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AMD Radeon 7970 3GB GHz Edition Review

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Harlequin 22nd June 2012, 12:14 Quote
said it before ;) - would like to see comparison of first gen DX11 - 5870 / gtx 480 so we can see just how much faster the high end has come :D
SchizoFrog 22nd June 2012, 12:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by Harlequin
said it before ;) - would like to see comparison of first gen DX11 - 5870 / gtx 480 so we can see just how much faster the high end has come :D

In that case they should do a High End, Mid Range and Low End comparison so we can see where the most improvements for performance and bang for buck have come.
Harlequin 22nd June 2012, 12:56 Quote
charts would be too big then - you want to look at high end to high end , mid to mid etc
Aracos 22nd June 2012, 13:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by Harlequin
said it before ;) - would like to see comparison of first gen DX11 - 5870 / gtx 480 so we can see just how much faster the high end has come :D

In that case they should do a High End, Mid Range and Low End comparison so we can see where the most improvements for performance and bang for buck have come.

They usually do that every now and then I think, as Baz (I think) said, it takes 2-3 hours to review each card so doing something like that could take days if not an entire week.

Quite a nice review and it is good to see AMD have something that can compete, it is just a shame it suffers from GTX480 syndrome by being more powerful at the expense of noise and heat.
Spreadie 22nd June 2012, 13:22 Quote
Harry, are we likely to see a GHz edition of the 7950 and/or other models?
Baz 22nd June 2012, 13:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by Spreadie
Harry, are we likely to see a GHz edition of the 7950 and/or other models?

No word from AMD; The quality GPUs all go into 7970s, so I'd guess no. When I OC'd the 7950 review samples, 1GHz was right on the edge without hefty over-volting.
mi1ez 22nd June 2012, 13:31 Quote
Would love to see if you can reflash the BIOS on the original 7970 or if there's some hardware flag.
maverik-sg1 22nd June 2012, 13:37 Quote
It's obviously interesting to see what an overclocked card will do, sadly what this means is that top quality GPU's will be selected for this card over standard 7970's, probably resulting in them no longer clocking as high as older versions because of it.

Seems to me, if you are going to buy a 7970 buy a standard one now, with an effective 3rd party cooler and then overclock it - seems to be chealer and equally as effective as this.

Just an observation - I remember how hard ( and rightly so imho) Bit-Tech/CPC came down on Nvidia like a ton of bricks for the 480 fermi. This 7970 3GB GHz Edition card is hot, loud and consumes more power than it's rivals/siblings, yet you fall short of expressing this in the same way as you did for the green team... consistency is a beautiful thing and conspicuous only by it's absence.
Spreadie 22nd June 2012, 14:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by maverik-sg1
This 7970 3GB GHz Edition card is hot, loud and consumes more power than it's rivals/siblings, yet you fall short of expressing this in the same way as you did for the green team... consistency is a beautiful thing and conspicuous only by it's absence.

Well, the review says it's louder than other cards and it does draw more power, but I can't see any reference to it being especially hot. It's identical to the 680 in the temperature charts.
bdigital 22nd June 2012, 14:12 Quote
Hmmm could be ideal for watercooling :) my 480 needs replacing in the next few months.
andrew8200m 22nd June 2012, 14:19 Quote
In other news...


AMD release none 1GHz edition at 75MHz less on the core (925MHz)... it overclocks to 1GHz... and performs the same!


Waits for Nvidia 1075Mhz GTX680 edition


*yawn*
Baz 22nd June 2012, 14:20 Quote
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Originally Posted by maverik-sg1
It's obviously interesting to see what an overclocked card will do, sadly what this means is that top quality GPU's will be selected for this card over standard 7970's, probably resulting in them no longer clocking as high as older versions because of it.

Seems to me, if you are going to buy a 7970 buy a standard one now, with an effective 3rd party cooler and then overclock it - seems to be chealer and equally as effective as this.

