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Corsair Carbide Series Air 240 Review

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Anfield 15th August 2014, 15:55 Quote
The Want is strong with this one, although I'll prob go for the white one.
Woodspoon 15th August 2014, 17:08 Quote
That is a nice looking case
AlphaAngel 15th August 2014, 17:58 Quote
Nice review but I am more excited about the 380t, any chance of a preview/review soon?
Combatus 15th August 2014, 20:09 Quote
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Originally Posted by AlphaAngel
Nice review but I am more excited about the 380t, any chance of a preview/review soon?
Maybe ;)
MiNiMaL_FuSS 16th August 2014, 09:49 Quote
I think it's as ugly as hell the "traditional" way up, but I'd like to see what happens to the thermals if you flip it so that the window is on top, I think it looks much nicer like that!
Anfield 16th August 2014, 10:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by MiNiMaL_FuSS
I think it's as ugly as hell the "traditional" way up, but I'd like to see what happens to the thermals if you flip it so that the window is on top, I think it looks much nicer like that!

That leads to just one problem, the front usb ports end up at the bottom, so its only an option if you place the case on top of something.

http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/~/media/E4CD760D731E4F78A38FE5E4A31B5007.ashx?w=600

Pic from the Corsair site.
Omnituens 16th August 2014, 12:40 Quote
I must say this is an interesting case, but with a half height rad+fans in the front what is the absolute max length of card you can have? Could you fit narrower fans to gain space (or do the half-height rads come with those already)?
Anfield 16th August 2014, 15:42 Quote
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Originally Posted by Omnituens
but with a half height rad+fans in the front what is the absolute max length of card you can have?

It says 290mm max graphicscard length in both the review and on corsair site, however neither of them mention if that 290mm is measured when there are fans in the front or not.

So you have to assume the worst case, which means with a fan in the front you loose 25mm reducing the max length for the graphicscard to 265mm.
Then you loose 38mm for a rad.

So its 227mm max.

Meaning the Asus GTX760-DC2-2GD5 (not to be confused with other Asus GTX760 Cards) is the highest end Gpu that can be fitted if you want a 240 rad in the front. Luckily you can fit two of them (if you use a matx board) which leaves you with enough performance to run recent games at resolutions slightly above 1080p.
Spreadie 16th August 2014, 19:14 Quote
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Originally Posted by Anfield
It says 290mm max graphicscard length in both the review and on corsair site, however neither of them mention if that 290mm is measured when there are fans in the front or not.

So you have to assume the worst case, which means with a fan in the front you loose 25mm reducing the max length for the graphicscard to 265mm.
Then you loose 38mm for a rad.

So its 227mm max.

Meaning the Asus GTX760-DC2-2GD5 (not to be confused with other Asus GTX760 Cards) is the highest end Gpu that can be fitted if you want a 240 rad in the front. Luckily you can fit two of them (if you use a matx board) which leaves you with enough performance to run recent games at resolutions slightly above 1080p.

Did you go to the Corsair site?

Did you look at the gallery for the Air 240?

Didn't spot the GTX 780 installed alongside a H100i with push/pull fans, which still had around 15mm-20mm clearance?
jrs77 16th August 2014, 19:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by Anfield
That leads to just one problem, the front usb ports end up at the bottom, so its only an option if you place the case on top of something.

Pic from the Corsair site.

You don't put PC-cases on the floor anyways, but on the desk where they don't draw as much dust. On the desk tho, the USB-connections would be placed perfectly fine.

Anyways...

The case looks interesting, but on second thought you find yourself struggling with installing a good watercooling-solution, i.e. 2x 240mm rads. Less isn't really sufficient for dissipating some 500 Watt of heat (2x GPU + 1x CPU).

They could've designed the chamber with the PSU differently, so that there's space for a second 240mm rad for example, or they could've made the case a little taller to fit a second 240mm rad under the roof.

I don't get why case-manufacturers never get these things right.
Anfield 16th August 2014, 19:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by Spreadie
Did you go to the Corsair site?

Didn't spot the GTX 780 installed alongside a H100i with push/pull fans, which still had around 15mm-20mm clearance?

Of course I did go to the Corsair website.

