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Bit-tech & Custom PC Awards 2012 Winners Announced

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samkiller42 3rd June 2012, 10:15 Quote
Waiiit? I thought OCUK was hated by 99% of the forums? So 'Highly Recomended' twice?

Cheers for posting this all up;)

Sam
Guinevere 3rd June 2012, 10:29 Quote
My 'understanding' of OCUK is that the prices are good but there's been reports in the forms of difficulties with returns. I haven't bought from them in years but never had any problems when I did... but then I never needed to return anything.

There's website is much more 'pro' than it used to be, and their support section, RMA procedures are just as obvious and easy to use as Scans.

Maybe OCUK has turned the corner? Be good to hear from those that voted for them
mayhem 3rd June 2012, 10:48 Quote
Actually it has changed a lot.
KidMod-Southpaw 3rd June 2012, 10:53 Quote
I'm surprised to see Crucial not pick up either of the SSD awards.
Shirty 3rd June 2012, 11:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by KidMod-Southpaw
I'm surprised to see Crucial not pick up either of the SSD awards.

Me too :|

Perhaps headline read/write speeds are more important to people than the end user experience...
billysielu 3rd June 2012, 11:09 Quote
Crucial M4 has been the best SSD all year - for that reason your rewards don't mean jack.
Shirty 3rd June 2012, 11:14 Quote
Well they were voted for by users of this site and Custom PC readers, so they are fairly representative...
Dave Lister 3rd June 2012, 12:03 Quote
Don't know why everyone thinks EA are a good game developer ! they are killing creativity in the industry.
bagman 3rd June 2012, 12:04 Quote
OCUK? I call foul play. OCUK is hated on this forum. I have read so many horror stories about them on bit-tech and back at the old cpc forums.

Why did thermaltake get an award? What have they done in the past year to help modding?

EVGA have lost out on their nvidia graphics card award. I can see why their warranty just isn't enough any more. Especially considering with asus and msi making custom coolers and custom PCBs to enhance OCing. I guess only water cooling guys are buying EVGA now. But what happened to EVGA OCX cards? Sure they were expensive but they did perform very well.

Also seeing EA made me :).
Omnituens 3rd June 2012, 12:10 Quote
Scam? Really?
OCUK? Really?

Shenanigans.
docodine 3rd June 2012, 12:46 Quote
Best SSD Manufacturer 2012 - OCZ

I don't think I've seen any forum threads recommending an OCZ SSD for any reason other than "they're the cheapest ones out there, skip a meal and get yourself an SSD"

Everyone recommends Crucial, Intel, etc..
S1W1 3rd June 2012, 13:45 Quote
SSD winner/commendation is a bit of a surprise (OCZ seem very middle of the road to me)- but you can't really complain, afterall we voted for them :D

I'd be interested to see the data in full, see how many votes each option received...
Woodspoon 3rd June 2012, 14:13 Quote
Thermaltake best modding manufacturer 2012?
Really?
Seriously really?
Fizzban 3rd June 2012, 15:27 Quote
Half of those were way off the mark. I reckon loads of people just voted for names they recognised rather than voting for the companys that deserved it. Where was Crucial or CCL or CDProjekt for example?

meh
BrightCandle 3rd June 2012, 15:48 Quote
I think your results have been hacked. EA, OCZ and OCUK appear to have cheated and adjusted their results to put themselves on top. That can't possibly be what the majority of readers think of these companies.
schmidtbag 3rd June 2012, 16:01 Quote
This list was acceptable to me until I saw Netgear and EA. I utterly hate both of those companies. I have seen far too many Netgear products fail for no particular reason, and EA along with Activision are dual-handedly destroying the gaming industry. I'm not fond of Bethesda either but at least Skyrim didn't turn out to be a complete programming failure. People who voted for these companies are the ones who are just like "well they work for me so they're good enough" but that doesn't mean they're actually good. Sure I've seen Netgear products work in front of me and operate at their normal speeds, but that doesn't qualify them as being good products. Sure EA releases titles that everyone likes to play, but those are usually the mindless games that have no originality - just high production value games that are incomplete and demand you to pay for more DLC.

