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Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 3GB Review

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MjFrosty 23rd May 2013, 15:50 Quote
Well if you go by the 7970 it just seems a little half way house compared with the Titan. Do it properly or don't bother and save the pounds.
Harlequin 23rd May 2013, 16:16 Quote
20% improvement for 85% increased cost isn't 1/2 ahalf way house
Maki role 23rd May 2013, 16:24 Quote
As nice as it would be to have gone for 3/4 of these instead of two Titans, the massive VRAM stack is simply too important to my uses. Bit of a shame but at least I can't sit back and think I made the wrong choice, unlike if the 780 had been released with the rumoured 5GB instead.
Shirty 23rd May 2013, 16:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by Harlequin
20% improvement for 85% increased cost isn't 1/2 ahalf way house

This, I'm afraid. I love Nvidia and AMD equally but even with "new card pricing syndrome" this costs too much for the performance gained.

Of course the high end folks'll buy them - but for almost everyone else it's nonsense for the time being.
Waynio 23rd May 2013, 16:29 Quote
I remember when I bought my first true high end GPU at £300 & thinking ouch, virtually double ouch now but about 200x or more better performance & considering how many have been buying Titans these 780s will still sell well.

Still though, 2.5 more years for me & then I'll upgrade so I feel like I had an awesome upgrade, incremental upgrades are only really noticeable in benchmarks or system killing games. :D

Only thing that might convince me to upgrade sooner from 2 670s is if console ports need 4GB VRAM to run max eye candy.
total zombie 23rd May 2013, 16:41 Quote
i hope the give us more affordable cards soon, ive been saving for a new one but this is way over my budget, oh well:(
Harlequin 23rd May 2013, 17:37 Quote
no compute with the GTX 780 - the DP is similar to a GTX 580 and way way down on a 7970. no folding on these then
Zurechial 23rd May 2013, 17:42 Quote
I'm planning a new build for when Haswell is released; going from an i7 920 with C0 stepping that takes 1.51v for stability at 4GHz to something high-end in the Haswell range; so that'll be a huge upgrade in every regard already - But now I'm tempted to replace my GTX580 with a GTX780 as well for that full, fresh-build feeling.

That price, though; ouch.
For that kind of money, the fear of it being superceded after a short while is much higher; especially with all the hype around the new console generation.
SchizoFrog 23rd May 2013, 18:45 Quote
As stated within the article, as there are no silicone or architecture changes the 7xxx series will be for those who just need the latest GPU regardless of what is actually being offered. If a new GPU is definitely needed though (such as a replacement) then I would look to see if I could get a 6xxx GPU for less than they are now. Otherwise I would wait to see what next year brings with the 8xxx series generation, especially as there may be a few small code additions from the new console hardware.
kosch 23rd May 2013, 18:51 Quote
Think I'll be sticking with my GTX 580 Lightning for the time being, might even be tempted to try and SLI that sucker.
maverik-sg1 23rd May 2013, 20:17 Quote
Priced £100 too high, I don't need one (my GTX570 runs all I play okay)....but I want one, just can't justify the cost and because the next gen cards are due in 5months-ish time, I fear for the longevity of such a high investment.

I doubt AMD will release anything to oust this or Titan until their next gen cards are released....sadly this will mean the immediate pricing structure could be here to stay.
mystvearn 23rd May 2013, 20:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by rollo
£550 compared to Titan prices is cheap enough very expensive compared to other cards. There's been rumours for months that the 28nm process was more expensive than most had relised so prices where expected to rise some. £420 to £550 is not entirely unexpected or if I'm honest that unreasonable.

Considering most are likely waiting for the 770 which should be priced alot lower than this card is at the moment.

In all honesty graphics cards have not really moved in price in years despite the costs going up, nvidia are first out of the door with the new Gpu series, AMD will be lucky to get a 2013 release if I was nvidia I'd be doing what they are now myself.

I don't intend to upgrade myself due to lack of space for multi monitor setup so will be holding off but those On a 580 would see a good 60-70% performance boost single card.

Prices will come down. Either that, or I'll stalk the marketplace forum for some "hand-me-downs" :D I'm guessing there will be good 680 bargains in the near future.

