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What's the Best AMD Bulldozer Motherboard?

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Jasio 23rd November 2011, 01:55 Quote
The best Bulldozer motherboard is one traded in for credit for a Sandy Bridge motherboard. Even without a CPU in it- it's faster.
fluxtatic 23rd November 2011, 05:57 Quote
Can't find it at the moment, but I seem to recall AMD saying there will be one more generation on AM3+. I thought that was Piledriver, but it appears that will be on FM2...makes sense, since it will be an APU.

To Feathers I have to say: bully for you. Not all of us are so fortunate as to do a ground-up rebuild whenever we're in the mood/need to upgrade. When my old AM2/AM3 board died, I bought an AM3+ board, thinking at least I'd be ready for BD. Originally the plan was a scratch build for Bulldozer, all brand-new hardware. Then the old board died and I just about went bonkers waiting for the new board to show up. I was stuck on my tertiary 850 MHz Socket A system (running Ubuntu that had the crap first version of the Unity shell, no less.)

That is, much as I would have liked to, I couldn't afford a ground-up build then, and I sure as hell can't now. So good for you that you can drop that kind of cash when you feel. Some of us, though, are stuck with the cold comfort of having compatibility between generations so we're not forced into a $1000 build every couple years.
technogiant 23rd November 2011, 08:39 Quote
From what I recall Komodo was going to be on an FMx platform (socket FM2?).....but this has now been cancelled and replaced by Vishera...a pure cpu successor to Zambezi and it would be on AM3+.
But I don't know if this is confirmed or just rumor.
feathers 23rd November 2011, 10:06 Quote
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Originally Posted by fluxtatic
Can't find it at the moment, but I seem to recall AMD saying there will be one more generation on AM3+. I thought that was Piledriver, but it appears that will be on FM2...makes sense, since it will be an APU.

To Feathers I have to say: bully for you. Not all of us are so fortunate as to do a ground-up rebuild whenever we're in the mood/need to upgrade. When my old AM2/AM3 board died, I bought an AM3+ board, thinking at least I'd be ready for BD. Originally the plan was a scratch build for Bulldozer, all brand-new hardware. Then the old board died and I just about went bonkers waiting for the new board to show up. I was stuck on my tertiary 850 MHz Socket A system (running Ubuntu that had the crap first version of the Unity shell, no less.)

That is, much as I would have liked to, I couldn't afford a ground-up build then, and I sure as hell can't now. So good for you that you can drop that kind of cash when you feel. Some of us, though, are stuck with the cold comfort of having compatibility between generations so we're not forced into a $1000 build every couple years.

LOL. If only I could. My EVGA motherboard died 2.5 months ago and I got it sent to EVGA germany for repair. Since the PC was in pieces I decided to sell the mobo and CPU and get an i5 and z68. 2 months later still no new parts because I have to wait until I sold the EVGA mobo and I had a false sale on ebay. Guy didn't pay.

Because of a move to Sweden which cost close to 500 followed by a move back to the UK 2 months later costing another 240, I don't have the money to buy new i5k and z68. I got 70 back from sale of old EVGA board so that is half the cost of new z68 motherboard at 140. Need to sell my 4 sticks ram totalling 8gb to get new 1.5v memory.

I am currently using my GF's old celeron M laptop which until last night had a 5 second lag between each key press when typing. Opening a program would cause lag of several minutes. The laptop has 2 mem slots but only 1 slot is filled. Can't find the correct mem type to buy another stick because there is no record of this particular packard bell easynote ever having existed. I could take a gamble and buy a stick for a similar easynote model on ebay but it would cost 20 to 38 pounds.

The lag got so bad last night I opened the hard disk cover to see if it had Sata hard disk and sure enough, Seacrap 160gb 5400rpm. I removed it and put in my very vintage 30gb OCZ Vertex 1 SSD, installed windows 7 x64 home premium and now the performance is stunning!

No more lag!

Being a craptop it will never ever run games. It will only play HD videos using windows media center. None of the other movie players (including VLC) can play the video without jerking and grinding.

So I am saving money and selling off old parts so I can buy an i5 2500k, z68 and some new ram.

Fortunately I have all the other parts, case, liquid cooling, graphics, monitor but still the parts I need are not cheap!

I would never go for an AMD system (as AMD are at the moment). I'd rather continue on craptop and save the money for the intel parts.
feathers 23rd November 2011, 11:28 Quote
Let's put it this way. I would rather use an old crappy laptop for a year and save money to buy the best performing parts than go with something inferior just to avoid waiting.

