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Titan Fenrir Siberia review

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dactone 10th May 2012, 09:50 Quote
it makes you think ,do company's even test there products in the prototype stage ?
Jaybles 10th May 2012, 10:01 Quote
I feel like I should point out it isn't a unique design.
Prolimatech Genesis
Spreadie 10th May 2012, 10:20 Quote
Jeez, what a monstrosity. I can see people buying it if it was the mutt's nuts, but there's no way I'd put up with the amount of obstruction it creates inside the case; regardless of how it performed.

I'd like to be able to change my RAM without having to remove the motherboard.
hyperion 10th May 2012, 10:35 Quote
I think that an enthusiast would not be depending on the cpu cooler to cool the motherboard, and if you're going big then you might as well go for a noctua D-14 or something like that. It's not low-profile or high-performance either. I think the concept for this cooler was wrong, unless the concept was to market a gimmick.
Baz 10th May 2012, 10:45 Quote
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Originally Posted by Jaybles
I feel like I should point out it isn't a unique design.
Prolimatech Genesis

You are correct; it wasn't very good either though.
tonyd223 10th May 2012, 10:46 Quote
How much? You having a laugh or what? And, just for a laugh, bet it doesn't perform well if you remove the fans and use it as a passive heatsink, because there's no space to put your normal case fans in...
Baz 10th May 2012, 10:47 Quote
It's odd how the heatsink market has changed. When I started at bit-tech, £60 for a Thermalright Ultra Extreme wasn't seen as a bad investment, but the success of liquid coolers has pretty much made high-end heatsinks redundant. /discuss
PingCrosby 10th May 2012, 11:01 Quote
Its obviously been named after the Siberian summer months, think I'll stick with me Frio a while longer yet
Spreadie 10th May 2012, 11:15 Quote
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Originally Posted by Baz
It's odd how the heatsink market has changed. When I started at bit-tech, £60 for a Thermalright Ultra Extreme wasn't seen as a bad investment, but the success of liquid coolers has pretty much made high-end heatsinks redundant. /discuss

Good point. We need another "Freezer 7 Pro moment" - Something cheap, easy to fit, relatively compact with great performance - to revive the HSF market. I'd buy one for one of my spare rigs.

However, I wouldn't touch an air cooler in the £40+ price range, but I am a WC fanboy and so probably not the most objective chap to ask.
warejon9 10th May 2012, 11:16 Quote
Maybe it performs better in an open test bench? Due to it looking like it might have struggled due to the lack of case airflow around it? Either that or the front 120mm fan blows hot air onto the send radiator.
Siwini 10th May 2012, 11:39 Quote
Push/pull configuration would definitely help
echo three 10th May 2012, 11:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by dactone
it makes you think ,do company's even test there products in the prototype stage ?

this
Saivert 10th May 2012, 11:57 Quote
I wouldn't buy this cooler for sure.

But. I would love if Bit-tech focused on the clearance near/above RAM slots.
The cooler in this review seems to be designed to allow good space for RAM modules but I didn't really get a sense of it from the pictures. Maybe take out the motherboard and give us a side shot.
A lot of coolers clash with RAM modules that has tall heatsinks like Corsair Vengeance do.
Almightyrastus 10th May 2012, 12:06 Quote
One thing I would like to see from HS manufacturers is to produce a template for a paper model of the same size and shape of the finished unit, nothing super detailed just a simplified blocky model so you can try it and see if there will be any conflicts.

I wouldn't have thought it will be a hard thing to produce as they will no doubt already have an accurate 3D CAD model of the HS
.//TuNdRa 10th May 2012, 12:24 Quote
The above is a damn good point, if I could've printed off a blocky outline of my Archon before i bought it and used that to check sizing; I'd've saved a damn good bit of time, it only barely fits in my Raven as is.

I think half the issue is that Copper and Aluminium are getting more expensive, so the good materials aren't that amazing.

