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Intel Core i7-4770K (Haswell) CPU Review

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andrew8200m 1st June 2013, 16:03 Quote
NDA lifts at midnight tonight.

Are Intel aware of this?
Combatus 1st June 2013, 16:08 Quote
June 1st 7am PT (3pm BST) for Quad core parts
andrew8200m 1st June 2013, 16:19 Quote
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Originally Posted by Combatus
June 1st 7am PT (3pm BST) for Quad core parts

Ah that's ok then. A certain smaller etailer caused big problems the other day. A little like they always do to be honest and I wouldnt like to see one of my favourite review sites finding issues of their own with intel that's all :)
Combatus 1st June 2013, 16:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by andrew8200m
Ah that's ok then. A certain smaller etailer caused big problems the other day. A little like they always do to be honest and I wouldnt like to see one of my favourite review sites finding issues of their own with intel that's all :)


I can guess who! Intel's been very strict with it this year so they'll likely find it pretty difficult going from here on in with Intel!

Anyway, thanks for giving me a heart attack thinking I'd mis-read the NDA time :D
Stanley Tweedle 1st June 2013, 16:35 Quote
Heat. Muchos heat. Still happy with sandy balls.
Stanley Tweedle 1st June 2013, 16:35 Quote
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Heat. Muchos heat. Still happy with sandy balls.


Anyone notice the daily connectivity isssues at Bit tech now?

http://imageshack.us/a/img109/2614/01062013153736.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img853/3584/01062013154240.jpg
Xir 1st June 2013, 16:51 Quote
Yes, the forum overloaded on me too a bit earlier on.
Gtek 1st June 2013, 17:02 Quote
Will all 'R' cpus be BGA?
Apocalypso 1st June 2013, 17:05 Quote
Looks like I'm sticking with my 2500k for a little while longer.

Sandy Balls is lovely this time of year.
Kralnor 1st June 2013, 17:07 Quote
damien c 1st June 2013, 18:19 Quote
I was expecting the same heat issues, after seeing some of the early leaked reviews.

Guess I did the right thing the other month in upgrading to SB-E rather than waiting for Heatwell.
m0ngy 1st June 2013, 18:24 Quote
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The image linked on the last page of the review gives a 404 :)

LOL, Bit-tech's appalling writing and editing is hilarious. Seriously kids, don't smoke weed when you're attempting to publish online content.

Page 1: "such as the move from LGA1156 to LGA1156 for Sandy Bridge"
"as we saw from moving from Westmere to Sandy Bridge." *clap, clap* Well written... lol.

Page 1: "As-per-usual the price of LGA1155 gear is likely to fall as its upgrade path ends so there may be some bargains to be had if you choose wisely, though frankly we'd imagine you have to be pretty lucky to find a bargain that really makes it worth buying new Ivy Bridge kit." My God, what a mouthful!

Page 2: "While there are plenty of numbers floating around as to how much faster the new IGP will be, Intel hasn’t released information regarding the number of execution units they will offer yet, so the only real indicator as to just how much faster they are will be benchmarks." How about, "Intel hasn’t released information regarding the number of execution units, so benchmarks will be the only real indicator as to improved performance."

Page 2: "Intel admits that there have been no significant changes to the key pipelines. Instead, the benefits are akin to efficiency improvements and increasing bandwidth." How about, "There are no significant changes to the key pipelines, though efficiency has been improved and bandwidth increased."

Are you serious? Is someone proof reading this drivel? I couldn't be bothered editing the rest for you. Someone at the office needs to get their arse into gear else be sacked, because your articles read like a semi-literate high schooler's dog chewed homework.
SuicideNeil 1st June 2013, 18:46 Quote
It's called padding- we all used to do it at school, to make our essays longer and seem more impressive/substantive. Of course, the teachers would usually spot it and write notes in red saying 'less waffle please'.

/Irony.

I too will be sticking with my 2500k for the foreseeable future- no real reason to upgrade for what I do...
fdbh96 1st June 2013, 18:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by Gtek
Will all 'R' cpus be BGA?

All the CPUs with the better iGPU will be BGA. Tomshardware.com has more info in their review on it.
SchizoFrog 1st June 2013, 19:10 Quote
@m0ngy

You actually read the articles? I don't read any of it apart from the conclusions, unless something particular piques my interest and I want it explained, such as a new technology development. I usually look at the facts and figures of the charts and images and then read the conclusion which sums up the rest. Most of the text that isn't actually explaining something technological is personal opinion, something I have no interest in.

That is my choice however, I can choose to read what I want. Your example of a teacher is a good point though but you need to remember that the vast majority of people are not 'teacher' level and would barely make adequate students. As such Bit-Tech has to accommodate for the lowest denominator and not the arrogant, self-appeasing readers such as yourself. If you really find the articles so bad, you don't have to read them at all.
Tynecider 1st June 2013, 19:11 Quote
I can confirm they are using thermal paste

EDIT: And I was told the lid was quite easy to pop off with a large fresh stanley blade.
The usual black glue has been used to fix the lid in place.
AlienwareAndy 1st June 2013, 19:18 Quote
lmao what a let down.
YEHBABY 1st June 2013, 19:23 Quote
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lmao what a let down.