Once you have a half decent PC then it's not so hard to update it. My EVGA FTW 657 was almost 3 years old, sold it for £70. A while back I sold my Giga GTX 240 for £70. Sold my i7 860 for £112. That's money towards new PC parts and since I overclock, I can quite easily go more than 3 years without upgrading mobo or CPU!
tonyd223 23rd November 2011, 15:35 Quote
Ubuntu FTW on old hardware - my old A8N-SLI motherboard can run crossfire under ubuntu so long live socket 939 dual cores...
tad2008 23rd November 2011, 22:00 Quote
Well it was a good and informative roundup even though I must agree that the Intel 2500 seems to be the best bet at the moment for price/performance. Like a number of people I too had high hopes on the bulldozer architecture and I desperately want to upgrade from my aging AMD 3Ghz dual core cpu to something more modern.

The cost of motherboards and cpu's at the moment is prohibitive and it seems like forever when you could buy a motherboard, memory and cpu all for under £100 and still get decent performing hardware for the money.

I guess I will have to see what 2012... or the following years bring to the table.
feathers 23rd November 2011, 22:37 Quote
I don't ever remember getting a mobo, cpu and mem for under 100. Nothing worth having performance wise anyway. I still remember buying one of the first DVD burners for 200 pounds.
tonyd223 24th November 2011, 09:53 Quote
I've still got a usb external cd-rw drive, in a box which cost over £100
hardwarenerd 25th November 2011, 03:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by feathers
For me it's not difficult. When AMD was king I was just about to buy one and then Intel came out with the core duo. All of my AMD friends then dumped AMD for Intel. I go with whatever performs best and I also like overclocking (AMD has generally been quite weak on that compared to intel).

I guess there is the novelty value of having an 8 core cpu. I personally don't want 8 weak cores any more than I'd pay 500 pounds for a 32nm 6 core sandybridge. Until my mobo died 2 months ago I was using i7 860. When I buy a replacement mobo it will be z68 and i5 2500k. I'm no longer willing to pay 220+ for cpu and i5 k gives lot of overclock headroom at reasonable cost. AMD doesn't even merit a look. :)

I don't know if you pay attention, but AMD was never king. They are the Bang for the Buck king. Overclocking? have you read? lets see a sandybridge anything hit 8ghz (Bulldozer world record of around 8.7Ghz). Or lets see them hit an easy 5ghz on air?!?(not gonna happen) ooh look your i5 can get to 4ghz (whoopdy do) how much you wanna pay for that chip? 220? and overclocking on the weak side for amd? my last CPU was a Phenom II 940 stock 3.0 oc to 4.5 ghz (50%) which by the way, until bulldozer was the fastest cpu in the world. I currently own an AMD FX 8150 (3.6ghz 8 core) overclocked to 5.4ghz (lets see i5 hit that spot at $220usd)

Yes, although I am an AMD fan i do have to admit, Intel do make better high end CPU's, but bang for the buck AMD. Lets just see here 2.5x the price for 15% better performance? (not much of a comparison if you ask me) Before you start making uneducated accusations, do a bit of research before someone like me has to point out the foot in your mouth. 8 core cpu over rated? what about windows 8?

Why are you trying to intel promote on an amd motherboard post? Your input was useless and invalid, go on an intel fanboy forum if you want to get off topic.

Back on topic, I own the Sabertooth 990fx motherboard and couldn't be happier. People complain about it only having 6 sata 3 ports, how many people have more than 6hdds? I have 4 and that is nearing ridiculous. I really enjoy the features and layout of the motherboard, well designed all around, and MemOK feature (awesome)

And an extra fan header!! awesome little feature that is hard to find. Been an Asus fan for awhile, and not just for motherboards, but graphics cards and monitors as well. I personally give this motherboard a 10/10, except seeing that i could have squeezed a bit more performance out of the Crosshair, maybe should have gone that route... Oh btw intel fanboy, beat 2x the graphics performance when i am using my 2x graphics cards at 16x/16x and you are stuck at 8x/8x
hardwarenerd 26th November 2011, 04:06 Quote
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Originally Posted by feathers
LOL. If only I could. My EVGA motherboard died 2.5 months ago and I got it sent to EVGA germany for repair. Since the PC was in pieces I decided to sell the mobo and CPU and get an i5 and z68. 2 months later still no new parts because I have to wait until I sold the EVGA mobo and I had a false sale on ebay. Guy didn't pay.

Because of a move to Sweden which cost close to 500 followed by a move back to the UK 2 months later costing another 240, I don't have the money to buy new i5k and z68. I got 70 back from sale of old EVGA board so that is half the cost of new z68 motherboard at 140. Need to sell my 4 sticks ram totalling 8gb to get new 1.5v memory.

