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PC Hardware Buyer's Guide May 2011

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jakobfrimmel 10th May 2011, 13:43 Quote
GTX 590 most powerful card?
i thought that was the HD 6990....
r3loaded 10th May 2011, 13:45 Quote
I wouldn't pick up a C300 nowadays, especially with the Crucial M4, the Intel 510 and the immense OCZ Vertex 3 available at similar price points.
Action_Parsnip 10th May 2011, 13:56 Quote
Erm........... gtx590? Id say its an even coin toss between that and the 6990, wouldnt you? Otherwise, nice lists of kit made.
Shayper09 10th May 2011, 13:58 Quote
Hd6990>Gtx590

Why you ask?

I prefer my computer not to explode when given something challenging to do...
Parge 10th May 2011, 14:01 Quote
Surprised you didn't opt for a 5850 Xtreme @ £100 over a 460 GTX!
logan'srun 10th May 2011, 14:11 Quote
if I wanted a photo- editing machine(multi-tasker, some film editing - no gaming) with tons of storage should I look at the set up for the Gaming Workhorse or the All Rounder?
Luay 10th May 2011, 14:18 Quote
Thanks Bit-Tech and respect to not recommending a new part until you get your hands on it, such as the Crucial M4 SSD 64GB which is $30 more expensive than the C300.
Not optimistic about the SIlverstone Raven 03 when the reviews come out.
GTX590 is hard to find. I'd change the motherboard to Pro (2 pci-e2.0 x 8), and go for HD6950 2GB CF.
I would recommend the Asus Proart 24" 1920x1200 ips display.
bogie170 10th May 2011, 14:22 Quote
You guys seriously need to review the OCZ Vertex 3 Max IOPS SSD. I think that you should choose it for premium player rig.
Cei 10th May 2011, 14:25 Quote
Phew, my system is still current despite being bought in January. Was expecting it to be obsolete by now...

Glad to see the R3 is available in the US now too!
Luay 10th May 2011, 14:26 Quote
One more thing about the cooler. You haven't mentioned Thermalright's SIlver Arrow, nor Noctua's NHD14 & NHC14, so I'm not sure what you guys make of them compared to the Dark Rock, unless you haven't reviewed them yet. Thanks as always!
Snips 10th May 2011, 15:04 Quote
LOL the 6990 fanbois start it off again. It has no place on this elite list.
sotu1 10th May 2011, 15:07 Quote
probably has been stated before, but can we add speakers, headsets and monitors to those lists? I'm sure you've already got a stack of decent recommendations and they wouldn't change month to month....plzthanks
KiNETiK 10th May 2011, 15:12 Quote
560Ti over a 480GTX? You can get a standard 480GTX for same price as this 560Ti or pay a little more and get a Gigabyte SOC addition which will give you near on 580GTX performance...
wuyanxu 10th May 2011, 15:12 Quote
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Originally Posted by sotu1
probably has been stated before, but can we add speakers, headsets and monitors to those lists? I'm sure you've already got a stack of decent recommendations and they wouldn't change month to month....plzthanks
monitor: Dell U2711
;)

Bit-tech concluded with 590 being faster than 6990, they are obviously not going to do a U-turn in a hardware recommendation article.
DbD 10th May 2011, 16:19 Quote
With the Z68 motherboards coming out tomorrow if I understand correctly I would have thought the best thing to do right now is wait a few days (I am about to do a partial build and that's what I am planning to do).
Valinor 10th May 2011, 16:40 Quote
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Originally Posted by r3loaded
I wouldn't pick up a C300 nowadays, especially with the Crucial M4, the Intel 510 and the immense OCZ Vertex 3 available at similar price points.

The Crucial M4 is generally ~£40-£60 cheaper than the other two drives, which are roughly the same price.
Pete J 10th May 2011, 16:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by jakobfrimmel
GTX 590 most powerful card?
i thought that was the HD 6990....
I was wondering how quickly this would be brought up. First post, no less! You have to remember that in the BT tests, the 590 fared well against the 6990 and was comparatively quiet.
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Originally Posted by Snips
LOL the 6990 fanbois start it off again. It has no place on this elite list.
Not true. Most other sites have the 6990 beating the 590.
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Originally Posted by Parge
Surprised you didn't opt for a 5850 Xtreme @ £100 over a 460 GTX!
Damn good point! Though they haven't reviewed it yet...
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Originally Posted by KiNETiK
560Ti over a 480GTX? You can get a standard 480GTX for same price as this 560Ti or pay a little more and get a Gigabyte SOC addition which will give you near on 580GTX performance...
The 480 would require a more powerful PSU (extra money right there) and a stock version would be louder than a 560.
technogiant 10th May 2011, 16:57 Quote
Trouble with the motherboard you've chosen is the lack of any possibility of crossfire/sli because the second slot is only X4 electrically. That really limits the possibility of making a gaming powerhouse by using two more buget minded overclockable cards.