Yeah, total disappointment.
andrew8200m 1st June 2013, 19:24 Quote
I went from X79 to this. Very happy with the results.

Less power use, no shift down in games and a good £1400 in my pocket extra.

Its a good chipset with a good speed bump for those on sandybridge.

What you have all got to understand is that the 2600ks etc were all at 5.0ghz in the review where as this is at 4.7ghz and faster still.

Most are running sandy at 4.8ghz as it was only relrease day that was 5ghz onm almost every chip. These are all 4.7ghz capable so with that in mind the gap will broaden. Also, haswell alows for much high memory speeds. The reviews "ok" but it doesnt reflect on what you actually get and what you actually get is around 15-20% boost over sandybridge if not more if you spend time to get the best out of both systems which ultimate means a good 700mhz extra out of the memory on haswell over SB.


You all call yourselves enthusiasts yet your all missing whats infront of you. Another reason why europeans come to the UK to work whilst many people in the UK are happy to say "I dont have a job, the government is helping outsiders and they are taking money from the country". Boils down to being lazy ultimately and not looking at the bigger picture or what perhaps is wrong and can be fixed. Another reason why the UK is doomed.
Combatus 1st June 2013, 19:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by m0ngy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kralnor
The image linked on the last page of the review gives a 404 :)

LOL, Bit-tech's appalling writing and editing is hilarious. Seriously kids, don't smoke weed when you're attempting to publish online content.

Page 1: "such as the move from LGA1156 to LGA1156 for Sandy Bridge"
"as we saw from moving from Westmere to Sandy Bridge." *clap, clap* Well written... lol.

Page 1: "As-per-usual the price of LGA1155 gear is likely to fall as its upgrade path ends so there may be some bargains to be had if you choose wisely, though frankly we'd imagine you have to be pretty lucky to find a bargain that really makes it worth buying new Ivy Bridge kit." My God, what a mouthful!

Page 2: "While there are plenty of numbers floating around as to how much faster the new IGP will be, Intel hasn’t released information regarding the number of execution units they will offer yet, so the only real indicator as to just how much faster they are will be benchmarks." How about, "Intel hasn’t released information regarding the number of execution units, so benchmarks will be the only real indicator as to improved performance."

Page 2: "Intel admits that there have been no significant changes to the key pipelines. Instead, the benefits are akin to efficiency improvements and increasing bandwidth." How about, "There are no significant changes to the key pipelines, though efficiency has been improved and bandwidth increased."

Are you serious? Is someone proof reading this drivel? I couldn't be bothered editing the rest for you. Someone at the office needs to get their arse into gear else be sacked, because your articles read like a semi-literate high schooler's dog chewed homework.

Unfortunately we had serious time pressure on this one with the samples arriving very late indeed from Intel. Coupled with the fact Harry's been working on the new GeForce launches, he and Ed are now in Taiwan for Computex and I've been on holiday for the last seven days (pre-booked before I even knew the NDA), meant I had a matter of hours to do several day's-worth of testing and write the review. Reading comments like this do feel like a kick in the teeth given the late nights spent getting any kind of article out in time - apologies if it's not up to scratch, we had our reasons, and we'll endeavour to do better in future!
GeorgeStorm 1st June 2013, 19:28 Quote
Not that impressed, doesn't make me want to upgrade in the slightest.

Will be interesting to see what happens with prices etc once more stuff comes out.
Xir 1st June 2013, 19:36 Quote
Well, as the i5-4670K is probably the more interesting one for us gamers, you'll get a chance to do another article, soon I hope ;-)
Andy M 1st June 2013, 20:56 Quote
Thank you for including the i7 920 in some of the tables. I guess I'm not the only one thinking about updating my system to one with a newer processor.
23RO_UK 1st June 2013, 21:06 Quote
And yet again I'll be sticking with my 2600K ;)
rollo 1st June 2013, 21:07 Quote
Nothing I've seen screams upgrade for what its worth. Would prefer to see a more mainstream intel 6 core CPU with a price that's more attainable.

Sandy to haswell would be a good way to waste cash in brutal honesty. Unless you use a program that benifits from it. ( if you do x79 is still likely quicker and has been out for ages)

Till the software we use starts to benifit from the multi thread multi core technology that's out there every review of CPU tech is going to be meh.

Hyperthreading has been out years yet the amount of program's that can use it are not alot.( ignoring all benchmarks talking about actual program's that are used to do **** with benching is a tool)

The amount of program's that can even use 4 cores is small, take that to 6 cores and the list is tiny.

CPU tech has gone way passed most needs even hardcore pc gamers would be hard pressed if you ran this CPU an i7920 and a sandy 2500k in bf3 as the game does not use the CPU power available. You would probably be able to run it at the same settings on each system assuming the same Gpu.

Anandtech has a Gpu bench for civ 5 ( one of the more CPU heavy benches) between top and c2d is around 30fps. In the next game they tested the difference was 5 FPS between top and bottom.
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