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What Hardware Should I Buy? - October 2009

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Toka 8th October 2009, 16:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by tad2008
I know news is a bit quiet and that we are waiting for the new technology to finally come out and reach your hands so you can ply us with the juicy details and that enthusiasm might be a little low just now, so perhaps it's time for another round of deserts, perhaps a round up on Gypsy Tart, Lemon Meringue or even recommendations on a good dentist!

Im never sure how TMS managed to wrangle the constant stream of cakes, but maybe you would like something similar. I could post you some cheescake etc.

Im sure it would arrive just fine.
Bindibadgi 8th October 2009, 19:05 Quote
Fixed: Folding Rig DDR3 memory label
Fixed: DDR3 memory link for UK in Affordable and Enthusiast systems, changed to GSkill 1600 Cl9
Fixed: Used cheaper OCZ DDR3 1600MHz 6GB Core i7 kit for UK in Workhorse and Premium PCs
Fixed: £ to $ in Workhorse PC
wuyanxu 8th October 2009, 19:38 Quote
love to read Bittech's guide, always keeps me up to date with the month's component pricing. and wow, 4890 price is really low!

currently, is i5 750 the only CPU being bought for LGA1156, in UK? i wonder when will there be an Intel price drop, especially on the i7 860.
frontline 8th October 2009, 20:08 Quote
Great guide as always :)
Hansge 8th October 2009, 22:18 Quote
Uhm, you state that the MSI 770-C45 cannot unlock cores?
If i enable ES Firmwire and ACC in my bios my Phenom II x3 720 Turns into a X4 "20" with working cores. So i guess newest bios or "european" released mobo has the feature afterall.
vdbswong 9th October 2009, 00:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by Hansge
Uhm, you state that the MSI 770-C45 cannot unlock cores?
If i enable ES Firmwire and ACC in my bios my Phenom II x3 720 Turns into a X4 "20" with working cores. So i guess newest bios or "european" released mobo has the feature afterall.
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Originally Posted by PABzONE
Hello folks, just registered so I could correct an error, both this article and review on the MSI 770-C45( http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/motherboards/2009/09/17/msi-770-c45-motherboard-review/3 ) says that there is no no core unlocking, not sure on bios v1.2 but on bios v1.3 there is a working ACC. I have my AMD Phenom II 550BE open to 4 cores on the MSI 770-C45. I took a gamble it would work, it did, hope this helps anyone else thinking of buying this board with the idea of overclocking. Remember just because it can open cores, it still depends on a lot of luck whether your CPU will have 4 stable cores to open. I must have been lucky :-)

Star*Dagger 9th October 2009, 04:45 Quote
Great feature, I wonder about the anemic PSUs you guys always suggest though. Going with a Kilowatt in a top end machine is always a safer bet than too little power.

Yours in 1250 Watts PSU Loving Plasma,
Star*Dagger
vdbswong 9th October 2009, 08:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by Star*Dagger
Great feature, I wonder about the anemic PSUs you guys always suggest though. Going with a Kilowatt in a top end machine is always a safer bet than too little power.

Yours in 1250 Watts PSU Loving Plasma,
Star*Dagger

The problem is that if you have your PSU wattage too high then even though the PSU will only take what it needs, at the ~300-500W peak load you're still only pulling 20/30/50% of the PSU's total power. Whilst the 50% value is fine for efficiency, anything below that means you're just wasting both electricity and money. Not to mention if 50% is peak load, then when the computer is idle you'll still end up drawing way more than you need.
Bindibadgi 9th October 2009, 08:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by Star*Dagger
Great feature, I wonder about the anemic PSUs you guys always suggest though. Going with a Kilowatt in a top end machine is always a safer bet than too little power.

Yours in 1250 Watts PSU Loving Plasma,
Star*Dagger

There's absolutely no need.

It takes FOUR GTX 295s to saturate a kilowatt.
00se7en 9th October 2009, 18:22 Quote
Dabs now have the Crucial SSDs in stock at £219 and mine has shipped :-) Hopefully other retailers will follow suit.
Aracos 10th October 2009, 00:24 Quote
Enthusiast overclocker, Radeon 4890 link goes to a Asus GTX260 glaciator at £125 =\

Also same section, the Hard drive description new [eurl=http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/storage/2009/10/06/samsung-spinpoint-f3-1tb-review/1]1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3[/eurl,
Looks like you missed out a bracket thingy.
mrbens 10th October 2009, 12:43 Quote
Hi I just have a quick question about the Asus P6T Deluxe V2 which you recommend.

It's apparantly being discontinued with the Asus P6TD Deluxe now replacing it.