For instance my current system a Foxconn X38a chipset mobo socket 775 has two pciex16 2.0 both of which are x16 electrically even when both populated......I'm using an sli patch as the mobo chipset doesn't normally support sli and have two palit 2gb gtx460's sli'ed together and OCed to 820MHz from the stock of 675MHz.....matched with a Q6600 @3.5GH and 8Gb DDR2 this would shame all but your most expensive build in gpu limited gaming scenarios.

It really does play Crysis.......at max settings and 1920X1200.
bogie170 10th May 2011, 17:57 Quote
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Originally Posted by technogiant
Trouble with the motherboard you've chosen is the lack of any possibility of crossfire/sli because the second slot is only X4 electrically. That really limits the possibility of making a gaming powerhouse by using two more buget minded overclockable cards.

For instance my current system a Foxconn X38a chipset mobo socket 775 has two pciex16 2.0 both of which are x16 electrically even when both populated......I'm using an sli patch as the mobo chipset doesn't normally support sli and have two palit 2gb gtx460's sli'ed together and OCed to 820MHz from the stock of 675MHz.....matched with a Q6600 @3.5GH and 8Gb DDR2 this would shame all but your most expensive build in gpu limited gaming scenarios.

It really does play Crysis.......at max settings and 1920X1200.

+1 on the crossfire issue. I just bought the Asus P8P67 Deluxe as it has its own optimised PLX crossfire engine embedded into the mobo for more performance.
tad2008 10th May 2011, 18:05 Quote
One thing that I have noticed missing off the (mostly) monthly buyers guide is benchmarks for each setup to give a better overall comparison on performance and suitability and we all know how much you love to spend time in the air conditioned labs ;o)
tongey54 10th May 2011, 18:36 Quote
Premium player-
GTX 580 instead of 590, almost as much performance for the money, better drivers.
Corsair AX750 worth a look.
Frio clashes with the board, I'd take a Corsair A70 instead.
Surely some kind of Blu-Ray player in this build?
Vertex 3 instead of the C300 but I know you haven't reviewed this yet.
Rocket card? Why? The on-board SATA III controller is fast enough and you don't have to wait for it to initialize during boot. Plus there's no real drivers out for it.
Sound card could be a little more high end if your into your audio, like an Essence STX?
Cobalt 10th May 2011, 19:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by technogiant
Trouble with the motherboard you've chosen is the lack of any possibility of crossfire/sli because the second slot is only X4 electrically. That really limits the possibility of making a gaming powerhouse by using two more buget minded overclockable cards.

For instance my current system a Foxconn X38a chipset mobo socket 775 has two pciex16 2.0 both of which are x16 electrically even when both populated......I'm using an sli patch as the mobo chipset doesn't normally support sli and have two palit 2gb gtx460's sli'ed together and OCed to 820MHz from the stock of 675MHz.....matched with a Q6600 @3.5GH and 8Gb DDR2 this would shame all but your most expensive build in gpu limited gaming scenarios.

It really does play Crysis.......at max settings and 1920X1200.

Bit-tech's official stance seems to be that multi-GPU isn't worth it so I'm not surprised that they don't recommend CF/SLI capable systems.
Jipa 10th May 2011, 19:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by Cobalt
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Originally Posted by technogiant
Trouble with the motherboard you've chosen is the lack of any possibility of crossfire/sli because the second slot is only X4 electrically. That really limits the possibility of making a gaming powerhouse by using two more buget minded overclockable cards.

For instance my current system a Foxconn X38a chipset mobo socket 775 has two pciex16 2.0 both of which are x16 electrically even when both populated......I'm using an sli patch as the mobo chipset doesn't normally support sli and have two palit 2gb gtx460's sli'ed together and OCed to 820MHz from the stock of 675MHz.....matched with a Q6600 @3.5GH and 8Gb DDR2 this would shame all but your most expensive build in gpu limited gaming scenarios.

It really does play Crysis.......at max settings and 1920X1200.

Bit-tech's official stance seems to be that multi-GPU isn't worth it so I'm not surprised that they don't recommend CF/SLI capable systems.

Multi-GPU isn't worth it yet they recommend the GTX 590.. It's a curious world we live in :D
Just 10th May 2011, 19:59 Quote
Hi guys can you please also add a monitor section because there are a lot of monitors out there and it is hard to know what to buy... I am going to build a gaming workhorse in a few months and I'm totally lost when it comes to the monitor...

Looking for a monitor about 23" full hd and good at gaming so 2 ms but the rest I'm not sure about that at all... please add the monitor section again guys ty :D
technogiant 10th May 2011, 20:03 Quote
Well considering many games are getting 80%+ performance increase by adding a second card in sli since the 400 series of Nvidia cards its a bit of a no brainer.......spending £135 on a second card to upgrade my system and once overclocked getting near equivalent performance to a gtx 580 priced at £350+

Thats generally what I do with a new build, get a mobo that allows for multi gpu, initially get a mid to high end graphics card with plenty of OC potential that represents value for money and then at a later date when a new generation comes out and prices drop then get a second one....works for me.
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