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Intel Core i5-4670K (Haswell) CPU Review

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Baz 12th June 2013, 11:45 Quote
In short, got Sandybridge/Ivybridge? You're good.
Spreadie 12th June 2013, 12:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by Baz
In short, got Sandybridge/Ivybridge? You're good.
Yep.

Some clock for clock performance and power efficiency improvements, but not a compelling upgrade.
Corky42 12th June 2013, 12:05 Quote
Especially as there is yet another socket change, i just don't get why LGA 1150 has replaced LGA 1155.
I mean would it have been to much to ask to just have 5 spare pins ?

Wait for Skylake is what i say, at least then it make buying a new MoBo worth while with DDR4
Kralnor 12th June 2013, 12:10 Quote
I think you mean Core i5, not Core i7 :)
GuilleAcoustic 12th June 2013, 12:15 Quote
Think I'm sticking with my Q6600 and wait for DDR4 to be released and used. I'd better buy an SSD than changing the whole thing (I do not game).
Combatus 12th June 2013, 12:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by Kralnor
I think you mean Core i5, not Core i7 :)

Thanks - just edited those!
runadumb 12th June 2013, 12:25 Quote
Yip, I'm fairly certain I will be buying one of these soon.
Otis1337 12th June 2013, 12:57 Quote
if i was in the market even with the thermal problems i would not boost it over 4.4Ghz as i dont like to change the voltage much at all anyway...
nathan 12th June 2013, 13:28 Quote
first paragraph
"you're options"
Siwini 12th June 2013, 16:48 Quote
What about power consumption? Intel said Haswell will draw 50% less power than Ivy Bridge... Now is that true, if so this might be a good thing for a small-medium home servers.

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/156739-intel-haswell-will-draw-50-less-power-than-ivy-bridge
wafflesomd 12th June 2013, 17:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by GuilleAcoustic
Think I'm sticking with my Q6600 and wait for DDR4 to be released and used. I'd better buy an SSD than changing the whole thing (I do not game).

Same. Still haven't found a need to upgrade form my q6600.
Corky42 12th June 2013, 17:19 Quote
Power draw is very dependent on what version of chip obviously, but i think Haswell draws around the same as previous chips when under load, give or take.
Where it does save power though is when idle.
Harlequin 12th June 2013, 17:25 Quote
2 observations:

1 when will you update your 6 year old benchmark suite?

2 - will you stuff it in a case (intel approved build with no case fans) and retest to see just how hot it really gets in the real world.

thanks ;)
rayson 12th June 2013, 17:56 Quote
jesus i going to get the amd fx6300 . it is half the price. really don't want to get amd since no micro-atx or mini-itx board but hell Intel you going to price your cpu's so high then..
Salty Wagyu 12th June 2013, 19:12 Quote
Worth upgrading from an OC'd i5-750 3.4GHz? I guess I can wait another generation if not, the Geforce 670 keeps me going ok for now, just have to turn Level of Detail down to medium sometimes in games as that's CPU intensive (Tomb Raider for e.g.)
Andersen 12th June 2013, 20:00 Quote
So glad I went for Ivy Bridge.
Elton 12th June 2013, 21:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by Salty Wagyu
Worth upgrading from an OC'd i5-750 3.4GHz? I guess I can wait another generation if not, the Geforce 670 keeps me going ok for now, just have to turn Level of Detail down to medium sometimes in games as that's CPU intensive (Tomb Raider for e.g.)

Turn the details on high. And increase the res. It might help. That said, you can push the 750 much higher than 3.4. I hit 3.6 on the stock cooler rather easily.

As for this processor. I have Sandy Bridge at 4.3. I have no impetus to upgrade for a few FPS.
Yslen 12th June 2013, 22:34 Quote
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Originally Posted by rayson
jesus i going to get the amd fx6300 . it is half the price. really don't want to get amd since no micro-atx or mini-itx board but hell Intel you going to price your cpu's so high then..

Depending on your usage, you might run into issues. The 6300 is literally half the performance in some areas, part of the reason it's half the price. The minimum Skyrim framerates on the (faster) 8350 aren't exactly compelling next to the old 2500k.

I agree though, Intel's pricing is getting silly, they're just releasing each new generation at a higher price because they're getting no competition.

Your best bet might be to pick up SB or IB kit (with mini-ITX maybe) on the forum marketplace.
Bindibadgi 13th June 2013, 03:59 Quote
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Originally Posted by GuilleAcoustic
Think I'm sticking with my Q6600 and wait for DDR4 to be released and used. I'd better buy an SSD than changing the whole thing (I do not game).

