Umm. On the premium hardware section, how is it possible for the ACTS 840 to cost less in dollars than it does in pounds... What is wrong with prices of parts in the UK..
The current exchange rate is bad for us UK buyers. Less than a year ago we were around 2 dollars to the pound, now its 1.4.
A 4850 cost me £130 when it launched in the summer. Right now the same site sells the same card for £122.
On some products we still get it nearly as cheap as in the US but others its up to 50% more.
I'm thinking of following the affordable to upgrade my current A64 3500 system. looks a good spec for the price.
Quick question though, I'm currently using a Hiper Type R 480watt PSU, it should be able to handle that spec right?
Cheers guys.
I'll stick the Win7 beta as the OS on this I think (at least until August any way).
Originally Posted by Mankz Umm. On the premium hardware section, how is it possible for the ACTS 840 to cost less in dollars than it does in pounds... What is wrong with prices of parts in the UK..
It evens out a bit with US sales tax added, but on average you'll always pay more here in the UK
Why there is no consideration in premium for a SLI 285GTX , i belive its gonna do much better than a 4870x2 or a 295, and in the end, its still premium :P
Given that the 7750 Black edition Athlon X2 is now ~£60, is higher frequency, based on Agena (Kuma) core and has L3 cache that the 4850 doesn't have, not to mention higher overclocking headroom and unlocked multiplier, surely that shoudl replace the 4850e in the low end spec??
Also, maybe even for the same segment, the Phenom (and Phenom II) X3's are extremely good value when compared to higher clocked dual cores from Intel, especially given the highly multi-threaded state of games and applications these days.
(i just bought one and it clocked to 3 Ghz easily outs my mates E6750 @ 3.3Ghz)
I still think it is weird that the Q6600 is the high end, i bought this over a year ago for only £8 more than listed in this article, true its a great performer and overclocker, and i definately have got my monies worth out of this system! Just need an update to the graphics card it seems.
The Q6600 still being there is kind of a joke IMO. Even the Phenom 9850 could compete against the Q6600 at stock and mild overclocked speeds, compared to the new AM3 CPUs such as the X4 810 or 910 its quite simply outclassed.
Not to mention the fact that the price for the Q6600 or the E8400 for that matter is the same if not higher then it was over a year ago.
Include in your display IMO Dell 2408WFP, the new revision ( newer then anad tested) was reported as having almost none inputlag, and the price is kinda nice, somewhere around £500 and it's even better without any calibration, that some of the displays after the hardware calibrations, so it speaks for itself.
I'd like to ask about the Antec Three Hundred: I'm fine with the way it looks, and it's great that it has capable cooling, but: what about the noise of it and the dust accumulation inside?
Isn't the March high-end machine completely the same as the February one? I just built a machine a week ago with the exact listed hardware and I was following the Feb, guide.. Only difference in my shopping was that I bought a 750W Corsair and 2 x 2x2GB XMS2.
Edit: just noticed that you changed the Antec 802 with the 902. I guess I was just looking for you to have changed mobo and cpu but apparently the market is a bit in a standstill atm.
Originally Posted by CowBlazed The Q6600 still being there is kind of a joke IMO. Even the Phenom 9850 could compete against the Q6600 at stock and mild overclocked speeds, compared to the new AM3 CPUs such as the X4 810 or 910 its quite simply outclassed.
I agree. Cheapest Phenom X4 completely annihilates 6600 (when overclocked). I know that it's a memorable CPU for some, but it's time to let go ;)
Originally Posted by Oreon_237 apparently the gigabyte boards are getting tons of failures and returns. am i wrong saying this?
News to me tbh. From what I've read recently most people are moving from x to Gigabyte. And having said that - it's like PSUs and hard drives where everyone gets bad experiences and preferences of product.
Originally Posted by CowBlazed The Q6600 still being there is kind of a joke IMO. Even the Phenom 9850 could compete against the Q6600 at stock and mild overclocked speeds, compared to the new AM3 CPUs such as the X4 810 or 910 its quite simply outclassed.
Not to mention the fact that the price for the Q6600 or the E8400 for that matter is the same if not higher then it was over a year ago.
No, I don't agree at all. Clock for clock the Intel Core 2 Duos are faster and the Q6600s will do 3.3GHz easily at lower voltages than an overclocked X4 940 which will top out usually at 3.6GHz unless you get a really good one, and it's also more expensive (and so are the better AMD boards) to boot.
I want to throw in the Q9400 or Q9550 but again they're both more expensive and the lower multiplier hinders overclocking somewhat.
RE: Low end PC - we're trying to keep the cost as low as possible, and the 7750 BE will be a good alternative at £60, I do agree, the 4850e will still overclock heavily for £49. It's the same as saying "well, scrap the P43 and go P45" - we could but then we wouldn't be really minimising cost. Maybe it's worth beefing out the alternatives..?
Originally Posted by Queelis I'd like to ask about the Antec Three Hundred: I'm fine with the way it looks, and it's great that it has capable cooling, but: what about the noise of it and the dust accumulation inside?
Thanks in advance for answers.
No dust filters, but both the fans have 3-step fan speed controllers, so on the lowest speed it's fairly well behaved as far as noise goes, with the option to switch to wind tunnel mode if you wish.,
Originally Posted by Queelis No dust filters, but both the fans have 3-step fan speed controllers, so on the lowest speed it's fairly well behaved as far as noise goes, with the option to switch to wind tunnel mode if you wish.,
on newegg it says it does come with filters?