I think the best heatsink out there at the second in a reasonable pricerange is the Frio, tbh. The recipie is proven. All that's needed is to make it cheaper still.
rollo 10th May 2012, 12:46 Quote
h80 performs better costs less and is an easier install you would have to be mad to buy this
[USRF]Obiwan 10th May 2012, 12:51 Quote
My silent running water cooled PC with EK CPU block, Eheim pump and slimline 320 rad is running 24/7 for over two years now without a refill. It never gets above 34c on load, running on a six core AMD Phenom (non overclocked) In fact before my rebuild two years ago. it was running the same block/pump/rad combination 24/7 since late 2003 on a AMD 4800+.

So I can say that my experience with the same WC setup is almost 9 years. And until now any aircooler the industry has invented never reach the temps I get with my trusty 9 year old WC setup. Let alone survive that long.
law99 10th May 2012, 12:54 Quote
So are they assuming people who use and abuse computers don't know how to read a review on the internet?
feathers 10th May 2012, 13:23 Quote
This "cooler" sums up why I detest air cooling.
noizdaemon666 10th May 2012, 13:46 Quote
I'd go for the Arctic i30 over this any day. Better performance, cheaper and less likely to cause you to launch something across the room in frustration at trying to fit it :D
ChromeX 10th May 2012, 13:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by feathers
This "cooler" sums up why I detest air cooling.

You use a poor example of an air cooling solution to reinforce your opinion on why air cooling is bad... that sounds sensible :? Why not do the smart thing and use a good example like the frio or the dark rock pro to see why air cooling is still viable.
modfx 10th May 2012, 14:28 Quote
Took one look at the first pic and knew what was coming. I was hoping to be proven wrong. Bleh.
fdbh96 10th May 2012, 18:09 Quote
Would like quite cool in a windowed case with an LED fan on, shame its not very good :(
Noob? 10th May 2012, 18:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by Baz
It's odd how the heatsink market has changed. When I started at bit-tech, £60 for a Thermalright Ultra Extreme wasn't seen as a bad investment, but the success of liquid coolers has pretty much made high-end heatsinks redundant. /discuss

I don't know about being made redundant but it sure does have to be something special, considering the price as you say of closed loop systems such as the H60/H100 etc...

Which leads me onto Spreadie's post:
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Originally Posted by Spreadie
Good point. We need another "Freezer 7 Pro moment" - Something cheap, easy to fit, relatively compact with great performance - to revive the HSF market. I'd buy one for one of my spare rigs.

However, I wouldn't touch an air cooler in the £40+ price range, but I am a WC fanboy and so probably not the most objective chap to ask.

You are right my friend about the something cheap and all that but I would have thought technically speaking that Freezer 7 Pro would perform well on todays CPU's compared to the market it was released for? Given TDP of CPU's has mainly come down?

I'm not a WC guy but do use the Corsair offerings amongst others and must say everything has its place IMO.

I tend to swap between air/water coolers depending on the requirement, like for example, my mATX build, too small a case to get a H60 in, so opted for a low profile Noctua. I'm sure you get my point.
yougotkicked 11th May 2012, 00:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by [USRF
Obiwan]So I can say that my experience with the same WC setup is almost 9 years. And until now any aircooler the industry has invented never reach the temps I get with my trusty 9 year old WC setup. Let alone survive that long.

As much as I agree with you conceptually, I'll take that challenge.

My Tuniq Tower-120 is pushing 7 years now, and is doing just fine. I had to modify the mounting bracket to use it on my last upgrade, The fan has been replaced, and I need to re-finish the contact plate before my next upgrade, but that last one is my fault (never patient enough to mount it right the first time, end up scratching it in the process). All told I bet I already have you beat for cost/year. Not to mention my rig is OC'd to the heavens. (5.2Ghz on my last bench run).

That being said, the majority of these air coolers are bad investments. Especially ones like this that are prone to conflict with VRM heat sinks in future board layouts (I don't care about messing with ram heat sinks, those are worthless and you shouldn't use them in the first place). with the rising cost of materials, liquid cooling is looking like a strong alternative to high end air. Whenever I find my TT120 inadequate for my needs (or Ii have money and feel like having some fun) I will definitely move to a water loop.
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