DDR4 is not likely to become a desktop product as JEDEC has only certified it for ECC server only so far. We're as likely to see GDDR5 for desktops as DDR4 right now.
fluxtatic 13th June 2013, 08:26 Quote
Not sure what Intel or AMD could do to make it better, but this is why the PC market is starting its downward slide - how often over the last three generations have you seen something to the effect of "meh, my Core 2 is still competitive enough"?

For me, as an AMD sort, I'm not feeling a big urge to dump my Phenom II X3 - OC'd to 3.2, it feels snappy enough for most anything I use it for. It seems to crunch through massive Excel spreadsheets a bit faster than the first-gen Core i3 I have at work.

Next will likely be a VGA upgrade - my GTS450's a bit long in the tooth. By the time I'm really itching to upgrade my processor, Steamroller will likely be out and it will be time for an entire platform upgrade.
Corky42 13th June 2013, 09:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
DDR4 is not likely to become a desktop product as JEDEC has only certified it for ECC server only so far. We're as likely to see GDDR5 for desktops as DDR4 right now.

Yea because server hardware never makes the transition to desktops does it
You best tell these guys that they are wasting there time, other wise they are going to be wasting a lot of money :)

http://www.crucial.com/promo/DDR4.aspx
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If you thought the tablets, ultrabooks, and desktops of today already seem fast — get ready to be blown away.

And you best get some emails of to the rest of the world as it seems they are all about to make a terrible mistake.
http://flyingsuicide.net/articles/what-ddr4-will-mean-to-the-desktop-user/
Bindibadgi 13th June 2013, 09:55 Quote
Well I'd rather believe my wife who actually works in the memory industry, but there we go :) Things can change I suppose.
Elton 13th June 2013, 10:00 Quote
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Originally Posted by Corky42
Yea because server hardware never makes the transition to desktops does it
You best tell these guys that they are wasting there time, other wise they are going to be wasting a lot of money :)

http://www.crucial.com/promo/DDR4.aspx


And you best get some emails of to the rest of the world as it seems they are all about to make a terrible mistake.
http://flyingsuicide.net/articles/what-ddr4-will-mean-to-the-desktop-user/

Funny how your article mentions the release date to be around 2014-2015. So Bindi's pretty right then.

Just pointing it out. :D ;)
Corky42 13th June 2013, 10:37 Quote
Well if you want to say a release date of 2014-15 is as Bindi said, that its not coming to the desktop.
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
DDR4 is not likely to become a desktop product as JEDEC has only certified it for ECC server only so far. We're as likely to see GDDR5 for desktops as DDR4 right now.
I'm not sure how something rumored to be supported with Skylake, also expected in 2014-15 is something
"not likely to become a desktop product" :?
ZeDestructor 13th June 2013, 16:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by Spreadie
Yep.

Some clock for clock performance and power efficiency improvements, but not a compelling upgrade.

Intel is going for the ultrathin/tablet market, because that's where the big money is. As much as I don't like it, that's the reality of today's market. Soon we'll be back to using top-end xeons in our desktop builds as the mainstream desktop die sin favour of laptops....
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Originally Posted by Corky42
Especially as there is yet another socket change, i just don't get why LGA 1150 has replaced LGA 1155.
I mean would it have been to much to ask to just have 5 spare pins ?

Wait for Skylake is what i say, at least then it make buying a new MoBo worth while with DDR4

Haswell moves the VRM into the CPU. It needs a whole new motherboard layout and power delivery circuit as a result. Might as well change socket to "simplify" consumers lives, since you need a new motherboard anyways.
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Originally Posted by GuilleAcoustic
Think I'm sticking with my Q6600 and wait for DDR4 to be released and used. I'd better buy an SSD than changing the whole thing (I do not game).

If you have a high-end, current-gen GPU, you'll be seeing your CPU limiting things in games, but then again, you don't game, so all is well for you.
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Originally Posted by fluxtatic
Not sure what Intel or AMD could do to make it better, but this is why the PC market is starting its downward slide - how often over the last three generations have you seen something to the effect of "meh, my Core 2 is still competitive enough"?

For me, as an AMD sort, I'm not feeling a big urge to dump my Phenom II X3 - OC'd to 3.2, it feels snappy enough for most anything I use it for. It seems to crunch through massive Excel spreadsheets a bit faster than the first-gen Core i3 I have at work.

Next will likely be a VGA upgrade - my GTS450's a bit long in the tooth. By the time I'm really itching to upgrade my processor, Steamroller will likely be out and it will be time for an entire platform upgrade.

As I said above, its not your limiting factor as of now. And even if you don't need/want to upgrade, others do.

For instance, my Penryn Core 2 Duo Latitude is visibly slower than my much newer dual-core Sandy Bridge X220 Tablet. I don't see it when using it for office or web browsing, but start compiling stuff or building bitfiles for FPGAs in Xilinx ISE and suddenly the difference is visible without even breaking out the stopwatches.
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