"The front panel includes a pair of USB 2.0 inputs as well as jacks for a headphone and microphone. The front bezel is perforated for maximum air intake and it has a washable filter to reduce dust within the system. Inside, are a total of nine drive bays six 3.5 internal HDDs and a trio of 5.25 external drives. Seven expansion card slots let you load up on graphic and other options up to and including a full height ATX motherboard. A rear-mounted 120mm TriCool fan as well as a top-mounted 140mm TriCool fan both with 3-speed switch control draw air through the case."
i too was thinking about buying this case
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi No, I don't agree at all. Clock for clock the Intel Core 2 Duos are faster and the Q6600s will do 3.3GHz easily at lower voltages than an overclocked X4 940 which will top out usually at 3.6GHz unless you get a really good one, and it's also more expensive (and so are the better AMD boards) to boot.
what are you thoughts about the x3 720 vs the q6600?
if you want to cut costs, you don't have to go the ddr3 option for the 720
and from people's comments it's easily overclockable (up to 3.7-3.8)
and the 720 is cheaper by a good amount as well
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi No, I don't agree at all. Clock for clock the Intel Core 2 Duos are faster and the Q6600s will do 3.3GHz easily at lower voltages than an overclocked X4 940 which will top out usually at 3.6GHz unless you get a really good one, and it's also more expensive (and so are the better AMD boards) to boot.
what are you thoughts about the x3 720 vs the q6600?
if you want to cut costs, you don't have to go the ddr3 option for the 720
and from people's comments it's easily overclockable (up to 3.7-3.8)
and the 720 is cheaper by a good amount as well
I also like the fact that with the phenom IIs you are investing in the newer am3 socket. I am reluctant to buy into the 775 still. I remember the last time I built a new system I went for 939 and then a few months later am2 came along, and 939 was virtually forgotten overnight. How much more life does the 775 have?
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ReplyA 4850 cost me £130 when it launched in the summer. Right now the same site sells the same card for £122.
On some products we still get it nearly as cheap as in the US but others its up to 50% more.
Quick question though, I'm currently using a Hiper Type R 480watt PSU, it should be able to handle that spec right?
Cheers guys.
I'll stick the Win7 beta as the OS on this I think (at least until August any way).
And instead of the 4850BE you can grab a 7750+ BE for around $66(US).
But overall great article as expected, just that some of the alternatives are...lacking..
ps: You could always get a 2 GTX 285s and have it cost $670 but pretty much outperform the rest of the cards..
And Where's the HD4850X2?
It evens out a bit with US sales tax added, but on average you'll always pay more here in the UK
Given that the 7750 Black edition Athlon X2 is now ~£60, is higher frequency, based on Agena (Kuma) core and has L3 cache that the 4850 doesn't have, not to mention higher overclocking headroom and unlocked multiplier, surely that shoudl replace the 4850e in the low end spec??
Also, maybe even for the same segment, the Phenom (and Phenom II) X3's are extremely good value when compared to higher clocked dual cores from Intel, especially given the highly multi-threaded state of games and applications these days.
(i just bought one and it clocked to 3 Ghz easily outs my mates E6750 @ 3.3Ghz)
Not to mention the fact that the price for the Q6600 or the E8400 for that matter is the same if not higher then it was over a year ago.
In the affordable section the pictured cooler is an Akasa 966 rather than the 965...
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Thanks in advance for answers.
It does have lag, at least compared to my dell 2001FP 20" displays. But not enough to care about.
I'm very happy with my 2408, another strong recomendation for a premium 24"
Edit: just noticed that you changed the Antec 802 with the 902. I guess I was just looking for you to have changed mobo and cpu but apparently the market is a bit in a standstill atm.
I agree. Cheapest Phenom X4 completely annihilates 6600 (when overclocked). I know that it's a memorable CPU for some, but it's time to let go ;)
I think so, All the time I've used them they've been great.
News to me tbh. From what I've read recently most people are moving from x to Gigabyte. And having said that - it's like PSUs and hard drives where everyone gets bad experiences and preferences of product.
No, I don't agree at all. Clock for clock the Intel Core 2 Duos are faster and the Q6600s will do 3.3GHz easily at lower voltages than an overclocked X4 940 which will top out usually at 3.6GHz unless you get a really good one, and it's also more expensive (and so are the better AMD boards) to boot.
I want to throw in the Q9400 or Q9550 but again they're both more expensive and the lower multiplier hinders overclocking somewhat.
RE: Low end PC - we're trying to keep the cost as low as possible, and the 7750 BE will be a good alternative at £60, I do agree, the 4850e will still overclock heavily for £49. It's the same as saying "well, scrap the P43 and go P45" - we could but then we wouldn't be really minimising cost. Maybe it's worth beefing out the alternatives..?
No dust filters, but both the fans have 3-step fan speed controllers, so on the lowest speed it's fairly well behaved as far as noise goes, with the option to switch to wind tunnel mode if you wish.,
on newegg it says it does come with filters?
"The front panel includes a pair of USB 2.0 inputs as well as jacks for a headphone and microphone. The front bezel is perforated for maximum air intake and it has a washable filter to reduce dust within the system. Inside, are a total of nine drive bays six 3.5 internal HDDs and a trio of 5.25 external drives. Seven expansion card slots let you load up on graphic and other options up to and including a full height ATX motherboard. A rear-mounted 120mm TriCool fan as well as a top-mounted 140mm TriCool fan both with 3-speed switch control draw air through the case."
i too was thinking about buying this case
what are you thoughts about the x3 720 vs the q6600?
if you want to cut costs, you don't have to go the ddr3 option for the 720
and from people's comments it's easily overclockable (up to 3.7-3.8)
and the 720 is cheaper by a good amount as well
I also like the fact that with the phenom IIs you are investing in the newer am3 socket. I am reluctant to buy into the 775 still. I remember the last time I built a new system I went for 939 and then a few months later am2 came along, and 939 was virtually forgotten overnight. How much more life does the 775 have?
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