Just an observation - I remember how hard ( and rightly so imho) Bit-Tech/CPC came down on Nvidia like a ton of bricks for the 480 fermi. This 7970 3GB GHz Edition card is hot, loud and consumes more power than it's rivals/siblings, yet you fall short of expressing this in the same way as you did for the green team... consistency is a beautiful thing and conspicuous only by it's absence.

I knew this would come up! However

480 was; hotter, louder, 100W hungier, and £100 more

7970 GHz is no hotter, louder, 60W hungrier and £20 less

Hence, why we point out these issues, but don't ton of bricks it.
Action_Parsnip 22nd June 2012, 14:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by maverik-sg1
It's obviously interesting to see what an overclocked card will do, sadly what this means is that top quality GPU's will be selected for this card over standard 7970's, probably resulting in them no longer clocking as high as older versions because of it.

Seems to me, if you are going to buy a 7970 buy a standard one now, with an effective 3rd party cooler and then overclock it - seems to be chealer and equally as effective as this.

Just an observation - I remember how hard ( and rightly so imho) Bit-Tech/CPC came down on Nvidia like a ton of bricks for the 480 fermi. This 7970 3GB GHz Edition card is hot, loud and consumes more power than it's rivals/siblings, yet you fall short of expressing this in the same way as you did for the green team... consistency is a beautiful thing and conspicuous only by it's absence.

You forget the context of the time it arrives in. The 480 was highly anticipated, yet was pretty naff really all things being considered.

The 'new' 7970 isn't new, it's just part of a binning exercise, pure and simple, and shows temperature and power consumption behaivour inline with increasing voltages and operating frequencies whilst keeping the cooling hardware the same.
MjFrosty 22nd June 2012, 14:25 Quote
Seems it's the almost definite better option for multi monitor gaming. I was always a bit disappointed when Nvidia announced 2GB on the 6XX. Can't see AMD re-hashing their power consumption adverts now though. Tsk Tsk!.

Also worth remembering the 480 although a bit of a miniature sun, was significantly faster than AMD's card at the time.
Parge 22nd June 2012, 14:32 Quote
Hey, you!

You want the fastest single GPU card in the world? You want the 7970 Ghz Edition.

Good work AMD! Shame they didn't have the drivers/price/speeds when the 7970 was first released.
silky 22nd June 2012, 14:47 Quote
Is there a table missing with volumes on? Isn't there usually one showing all the decibels?

Looks good to me though. The review sounds almost disappointed, but I think that is mostly looking at the grand scheme of things. When you look at the card itself, performance for money, this card seems pretty good, doesn't it? I'll wait to see what price they come in at.

I plan on buying a 2560x1440 resolution sometime this year, so I am keeping my eye out for a powerful single card graphics card to let me play games at that resolution with good settings. The monitor itself isn't even all that expensive... but these ~£400 cards make me wince. I am hoping maybe after the summer there will be slightly less painful prices.
Valinor 22nd June 2012, 15:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by MjFrosty
Also worth remembering the 480 although a bit of a miniature sun, was significantly faster than AMD's card at the time.

Although by CPC's testing, it wasn't significantly faster; it was dependent on which game you were playing as to whether the 480 was faster or slower than the 5870. Same thing with the bit-tech review; sometimes faster, sometimes slower.
Griffter 22nd June 2012, 15:05 Quote
ati with updated driver... now then test nvidia with the updated driver...
Baz 22nd June 2012, 15:08 Quote
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ati with updated driver... now then test nvidia with the updated driver...

We did. Check the test setup page. All cards tested with 304.48 beta.
Skulldragon 22nd June 2012, 15:08 Quote
Nice review. Hopefully this card will start a bit of a price war with nVidia.

Just a couple of things:
1.If you get around to testing some older cards with the new drivers, will you update the charts with their frame rates, or will we have to wait for another review. Only I generally don't install beta drivers, but might make an exception if my HD5770 stands to gain performance in Arma 2. On this note, kudos to AMD for such a great performance boost from these drivers.

