Please fix the link on the US price for the Noctua cooler in the premium hardware! It leads to a page to buy the NH-U9B instead of the NH-U12P, and the NH-U9B does not include mounting hardware for socket 1366! That link has been a problem since the December article, and you still haven't fixed it! The NH-U12P SE1366 is out of stock at FrozenCPU.com, so here's a link to TigerDirect, where it seems to be in stock at the moment: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4350406
Originally Posted by Ending Credits Um, if the 3.0Ghz 940 Phenom II at stock matches a 3.6Ghz Q6600 then how does the 920 compare? It's the same price point as the Q6600.
The 3.0GHz 940 will manage the same kinda overclock as the Q6600, so you'll get to 3.5-3.6GHz on it. The 920 doesn't have the unlocked multiplier, so you're going to be more limited in scope when it comes to overclocking, as the HTT/NB clocks don't respond all that well to huge frequency bumps.
in the UK, Powercolor has the cheapest offering right now at just over £210. It's another victim of increasing prices unfortunately, but still cracking value, especially as it's only ten percent more expensive than the cheapest 4870 512MB - well worth it in our opinion.
yet the article lists the Sapphire 4870 ;)
edit: whoops, thx fixed - Baz
but seriously its about time the 4830 made it to the affordable system , it OC's like a demon and isnt that much slower clock for clock against a 4850 in most circumstances, but personally i'd recomend the Sapphire 4830 over the one listed, they seem to OC MUCH higher from every example ive seen, especially if you get one of the cards using the Hynix H5RS5223CFR-N0C chips, they seem to be easily capable of over 1100mhz clocks from everyone ive seen with the card (including me)
I hope AMD soon get their finger out of their (insert favorite bodypart) and gives Intel a good kick, Intel is sitting way too comfortable on the top right now.
Amazing that the high end system has gone up by £45 in a month.
Though the premium price has gone down by £20 for essentially identical components as last month.
It is a shame that you have had to drop the 4850 from the budget build but the 4830 doesn't look bad.
Great article,
Do you have any suggestions on an alternative Premium PSU, the Corsair is good but does not have the best efficiency?
Bindi - you promised a review of the Bequiet 850W modular.....
Thanks
Originally Posted by *mat-ster* Great article,
Do you have any suggestions on an alternative Premium PSU, the Corsair is good but does not have the best efficiency?
Bindi - you promised a review of the Bequiet 850W modular.....
Thanks
Th eBe Quiet Dark Power pro 1000W is nice. Very nice in fact.
Originally Posted by *mat-ster* Great article,
Do you have any suggestions on an alternative Premium PSU, the Corsair is good but does not have the best efficiency?
Bindi - you promised a review of the Bequiet 850W modular.....
Thanks
March now. I'm doing testing in Germany after CeBit should all things go well. It's simply having access to test facilities that's limiting us.
WRG to the premium, I did ask to put in the Antec Signature 850W which I think would be not only cheaper, but better efficiency than the HX1000 actually - must have slipped us by.
Originally Posted by Ending Credits Um, if the 3.0Ghz 940 Phenom II at stock matches a 3.6Ghz Q6600 then how does the 920 compare? It's the same price point as the Q6600.
Yea but the extra hardware to plug the 920 into is waaaaaaaaaaaay more expensive.
Originally Posted by Cupboard Amazing that the high end system has gone up by £45 in a month.
Though the premium price has gone down by £20 for essentially identical components as last month.
It is a shame that you have had to drop the 4850 from the budget build but the 4830 doesn't look bad.
Weakness of the pound, most of the stuff isn't made here(?), it's imported.
Any good alternatives to the Gigabyte GA-P31-DS3L? Looks a good board, almost exactly what I need, just the chipset's 4gig memory limitation puts me off a bit. I like VM's and need quite a few mem hungry apps open.
Originally Posted by OdDBaLL_MoD How would the ATI HD 4830 Compare to my XFX 7600GT?
Radeon 4830 or GeForce 9800GT packs a lot more firepower than GF7600. My brother has 7600GT and it's barely enough to run games at 1280×1024. 4830 should handle them perfectly at that resolution unless it's limited by CPU.
I'd like to ask if BeQuiet has made a dramatic change in their quality in the recent past? At least it has done well in tests here at Bit-Tech.
