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The SSD Catch-up

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Tattysnuc 8th January 2013, 10:38 Quote
Nice to see the newer models here, but I'd like to see the force3 series included please....
Baz 8th January 2013, 10:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by Tattysnuc
Nice to see the newer models here, but I'd like to see the force3 series included please....

Its a Sandforce 2281 controller - simply use the Vertex 3 results.

Same applies for Kingston HyperX, and the large number of sandforce partner drives. They all run the same, Sandforce supplied firmware.
proxess 8th January 2013, 10:44 Quote
More catch-up posts on more devices more frequently, please!
I oft come to Bit when I'm deciding what hardware to buy, but it can get difficult to figure out what's good or not comparatively to other bits of hardware previously released.
Baz 8th January 2013, 10:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by proxess
More catch-up posts on more devices more frequently, please!
I oft come to Bit when I'm deciding what hardware to buy, but it can get difficult to figure out what's good or not comparatively to other bits of hardware previously released.

Will do! Due to time constraints, we weren't able to look at these drivers on their individual launches; hopefully bundling them all together will allow for easier comparisons.
Harlequin 8th January 2013, 11:00 Quote
nice to see `regular` use going over sata 2 speeds (4k 16QD and above) - been a few years though :(


if I was to make a request - It would be to compare the Plextor M5 PRO with the new marvell 9187 controller ; as IMO its of `this` generation rather than the 830/vertex3/crucial M4 ones.
Krikkit 8th January 2013, 11:05 Quote
Great roundup, thanks guys! Not sure which one I'd go for out of that lot, the limited write-life of the 840 non-Pro does give me pause though, as I tend to keep my drives forever.
Tangster 8th January 2013, 11:24 Quote
Glad to see my M4 isn't antiquated yet.
phinix 8th January 2013, 11:30 Quote
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Originally Posted by Krikkit
Great roundup, thanks guys! Not sure which one I'd go for out of that lot, the limited write-life of the 840 non-Pro does give me pause though, as I tend to keep my drives forever.

So PRO version look like better options then. On the other hand I wonder how long would they survive in ours home-users environments..
SchizoFrog 8th January 2013, 11:32 Quote
Thanks very much for this... Much appreciated.

I did notice an error, on the graphs the 840 250GB is referred to as 840 256GB.
rollo 8th January 2013, 12:02 Quote
where is intels drivers and there custom sandforce drivers would be nice to see how they perform vs the others.
Baz 8th January 2013, 12:12 Quote
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Originally Posted by Tangster
Glad to see my M4 isn't antiquated yet.

Far from it. it's aged remarkably well considering its been on sale so long. Crucial and Micron clearly know what it's doing, and don't look to be in any hurry to replace it. I think a TLC version will be on the cards though.
r3loaded 8th January 2013, 13:21 Quote
Wow the 840 Pro and the Vector are incredibly close. Even in terms of price, there's only 3 quid between them!
fingerbob69 8th January 2013, 14:17 Quote
Cache-ing SSDs ...have BT looked at them ...are you gonna look at them?

Any opinions?
Baz 8th January 2013, 15:00 Quote
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Originally Posted by fingerbob69
Cache-ing SSDs ...have BT looked at them ...are you gonna look at them?

Any opinions?

2 years ago, they'd have been worth it, but now cost per GB has come down so much, what's the point? 256GB SSDs are less than £150. Hybrid HDDs typically just end up caching Windows files, so you dont get the benefit of game loads etc, just fast boot times.
Xir 8th January 2013, 15:02 Quote
the Samsung 840 (non Pro) doesn't really distance itself from the 830 does it?
At least at the 128GB level there's the price difference to consider.
warriorpoet 8th January 2013, 15:45 Quote
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Originally Posted by Tattysnuc
Nice to see the newer models here, but I'd like to see the force3 series included please....
The Force 3 is comparable to OCZ's Agility 3, and not in the same tier as the reviewed drives. Corsair Force GT/GS performance is in the same class as the Neutron GTX with markedly different strengths/ weaknesses, but are an inferior price/ performance/ reliability proposition at this point.

If you want to compare SSDs, anandtech provides a useful tool here.

For more interesting SSD reading, see here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6489/playing-with-op

According to the latest TechReport podcast, Samsung is correcting dirty drive performance issues in the next firmware revision. It's apparently due to a new TRIM/ garbage collection algorithm that doesn't function as expected.
Adnoctum 8th January 2013, 22:59 Quote
I'll never buy an OCZ SSD ever again, even if they can make it back to acceptable levels of QA.

Cheap can never make up for appalling quality and the time lost trying to get it to work, returning the defective product, purchasing the brand you should have the first time, and installing the replacement. Why bother when OCZ is little cheaper than the alternatives?
Corky42 9th January 2013, 00:27 Quote
@Adnoctum, never had a problem with my Vertex and always found they reply very quickly to problems on there forums. Always seem ok with issuing RMA if they think it maybe the drive.
I guess its like any company some people will always have bad experiences like i had once with Seagate.
KithKhan 9th January 2013, 00:56 Quote
@Adnoctum; I've had at least two of each OCZ ssd in a RAID0 array. Updating firmware was a pain with older models, but I've never had a problem with them besides that.

I know positive anecdotes don't prove anything, but I'm not sure there's any substantial basis to the perception that OCZ has a quality issue either.
Adnoctum 9th January 2013, 01:19 Quote
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Originally Posted by Corky42
@Adnoctum, never had a problem with my Vertex and always found they reply very quickly to problems on there forums. Always seem ok with issuing RMA if they think it maybe the drive.
I guess its like any company some people will always have bad experiences like i had once with Seagate.

My old 60G Vertex keeps on plodding. No complaints there.

It is their more recent efforts that have lost me as a customer. Appalling failure rates.
Apparently the cheap Petrol line has a 30-something % return rate, which is extraordinary, but all OCZ products have 3-4x the return rates of other SSD brands.

I don't care how wonderful the RMA process is if the product itself is unreliable. I haven't dealt with OCZ's return process, because I haven't used it. My failed OCZ product went back to place of purchase, and then the replacement went back to place of purchase, and then I put the replacement from another brand into my system. I should have gone Crucial from the start.
Pookeyhead 9th January 2013, 19:14 Quote
Arrgh... just not quite faster enough warrant a 820 > 840 pro upgrade. I'll convince Mrs Pook she needs a Samsung 830.. then give her mine.. then I'll have to buy one :)
MjFrosty 10th January 2013, 09:23 Quote
Just bought a pair of 840s to replace my aging / small Vertex 3s

\o/

From experience with OCZ, personally I wouldn't touch their latest offering with a barge pole, it might well be absolutely perfect at launch, but oh well. (5th times a charm and all that)
Si_the-dude 13th January 2013, 14:42 Quote
Thanks for the article dude, I'd been looking at getting the 840 over Christmas but just couldn't make up my mind on it. It was on sale for about £110 over Christmas - really wishing I'd picked one up now :(
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