I am currently using my GF's old celeron M laptop which until last night had a 5 second lag between each key press when typing. Opening a program would cause lag of several minutes. The laptop has 2 mem slots but only 1 slot is filled. Can't find the correct mem type to buy another stick because there is no record of this particular packard bell easynote ever having existed. I could take a gamble and buy a stick for a similar easynote model on ebay but it would cost 20 to 38 pounds.

The lag got so bad last night I opened the hard disk cover to see if it had Sata hard disk and sure enough, Seacrap 160gb 5400rpm. I removed it and put in my very vintage 30gb OCZ Vertex 1 SSD, installed windows 7 x64 home premium and now the performance is stunning!

No more lag!

Being a craptop it will never ever run games. It will only play HD videos using windows media center. None of the other movie players (including VLC) can play the video without jerking and grinding.

So I am saving money and selling off old parts so I can buy an i5 2500k, z68 and some new ram.

Fortunately I have all the other parts, case, liquid cooling, graphics, monitor but still the parts I need are not cheap!

I would never go for an AMD system (as AMD are at the moment). I'd rather continue on craptop and save the money for the intel parts.
DONT CARE IF YOU DONT WANT AN AMD, GO TO AN INTEL FORUM AND LEARN TO READ!!!!

To be honest, this is a forum thread called "what is the best bulldozer motherboard" NOT what intel chip or chipset do you want, please stay on topic. And about your craptop, STAY ON TOPIC JEEZ you posted NOTHING related to the topic AT ALL WHATSOEVER. if you want to talk about your intel I5 build, go on an intel I5 forum, not a what is the best bulldozer motherboard forum, jeez.

My brother recently purchased the asus Sabertooth 990fx motherboard and it is performing beautifully, the MemOK feature is fantastic. In my opinion, the Crosshair might be a bit extreme, even for me (who overclocks alot) The crosshair offers a few more features, but using the older crosshair forumla and finding its extra features to be buggy and/or defective, i think i will go with the sabertooth.
hardwarenerd 26th November 2011, 04:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by Jasio
The best Bulldozer motherboard is one traded in for credit for a Sandy Bridge motherboard. Even without a CPU in it- it's faster.
go post on an intel forum, your opinion is useless and unfounded, the title says best bulldozer motherboard, not INTEL INTEL INTEL

go away and shut the hell up
hardwarenerd 26th November 2011, 04:19 Quote
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Originally Posted by feathers
I would rather not buy an antiquated phenom II when I can buy an i5 2500k. Makes no sense to me but I guess there are always people who will buy the crap stuff. I would rather save some extra cash and buy a significantly faster CPU especially when the intel overclocks so well.

thanks for staying on topic oh wait, you are an intel fanboy, go to intel and tell them how much you love them and how you are showing the rest of the world how foolish intel fanboys are.
Xunsu 27th November 2011, 20:24 Quote
I was only looking sort off knew the ROG would land up on top, its a nice board, as is the chipset...to bad the CPU designed for it isnt...

nothing wrong with the chipset and pairing off with a nice PII hex core through
Jipa 28th November 2011, 13:24 Quote
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Originally Posted by hardwarenerd
I don't know if you pay attention, but AMD was never king.
Yes they were, before the C2D came out.
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They are the Bang for the Buck king. Overclocking? have you read? lets see a sandybridge anything hit 8ghz (Bulldozer world record of around 8.7Ghz). Or lets see them hit an easy 5ghz on air?!?(not gonna happen) ooh look your i5 can get to 4ghz (whoopdy do) how much you wanna pay for that chip? 220?

WHAT? Someone actually gives a damn about some world record OC performed using liquid helium? Gimme a break. In day-to-day use i5's give VERY nice clock speeds without using all the electricity in the world.
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Oh btw intel fanboy, beat 2x the graphics performance when i am using my 2x graphics cards at 16x/16x and you are stuck at 8x/8x

2x the performance? Yeah...

Sure, feathers was in the wrong thread, but you just make yourself look like exactly the kind of blind fanboy that I just don't understand. AMD CPUs and platforms do have their strong points, but you just went so far over the top it's not even amusing.
Xunsu 28th November 2011, 23:53 Quote
Wait, I m just wondering specking of PCIe, is AMD chipsets going to have PCIe3.0 support? i know most if not all can full take 2.0 to their advantage but still vaild question. considering that 3.0 even at 8x is a bit faster, than 2.0 16x if my memory serves me correct
Xunsu 28th November 2011, 23:53 Quote
I mean can't take advantage of PCIe 2.0
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