However as I said, it is not declared if there was anything installed in the front when the 290mm max graphicscard length was measured.

If you deduct the 2 x 25mm for push pull fans and the 27mm rad thickness (based on the extra slim rad of the H100i) from the 290mm max graphicscard length you'll find there is no room for a 780ti (based on reference design or bigger).

A 780ti is 263mm long according to the MSI Website: http://uk.msi.com/product/vga/GTX_780Ti_3GD5.html#hero-specification
Spreadie 16th August 2014, 19:56 Quote
Why are you deducting from the 290mm? I get that it doesn't state if the max length accounts for a rad and fan width, but it clearly does accommodate cards of that length - the reference versions of the 780, the 780Ti and the Titan are all the same length - 267mm

Add 50mm for the two fans in that pic, and 27mm for the H100i rad, plus (let's be conservative) 10mm clearance in that pic. Thats 354mm.

Knock off 25mm for a fan and 38mm for a thicker rad and you're left with a maximum of 291mm.
jrs77 16th August 2014, 20:05 Quote
Why all the fuss there?

The case is 397mm deep, and the GPU starts directly at the metal of the backside, so a 290mm long card would still leave 100mm to the front.

We don't need to look at pictures to know if a 290mm long card will fit while there's a rad with push-pull installed, we can directly answer this question by simply looking at the measurments of the case.
Spreadie 16th August 2014, 20:23 Quote
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Why all the fuss there?
What fuss? It's a discussion forum, and I believe we were discussing something.

But thanks for stepping in to resolve the "fuss that never was" :p
Combatus 16th August 2014, 20:23 Quote
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You don't put PC-cases on the floor anyways, but on the desk where they don't draw as much dust. On the desk tho, the USB-connections would be placed perfectly fine.

True but mine's always been on the floor - more desk space and less noise :D
Combatus 16th August 2014, 20:34 Quote
On a side note, I've just built a water-cooling system into this case based around a mini-ITX motherboard. I've got an XSPC RX240 rad in the front with two fans and a second rad - single 120mm in the second compartment exhausting out the side panel in front of the PSU. Laing DDC with pump top res in the windowed chamber behind the radiator and I'm water-cooling the CPU and GPU. Not bad for such a small case.

Main issues are the width of the windowed chamber - leaves very little room for barbs on the edge of a GPU waterblock. In fact, I had to remove the angled EK bridge from my 660 Ti waterblock as it wouldn't fit. Also, my pump+top res is quite tall and mounting this in front of the rad means you're resigned to short PCB cards only (Nvidia 650, 660, 750, 760 for example). If anyone has any specific measurement/fitment requests drop me a line!
Anfield 16th August 2014, 21:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by Spreadie
Why are you deducting from the 290mm? I get that it doesn't state if the max length accounts for a rad and fan width,

Ahh, so you did actually understand what I posted, yes that was precisely the reason why I deducted it, too many case manufacturers make fake claims about rad compability, so I'm always on the side of caution.
Happy I was wrong in this case (excuse the pun), cause that means my old long graphicscard will fit when overclockers eventually get around to shipping my case at the end of sept lol.
jrs77 16th August 2014, 22:09 Quote
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True but mine's always been on the floor - more desk space and less noise :D

I've actually found the perfect place for my PC housed in a Define Mini... it sits behind the 24" TFT on my desk and isn't even visible this way, as there's speakers left and right to the TFT aswell. But then, I've a rather deep desk (90 cm), leaving ample of space infront of the TFT.
Combatus 17th August 2014, 12:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by jrs77
I've actually found the perfect place for my PC housed in a Define Mini... it sits behind the 24" TFT on my desk and isn't even visible this way, as there's speakers left and right to the TFT aswell. But then, I've a rather deep desk (90 cm), leaving ample of space infront of the TFT.

Ah cunning. I've got a shelf/hutch thing unfortunately otherwise I'd have tried that! Wow you desk is super-deep! Just measured mine and it's about 80cm, minus the hutch!
abezors 19th August 2014, 11:25 Quote
It was a toss-up between the Air 240 and the Fractal Node 804 - I went for the latter in the end, simply because it looks less "gamer case" and a little bit more understated. Plus a brushed metal vs ribbed plastic front panel.
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