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Originally Posted by fluxtaticCan't find it at the moment, but I seem to recall AMD saying there will be one more generation on AM3+. I thought that was Piledriver, but it appears that will be on FM2...makes sense, since it will be an APU.
To Feathers I have to say: bully for you. Not all of us are so fortunate as to do a ground-up rebuild whenever we're in the mood/need to upgrade. When my old AM2/AM3 board died, I bought an AM3+ board, thinking at least I'd be ready for BD. Originally the plan was a scratch build for Bulldozer, all brand-new hardware. Then the old board died and I just about went bonkers waiting for the new board to show up. I was stuck on my tertiary 850 MHz Socket A system (running Ubuntu that had the crap first version of the Unity shell, no less.)
That is, much as I would have liked to, I couldn't afford a ground-up build then, and I sure as hell can't now. So good for you that you can drop that kind of cash when you feel. Some of us, though, are stuck with the cold comfort of having compatibility between generations so we're not forced into a $1000 build every couple years.
Originally Posted by feathersFor me it's not difficult. When AMD was king I was just about to buy one and then Intel came out with the core duo. All of my AMD friends then dumped AMD for Intel. I go with whatever performs best and I also like overclocking (AMD has generally been quite weak on that compared to intel).
I guess there is the novelty value of having an 8 core cpu. I personally don't want 8 weak cores any more than I'd pay 500 pounds for a 32nm 6 core sandybridge. Until my mobo died 2 months ago I was using i7 860. When I buy a replacement mobo it will be z68 and i5 2500k. I'm no longer willing to pay 220+ for cpu and i5 k gives lot of overclock headroom at reasonable cost. AMD doesn't even merit a look. :)
Originally Posted by feathersLOL. If only I could. My EVGA motherboard died 2.5 months ago and I got it sent to EVGA germany for repair. Since the PC was in pieces I decided to sell the mobo and CPU and get an i5 and z68. 2 months later still no new parts because I have to wait until I sold the EVGA mobo and I had a false sale on ebay. Guy didn't pay.
Because of a move to Sweden which cost close to 500 followed by a move back to the UK 2 months later costing another 240, I don't have the money to buy new i5k and z68. I got 70 back from sale of old EVGA board so that is half the cost of new z68 motherboard at 140. Need to sell my 4 sticks ram totalling 8gb to get new 1.5v memory.
I am currently using my GF's old celeron M laptop which until last night had a 5 second lag between each key press when typing. Opening a program would cause lag of several minutes. The laptop has 2 mem slots but only 1 slot is filled. Can't find the correct mem type to buy another stick because there is no record of this particular packard bell easynote ever having existed. I could take a gamble and buy a stick for a similar easynote model on ebay but it would cost 20 to 38 pounds.
The lag got so bad last night I opened the hard disk cover to see if it had Sata hard disk and sure enough, Seacrap 160gb 5400rpm. I removed it and put in my very vintage 30gb OCZ Vertex 1 SSD, installed windows 7 x64 home premium and now the performance is stunning!
No more lag!
Being a craptop it will never ever run games. It will only play HD videos using windows media center. None of the other movie players (including VLC) can play the video without jerking and grinding.
So I am saving money and selling off old parts so I can buy an i5 2500k, z68 and some new ram.
Fortunately I have all the other parts, case, liquid cooling, graphics, monitor but still the parts I need are not cheap!
I would never go for an AMD system (as AMD are at the moment). I'd rather continue on craptop and save the money for the intel parts.
Originally Posted by JasioThe best Bulldozer motherboard is one traded in for credit for a Sandy Bridge motherboard. Even without a CPU in it- it's faster.
Originally Posted by feathersI would rather not buy an antiquated phenom II when I can buy an i5 2500k. Makes no sense to me but I guess there are always people who will buy the crap stuff. I would rather save some extra cash and buy a significantly faster CPU especially when the intel overclocks so well.
Originally Posted by hardwarenerdI don't know if you pay attention, but AMD was never king.
They are the Bang for the Buck king. Overclocking? have you read? lets see a sandybridge anything hit 8ghz (Bulldozer world record of around 8.7Ghz). Or lets see them hit an easy 5ghz on air?!?(not gonna happen) ooh look your i5 can get to 4ghz (whoopdy do) how much you wanna pay for that chip? 220?
Oh btw intel fanboy, beat 2x the graphics performance when i am using my 2x graphics cards at 16x/16x and you are stuck at 8x/8x
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