I'm asking this because I work in a computer store and assemble about 5 computers a day and frankly, BeQuiet would be the dead last PSU I'd pick up for myself. Well maybe second to last, since most Xilence branded PSUs seem to be dead in the water, so BeQuiet would go before them :)
And to further explain myself, BeQuiet seems to work quite well when new and it's quite good looking and well thought package all in all. Well at least the modular ones are, not too fond of the non-modular design with their ridiculously long wires, which are a PITA to hide in a case since usually you don't need most of them.
So the problems are rare when the unit is new, but BeQuiet seems to hold the questionable number one place in our guarantee department. Of all the PSUs we sell, they break the most. We send about three big boxes full of broken BeQuiet units a month back to the factory.
This is not to bash on BeQuiet, since I know that they were a good PSU manufacturer once and I believe that they can make good quality PSUs, but damn, that's a lot of broken units and the trust is long gone at least for me.
How do you guys feel about this. Also a comment from the Bit-Tech staff could be nice to hear.
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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4350406
edit: thx fixed - Baz
The 3.0GHz 940 will manage the same kinda overclock as the Q6600, so you'll get to 3.5-3.6GHz on it. The 920 doesn't have the unlocked multiplier, so you're going to be more limited in scope when it comes to overclocking, as the HTT/NB clocks don't respond all that well to huge frequency bumps.
yet the article lists the Sapphire 4870 ;)
edit: whoops, thx fixed - Baz
but seriously its about time the 4830 made it to the affordable system , it OC's like a demon and isnt that much slower clock for clock against a 4850 in most circumstances, but personally i'd recomend the Sapphire 4830 over the one listed, they seem to OC MUCH higher from every example ive seen, especially if you get one of the cards using the Hynix H5RS5223CFR-N0C chips, they seem to be easily capable of over 1100mhz clocks from everyone ive seen with the card (including me)
Though the premium price has gone down by £20 for essentially identical components as last month.
It is a shame that you have had to drop the 4850 from the budget build but the 4830 doesn't look bad.
Pixmania are still doing the sapphire dual slot version for £119:
http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/1483861/art/sapphire-technology/radeon-hd-4850-dual-slot.html?srcid=867
Then Scan and CCL both have reference 4850s at just over £120
Do you have any suggestions on an alternative Premium PSU, the Corsair is good but does not have the best efficiency?
Bindi - you promised a review of the Bequiet 850W modular.....
Thanks
Th eBe Quiet Dark Power pro 1000W is nice. Very nice in fact.
March now. I'm doing testing in Germany after CeBit should all things go well. It's simply having access to test facilities that's limiting us.
WRG to the premium, I did ask to put in the Antec Signature 850W which I think would be not only cheaper, but better efficiency than the HX1000 actually - must have slipped us by.
Yea but the extra hardware to plug the 920 into is waaaaaaaaaaaay more expensive.
Weakness of the pound, most of the stuff isn't made here(?), it's imported.
Are you sure he's not talking about the Phenom 920? :p
Great article again, quick question though: Gaming @ 1680x1050... Is a 4830 enough? The price surely makes it an interesting option.
Radeon 4830 or GeForce 9800GT packs a lot more firepower than GF7600. My brother has 7600GT and it's barely enough to run games at 1280×1024. 4830 should handle them perfectly at that resolution unless it's limited by CPU.
It'd quite frankly destroy it
According to the Graphics Card Hierarchy Chart at Tom's Hardware, the ATI 4830 is 10 tiers above the nVidia 7600 GT: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card,2118-7.html
I'd like to ask if BeQuiet has made a dramatic change in their quality in the recent past? At least it has done well in tests here at Bit-Tech.
I'm asking this because I work in a computer store and assemble about 5 computers a day and frankly, BeQuiet would be the dead last PSU I'd pick up for myself. Well maybe second to last, since most Xilence branded PSUs seem to be dead in the water, so BeQuiet would go before them :)
And to further explain myself, BeQuiet seems to work quite well when new and it's quite good looking and well thought package all in all. Well at least the modular ones are, not too fond of the non-modular design with their ridiculously long wires, which are a PITA to hide in a case since usually you don't need most of them.
So the problems are rare when the unit is new, but BeQuiet seems to hold the questionable number one place in our guarantee department. Of all the PSUs we sell, they break the most. We send about three big boxes full of broken BeQuiet units a month back to the factory.
This is not to bash on BeQuiet, since I know that they were a good PSU manufacturer once and I believe that they can make good quality PSUs, but damn, that's a lot of broken units and the trust is long gone at least for me.
How do you guys feel about this. Also a comment from the Bit-Tech staff could be nice to hear.
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