Honestly, I actually don't think I will game on a monitor with a resolution higher than 1080p despite the screen size. TV's are stuck at 1080p currently (4k some time into the future) and for pc gaming, I think a 23" pc screen is good enough for most pc users playing at their desk. Any higher than that, might as well get a proper TV and sit at the couch.

I think the better solution is to wait for the lowest TDP card of this series. Then I can make a steam-box on stock cooling and not worry about heat or noise
Snips 23rd May 2013, 22:16 Quote
Why do some seem intent on comparing the ATi dual card to this single card? You have an ATi card, we get it, now move on!
jimmyjj 23rd May 2013, 23:53 Quote
Far too far out of my league price wise.

Looking forward to the GTX 770 review,
ssj12 24th May 2013, 03:42 Quote
Price is really high, but I wonder if they are hoping enough sells to make back some money then drop the price of the Titan and every card in the 7xx series.
Spreadie 24th May 2013, 08:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by jimmyjj
Far too far out of my league price wise.

Looking forward to the GTX 770 review,
I'm not expecting any favours for nvidia with the 770.

Given the price of the 780, the 770 is likely to be £400+ and a smidge faster than a superclocked 680.
Harlequin 24th May 2013, 08:34 Quote
I actually see it being slower than a superclocked gtx 680 tbh
toolio20 24th May 2013, 09:20 Quote
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Originally Posted by ssj12
Price is really high, but I wonder if they are hoping enough sells to make back some money then drop the price of the Titan and every card in the 7xx series.

HAHAHAHAwhat? Nvidia does not lower prices, at least until idiots quit buying their overpriced products.

And yes - I'm calling anyone who would buy this card for 550 quidditch (over $800 in real money!) an idiot. Not because they're buying a specific brand but rather for their refusal to understand the concepts of "value" and/or "overclocking."

Their software is still better than AMD's (though that gap is actually closing) but other than that - oh, and PhysX, the biggest game-changing technology since Power over ESATA and Microsoft BOB...
GravitySmacked 24th May 2013, 09:51 Quote
The only idiot is the person insulting others for not having the same opinion as him.
Shirty 24th May 2013, 09:57 Quote
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Originally Posted by toolio20
HAHAHAHAwhat? Nvidia does not lower prices, at least until idiots quit buying their overpriced products.

And yes - I'm calling anyone who would buy this card for 550 quidditch (over $800 in real money!) an idiot. Not because they're buying a specific brand but rather for their refusal to understand the concepts of "value" and/or "overclocking."

Their software is still better than AMD's (though that gap is actually closing) but other than that - oh, and PhysX, the biggest game-changing technology since Power over ESATA and Microsoft BOB...

Whilst I can't help agree with your sentiment (being financially challenged myself), the Titans and 780s of this world represent the best single card performance money can buy - so for those perfectionists for whom money is less of an issue they represent the only options.

When you buy a £30k German saloon you aren't getting twice as much car as you would buying a £15k French one, but it'll be a bit quicker. I don't drive a £30k German saloon and nor can I afford a top-end GPU - but if I could I would own both ;)
Spreadie 24th May 2013, 10:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by GravitySmacked
The only idiot is the person insulting others for not having the same opinion as him.
+1
DbD 24th May 2013, 10:30 Quote
£550 is too much to be considered a normal high end card - it goes in the stupidly expensive pot for people with more money then sense.

Hence this generation brings nothing - the GTX 770 is just a GTX 680 and will cost about the same so effectively the GTX 680 is still the high end card, competing with 7970 - nothing has changed.
Shirty 24th May 2013, 10:55 Quote
The 8800 Ultra cost around £475 at launch and was promptly reduced to £440. Therefore it wouldn't surprise me if we see cards under £500 in the not too distant future...
Spreadie 24th May 2013, 11:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by Shirty
The 8800 Ultra cost around £475 at launch and was promptly reduced to £440. Therefore it wouldn't surprise me if we see cards under £500 in the not too distant future...
I'm not so sure, Nick.

The 680 has dropped about £50 in 14 months, and my EVGA 670 model has dropped a whole £5 in price since I bought it in August!
rollo 24th May 2013, 11:38 Quote
Graphics cards are a luxury product nvidia can charge what they want for them as it has no rival before the end the year in single Gpu graphics performance. Not like anyone must have a graphics card.

As for a 780 price reduction you can dream as last i checked most uk sellers are already sold out.
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