Will they both have exactly the same performance or did the V2 improve in any way over the V1 and now the P6TD improves on the V2? Or was it just removing the SAS ports and nothing else that changed between V1 and V2?

Since they are both exactly the same price I don't know which one to buy.

I'd rather go for the newer one but have never heard bit-tech even mention it.

Please help!
Jetfire 11th October 2009, 13:51 Quote
How good is the "OCZ 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz/PC3-12800 Obsidian Triple Channel Memory Kit CL9(9-9-9-24) 1.65V" for overclocking?

Should I spend a bit more on the corsair xms3 modules?

Thanks.
MrTrick 12th October 2009, 03:00 Quote
I'm after a basic motherboard/cpu for a half-height HTPC system... Can anyone recommend a MicroATX motherboard with similar specs to the MSI 770-C45 ?
(I don't need fancy dolby 1111+1 specs or integrated graphics, just decent price/performance specs)
mrbens 12th October 2009, 12:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by 00se7en
Dabs now have the Crucial SSDs in stock at £219 and mine has shipped :-) Hopefully other retailers will follow suit.

Thanks for the tip. I ordered mine on Saturday and got an email back saying:
New Estimated Stock Availability : 19/10/2009

Not too long. :)
smithgjb 12th October 2009, 14:46 Quote
Started to put an order together for the various components listed, only to be told that the Asus P6t Deluxe v2 is now obsolete! Agghh, finally made the commitment and decision to proceed, only to find the motherboard has gone!! Any recommendations in its place? The Asus P6t is still available it seems, would that be a good replacement? I'm not much of a gamer, thinking more of the video editing and future proofing. Thanks and regards
Graham
oatey4519 12th October 2009, 14:54 Quote
Asus P6TD Deluxe

its the same board..
small changes but i can't remember what..
No SAS port i think

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-P6TD-Deluxe-Intel-X58-Sok-1366-PCI-E-20(x16)-DDR3-2000-1800-1666-SATA-3Gb-s-RAID-ATX
Hoffs 12th October 2009, 16:40 Quote
A good read, cheers guys :)
00se7en 12th October 2009, 17:25 Quote
rpsgc - You were right. My Crucial SSD arrived today :-) All it needs now is the new firmware and some TRIM-supporting Intel Storage Matrix drivers.
Bindibadgi 12th October 2009, 17:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by Jetfire
How good is the "OCZ 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz/PC3-12800 Obsidian Triple Channel Memory Kit CL9(9-9-9-24) 1.65V" for overclocking?

Should I spend a bit more on the corsair xms3 modules?

Thanks.

Check the G.Skill 2000MHz Ripjaws at Novatech - plenty more overhead and are usually a good price. Failing that, try Scan or Ebuyer for OCZ/ Corsair.
barrkel 12th October 2009, 18:38 Quote
May be worth pointing out: Titan Fenrir is big enough in its default install (pushing air through heatsink to rear of case) that it blocks off one of the 6 memory slots on the Asus P6T v2 motherboard, especially as DDR3 is usually quite tall with heat spreader etc.
srmans 13th October 2009, 09:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by barrkel
May be worth pointing out: Titan Fenrir is big enough in its default install (pushing air through heatsink to rear of case) that it blocks off one of the 6 memory slots on the Asus P6T v2 motherboard, especially as DDR3 is usually quite tall with heat spreader etc.

Yes I noticed this too with my build using same HSF with an Asus P6T board. Although if you only get one set of three DIMMs then my M/B manual states to use the orange slots furthest away from the CPU socket first which are clear of the HSF. See M/B picture.
barrkel 13th October 2009, 17:06 Quote
Unfortunately, my day job is a software developer, and building our dev tree requires touching many GB of data. The more file cache I have available, the better; so 12GB it is.

Provisionally, I have the fenrir around backwards, with the fan attached backwards, so it is sucking air through the heatsink and directly into the rear case fan. If heat becomes an issue long term, I'll replace it with something smaller.

Unfortunately, I ran into a different problem, a bad 5870, so I have to wait to have that returned and replaced before this system gets into serious use.
mrbens 14th October 2009, 17:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by mrbens
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Originally Posted by 00se7en
Dabs now have the Crucial SSDs in stock at £219 and mine has shipped :-) Hopefully other retailers will follow suit.

Thanks for the tip. I ordered mine on Saturday and got an email back saying:
New Estimated Stock Availability : 19/10/2009

Not too long. :)

UPDATE: mine arrived today instead of 19/10/2009!
00se7en 15th October 2009, 17:47 Quote
Good job - Dabs price now back up to over £270! Mine's installed and working, but awaiting Retail Windows 7 and a firmware update to enable TRIM.
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