggested hasn't made it in.

Expect a review of the Crucial M4 and the Vertex 3 very soon though :-)

So I assume that you have reviewed the Corsair CX430 Builder Series PSU then? If so, did you review the non-80 Plus version one or the new, 80 Plus certified version 2?
chrismarkham1982 11th May 2011, 01:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by Horizon
Well, there isn't anything elite about this site.

so you dont agree with bit-tech.....and that means you need to take a swipe at them because.......?
and besides i dont they or anyone else claimed that bit-tech was elite
play_boy_2000 11th May 2011, 01:54 Quote
Why the 4GB ram reccomendation??? The extra $40 for an 8GB kit is easily worth it, and this is a enthusiast forum, no?
sp4nky 11th May 2011, 02:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by Material
As we've said before, we cant recommend stuff we haven't reviewed, so that's why some of the stuff you guys have suggested hasn't made it in.

Expect a review of the Crucial M4 and the Vertex 3 very soon though :-)

Could you point me to the review of the HighPoint Rocket 620? I found the 640 but not the one you've recommended.
Siwini 11th May 2011, 03:19 Quote
I don’t see why you guys keep recommending Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H motherboard. It’s been discontinued for month now.
PandaMonster 11th May 2011, 05:56 Quote
Hmm, I notice enthusiast has 4gb @ 1600mhz... don't those tend to have higher latency? like 10-10- x-x or 9-9-x-27? From what i've been reading, games perform better with ram that has lower latency, regardless of having a lower clock... for example a 4gb/8gb 1333mhz 7-7-7-14(?)

re: 6990 vs 590

It's true that the 6990 is the king in many other sites (more-so than not) BUT, bit-tech can't contradict their own review by preferring a card that to them was the lesser of the two... It wouldn't make sense.
PandaMonster 11th May 2011, 06:00 Quote
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Originally Posted by PandaMonster
Hmm, I notice enthusiast has 4gb @ 1600mhz... don't those tend to have higher latency? like 10-10- x-x or 9-9-x-27? From what i've been reading, games perform better with ram that has lower latency, regardless of having a lower clock... for example a 4gb/8gb 1333mhz 7-7-7-14(?)

re: 6990 vs 590

It's true that the 6990 is the king in many other sites (more-so than not) BUT, bit-tech can't contradict their own review by preferring a card that to them was the lesser of the two... It wouldn't make sense.

Sorry, I meant Premium, and it says 8gb of 1600mhz.. Shouldn't that be a lower latency ram (they tend to be far more expensive... a premium price perhaps...) and doesn't lower latency come with lower clock, naturally speaking? liek i said above 1333mhz with 7-7-7-14?

Correct me if I'm wrong actually, thanks!
PandaMonster 11th May 2011, 06:01 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by PandaMonster
Hmm, I notice enthusiast has 4gb @ 1600mhz... don't those tend to have higher latency? like 10-10- x-x or 9-9-x-27? From what i've been reading, games perform better with ram that has lower latency, regardless of having a lower clock... for example a 4gb/8gb 1333mhz 7-7-7-14(?)

re: 6990 vs 590

It's true that the 6990 is the king in many other sites (more-so than not) BUT, bit-tech can't contradict their own review by preferring a card that to them was the lesser of the two... It wouldn't make sense.

Sorry, I meant Premium, and it says 8gb of 1600mhz.. Shouldn't that be a lower latency ram (they tend to be far more expensive... a premium price perhaps...) and doesn't lower latency come with lower clock, naturally speaking? liek i said above, 1333mhz with 7-7-7-14?

Correct me if I'm wrong actually, thanks!
guvnar 11th May 2011, 10:05 Quote
Has pandamonstet finished posting?

(we all have days like this!)

I would like to see a monitor recommendation at the different sizes also.

Otherwise keep going...
guvnar 11th May 2011, 10:07 Quote
Sorry, I meant PandaMonster! ;-)
sotu1 11th May 2011, 10:15 Quote
wait, what happened to the monthly uber1337crazybutstupidlynamedawardnobelpeaceprizeaward PC build of the month?
Xir 11th May 2011, 10:45 Quote
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Originally Posted by DbD
With the Z68 motherboards coming out tomorrow if I understand correctly I would have thought the best thing to do right now is wait a few days
Hmm I'd have expected this too, wouldn't be the first time.
this and :
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we recommend checking back to the site in the coming weeks, as we’ve got plenty more B3-stepping P67 boards in the labs at the moment
Makes me feel the Z68 could be less good than expected (or BT has lag in testing) :D*gets coat*
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Originally Posted by tongey54
Premium player-
...
Surely some kind of Blu-Ray player in this build?
Yah, at LEAST in the premium one there should be a bluray player.

Btw. we haven't had a DVD/Bluray drive test in....my has it been that long?
About time?
Have you noticed the silver disks turned blue, and downloading 50GB of bluray isn't that attractive? ;)
Snips 11th May 2011, 11:53 Quote
What a Joke. All the whining because your precious 6990 isn't on the list.

Grow up ladies. If you don't like the recommendation then don't come here.

@ Action Parsnip, your misses didn't think I was disadvantaged.

@ Horizon, why come here then?

@ Digi, keep your fanboi vitriol off here as well

@ Sloth, I disagree since I built the Budget, Gamer and Enthusiast to Bit-Techs exact spec and haven't looked back. The so called alternatives just weren't alternatives.
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