For things like OCZ SSDs, ya maybe they're not the best but they're far from the worst. This list isn't just about whats the best, however it shouldn't be about what is most popular either. IMO, it should be what is most recommendable for the average user. So for example if someone wanted a new computer to play a few games here and there and browse the web, I'm sure a large % of people on this website would recommend an i7 or one of the better i5s, when a Core 2 Quad could be sufficient.
John_T 3rd June 2012, 16:08 Quote
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Originally Posted by Fizzban
Half of those were way off the mark. I reckon loads of people just voted for names they recognised...

I think there's a large element of truth to that. I myself didn't bother voting this year, as I haven't really bought a lot of stuff in the last 12 months so didn't feel I had any valuable opinions to add.

More than that, in previous years I've only wanted to vote on certain topics but were forced to vote on all of them. If you've never bought or owned an SSD for example, how can you really have a worthwhile opinion on the subject?

I think these awards would provide much more valuable information if there was a 'pass' option on each question, allowing people to only answer the questions that were relevant to them...
John_T 3rd June 2012, 16:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by schmidtbag

This list isn't just about whats the best, however it shouldn't be about what is most popular either. IMO, it should be what is most recommendable for the average user.

But that's exactly what these awards are, by putting it to a vote you are going to get what is most popular. What's most recommendable for the average user is what the Hardware Buyer's Guide is for.

As for your comments on Netgear and Bethesda, well, I'd highly recommend both myself. I have Netgear products that work easily and have never given me any kind of problems, and I love the Elder Scrolls games. Not everyone is looking for some kind of ground-breaking originality in every single item they buy, sometimes just doing something well is enough.

Likewise Omnituens' comments on 'Scam'. I personally feel Scan are not only one of the best technology retail companies I've ever used, but one of the best retail companies full stop. Their prices may not always be the lowest in the country, but their quality of service is brilliant - I think that's worth paying for. I know a number of people who feel the same about them.

Just because people have a different opinion to you, it doesn't make their opinion wrong.
spectre456 3rd June 2012, 16:43 Quote
how did alienware get that list is what i really want to know.
dave_beast 3rd June 2012, 17:25 Quote
OcUK has changed a lot since the old days of missing orders etc, so fairplay to them for winning awards.
Shayper09 3rd June 2012, 17:35 Quote
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Originally Posted by dave_beast
OcUK has changed a lot since the old days of missing orders etc, so fairplay to them for winning awards.

This. I've never had a problem with them with any of my orders. The forums are fantastic, the online ordering is easy (I prefer it to scan) and if I've ever had a problem with RMAs etc. I've been sorted out quickly and trouble free :)
DBA 3rd June 2012, 20:00 Quote
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Originally Posted by John_T
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Originally Posted by schmidtbag

This list isn't just about whats the best, however it shouldn't be about what is most popular either. IMO, it should be what is most recommendable for the average user.

But that's exactly what these awards are, by putting it to a vote you are going to get what is most popular. What's most recommendable for the average user is what the Hardware Buyer's Guide is for.

I thought we were voting for the companies that had earned themselves the right to be the best in their class. I.e. the companies that have made and released the most innovative of products or best most recommendable products. I don't mean for the company that has made the most expensive, everyone can do that, but someone that has gone that extra mile to please their customers or make something daring and new.

OCZ truly deserves their award for their release of their new Indilinx based drives (also their RevoDrives), they could just have released something on the already popular and well performing SandForce controllers. (also their RevoDrives)
JohnSheridan 3rd June 2012, 21:15 Quote
Be nice if Bit-Tech could tell us exactly how many votes there were and a full result for each category.
phuzz 3rd June 2012, 21:55 Quote
I'm not sure where the hate for Scan is coming from, I've spent thousands of pounds with them over the years (including recently), and never had the slightest problem, added to the free postage for BT forum users, they're great.
Mind you, they did once refund me for a dead graphics card more than I actually paid for it...
Omnituens 3rd June 2012, 22:23 Quote
Scan have refused to offer me free postage despite applying though various offers (here, i-series etc). They have refused to RMA items, or even return them under distance selling regs. I have seen Scan pre-built rigs that have retarded errors in them (PSU wrong way up or placed so the fan is against a solid bit of case, bent brackets where gfx cards have been forced in, the works).

OcUK are just as bad. Only way I have managed to get anything sorted with them is going down there IN PERSON and kicking up a fuss and PROVING to them an item is faulty. Only advantage they have is the site is easy to browse. But I would never buy from them again.

I voted Novatech as the 1 issue I had with them was dealt with quickly and easily. And in terms of errors/£ they have given me the best service by far.
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