2. Not really to do with the 7970, but I noticed that the GTX 680 & 690 have lower minimum frame rates in Arma 2 than in the 690 review. Is this attributable to an issue with the beta drivers, or error in the testing, or something else entirely.

Anyway, as I said, nice review. Keep 'em coming!
Baz 22nd June 2012, 15:15 Quote
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Originally Posted by Skulldragon
Nice review. Hopefully this card will start a bit of a price war with nVidia.

Just a couple of things:
1.If you get around to testing some older cards with the new drivers, will you update the charts with their frame rates, or will we have to wait for another review. Only I generally don't install beta drivers, but might make an exception if my HD5770 stands to gain performance in Arma 2. On this note, kudos to AMD for such a great performance boost from these drivers.

2. Not really to do with the 7970, but I noticed that the GTX 680 & 690 have lower minimum frame rates in Arma 2 than in the 690 review. Is this attributable to an issue with the beta drivers, or error in the testing, or something else entirely.

Anyway, as I said, nice review. Keep 'em coming!

Older cards? Perhaps, but it's time consuming. We tend not to test cards no-longer on sale. I'll be updating our graphics rigs and benchmarks later this year, so I might run some legacy cards then. The Caymen architecture of the 5770 is older and already well optimised, so don't expect similar increases.

The 690 results are higher following our new driver re-test in ARMA 2, and the 680 are pretty much the same. We re-ran the tests with the new beta driver, and there's usually a 1-fps margin of error with most benchmarks. We do repeat 3-times and average though.
rollo 22nd June 2012, 15:19 Quote
main question here

why wouldnt you just buy a custom cooled 7970 3gb for £350 and overclock it to 1100mhz + yourself

most overclocked 7970s are already above 1ghz and offer the same performance

id give this an E for effort by AMD

MSI and company already did the work for them with there custom cooled cards that offer much better thermals and better energy consumption to boot.

it was never choice between 7970 and 680 when they cost 450 each. Most people are still gonna bulk at £400 when you can get a overclocked 7970 that is quicker for £381

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3gb-scanfx-radeon-hd-7970-x-edition-5700mhz-gddr5-1050mhz-dvi-i-hdmi-2-x-mini-display-port

or get the asus direct cu 2 version for similar price with much better cooler and the exact same speed + mem speeds.

AMD hasnt really done alot from my perspective

where is this duel gpu card they are so late to the party its funny
Baz 22nd June 2012, 15:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by rollo
main question here

why wouldnt you just buy a custom cooled 7970 3gb for £350 and overclock it to 1100mhz + yourself

most overclocked 7970s are already above 1ghz and offer the same performance

id give this an E for effort by AMD

MSI and company already did the work for them with there custom cooled cards that offer much better thermals and better energy consumption to boot.

it was never choice between 7970 and 680 when they cost 450 each. Most people are still gonna bulk at £400 when you can get a overclocked 7970 that is quicker for £381

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3gb-scanfx-radeon-hd-7970-x-edition-5700mhz-gddr5-1050mhz-dvi-i-hdmi-2-x-mini-display-port

or get the asus direct cu 2 version for similar price with much better cooler and the exact same speed + mem speeds.

AMD hasnt really done alot from my perspective

where is this duel gpu card they are so late to the party its funny

I make this exact point in the final paragraph of the conclusion, albeit not as specifically.

"with pre-overclocked HD 7970 3GB’s instead looking the more attractive option."

I think perhaps AMD is just trying to save face a bit. With no dual-GPU to rival 690, it went after that single-GPU crown instead.
andrew8200m 22nd June 2012, 15:23 Quote
so.. 1GHz edition performs the same as 1GHz clocked 7970...

Pointless. Overpriced. Performance crown seeking con artists.

I actually hope nVidia release a 1100MHz edition GTX680 just so they can flip the bird whilst paddling in the river of tears AMD will no doubt shed.
Harlequin 22nd June 2012, 15:25 Quote
Baz

AMD have allready shown a dual gpu card ;)

so i would think one is waiting
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