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Originally Posted by steveo_mcgPhil since you clearly have no interest in using linux why do you bother coming in a trolling the threads regarding it?
Fact is there are menu options to do things in this distro but since the internet is text based its actually easier to read then copy paste text commands than it is to follow your way through a 4 level deep hierarchical menu to then follow a serise of click here do this click here do that sequence of help that if you miss a bit can land you even more confused.
Exactly you would spend hours doing what should be a completely unnecessary procedure where as in three simple "Magic" commands you'd be off.
Originally Posted by Phil RhodesFrankly I've had to install linux more often than windows because it's so easy to destroy the entire install by typing in the wrong gibberish! I have pages and pages of notes (made on a windows PC) detailing exactly how to set up various things under Ubuntu, on the basis that you install it, try and make it do what you want, mistakenly make it unbootable, then you reinstall, return it to the point just before you screwed up, try something else, get a bit further, mistakenly kill the install again, reinstall from the CDs... god it's just soul-destroying. The only thing I'll put Ubuntu on these days is eee-PCs which have that magic "factory reset" button, you want to do anything else you're on your own.
Originally Posted by AnakhaQuote:Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawnsee an HTPC means all of that and Blu-Ray to me and well is there an option for that in the linux scene legal or not?
[strike]Thoeretically, yes. Rip the disc contents using software on Windows, and XBMC can then play it natively (Although without menus and the like so far).[/strike]
You can follow the guide(s) here:
Or (with DumpHD installed and working) use a command-line like this:Code:./dumphd.sh --infile:BDMV/STREAM/000054.m2ts /media/cdrom | mplayer -cache 8192 -lavdopts threads=4 -vo vdpau -vc ffh264vdpau -To decode and play on-the-fly.
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawnsee an HTPC means all of that and Blu-Ray to me and well is there an option for that in the linux scene legal or not?
./dumphd.sh --infile:BDMV/STREAM/000054.m2ts /media/cdrom | mplayer -cache 8192 -lavdopts threads=4 -vo vdpau -vc ffh264vdpau -
Originally Posted by Da DegoAnd frankly, the day that I can open up my windows box, open up Windows Update and have it upgrade EVERY BIT OF SOFTWARE on my box to the newest version (not just the OS) with two mouse clicks and a password, or just search for new software by typing in what I want and having it go fetch, install and configure it for me, I'll start listening to the Windows crowd about what is or isn't "easy."
Originally Posted by Phil RhodesI'm talking about an OS that knows how to take care of itself, without the user needing to learn anything.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. I have to say, I really resent the standard "you're just too stupid" approach. Too impatient, perhaps, if "impatient" means that I want to spend more time using a piece of software than I do installing it.
To paraphrase something I said privately to someone: the issue with linux is consistency. I have no problem with learning new techniques or manually configuring things if I can see a tangible benefit from doing it. The frustration is that every piece of software under every linux distro seems to want different settings in different text files in different formats, different shell scripts run with different options in different places, with different archives in different formats unpacked in different ways into different directories. Everything's different every time, based on whichever approach to software distribution is fashionable at the time. You can't possibly defeat a situation this as a learning process because next time you want to perform a related task it'll be a completely unrelated procedure. I mean, look in the article that spawned this debate: instructions to install two or three pieces of software are each different sets of instructions to do exactly the same job. It's crazy.
Ubuntu - package manager. Done. It does ALL of this for you.
Originally Posted by Phil RhodesBut it doesn't, does it. Again, look at the article preceding these comments. Three bits of software installed, three completely different procedures to do it, none of which are in any way consistent with the others, and at least one of them is, by sane standards, incredibly techy and complicated. To install a graphics driver!
There are other examples. You can't by default play DVDs or h.264 video on Ubuntu, among other formats, for complex reasons involving opensource politics and lots of other things I don't care about. In order to make it happen you have to hack text files with complex code strings.
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