Holy mother of nice scores :) Good job, good rant, loving it! It sure is stupid to have three different cooler mountings for the same CPU manufacturer at the same time. Though that's not the only thing Intel has done just to take a piss at the customers, is it...
Please define "heavily overclocked", under EU law making forum members wait for OC numbers is actually illegal, punishable by being forced to watch Hannah Montana videos in a 24 hr loop.
Nice review, but I put my question marks on the comments.
How can you judge wether those coolers perform good if you have no previous results to compare?
If you look at other reviews of the Zalman CNPS 10X Extreme you see that it goes on par or even beats the TRUE.
Cant you make a retest with those coolers compared with the TRUE or Noctua NH-U12P?
Originally Posted by demanufacture Nice review, but I put my question marks on the comments.
How can you judge wether those coolers perform good if you have no previous results to compare?
If you look at other reviews of the Zalman CNPS 10X Extreme you see that it goes on par or even beats the TRUE.
Cant you make a retest with those coolers compared with the TRUE or Noctua NH-U12P?
Previous results? It's an entirely new socket. By simply assessing the deltaT and noise we can judge how good a cooler is. Cooling alone isn't the only factor and the Lynnfield core is relatively similar to the Core i7 LGA1366 CPUs so we have a general idea of how a good or bad cooler performs.
The CNPS certainly does not beat the TRUE in our experience on other sockets. There's no chance considering the quality of its base manufacture. I cannot speak for what other sites test with - read their test setup data.
We would have included the TRUE and Noctua, but, as we said in the text, they don't include the mounting brackets for LGA1156 yet.
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi We would have included the TRUE and Noctua, but, as we said in the text, they don't include the mounting brackets for LGA1156 yet.
can't wait for the bolt through kit from Thermalright.
does Corsair H50 support this socket? anyone know if they'll release a mounting kit for this socket?
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi We would have included the TRUE and Noctua, but, as we said in the text, they don't include the mounting brackets for LGA1156 yet.
Thats why I'm glad my X58 board has both 1366 ans 775 mounting holes.
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi We would have included the TRUE and Noctua, but, as we said in the text, they don't include the mounting brackets for LGA1156 yet.
can't wait for the bolt through kit from Thermalright.
does Corsair H50 support this socket? anyone know if they'll release a mounting kit for this socket?
They haven't quite decided yet. Personally I'm pretty sure they'll provide mounting kit for 1156 as well, and by the looks of things, they definitely should (it's a nice cooler). Dunno whether they'll provide it in box, though...
Just seen a couple more board previews - ASRock P55 Deluxe and EVGA P55 (E657) FTW and both have socket 775 mounting holes slightly offset from the 1156 mounting points. It'd be interesting to see how many other manufacturers decide to do the same allowing us to reuse our favourite heatsinks and/or waterblocks.
PS: If I was ever going to buy a motherboard on looks alone that that EVGA beastie would be top of the list - $diety it's beautiful!
hmm is it just me or are those dT's massive?
I know you have OC'ed the CPU to a secrete speed, but a dT of 74C (assuming you don't work in a freezer) puts it very close to 100C even the best cooler is probably only managing to keep the CPU at ~80C which in itself seem high to me.
Would be nice to see how the standard cooler that comes with the CPU performs.. or does it give up and die at the OC you are running it at? Since the dT gives us an idea of what temp the CPU runs at.. any hints at what it runs at at stock speed?
First, I am relieved to find out that I am not the only person that hates the way most coolers mount. I am certain that there is a secret competition between the designers to see who's cooler can obtain the highest points in three categories, longest to install, most frustrating and most confusing.
Second, the coolers maybe part of a more sinister plot. Assuming that everyone is busy for an hour* installing their cooler at the same time, an opportunist could take over the world with little resistance or commotion.
*I am allowing an hour time to wad up the instructions and throw them across the room, stomp on the box and search the internet for new curse words.
Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove hmm is it just me or are those dT's massive?
I know you have OC'ed the CPU to a secrete speed, but a dT of 74C (assuming you don't work in a freezer) puts it very close to 100C even the best cooler is probably only managing to keep the CPU at ~80C which in itself seem high to me.
Would be nice to see how the standard cooler that comes with the CPU performs.. or does it give up and die at the OC you are running it at? Since the dT gives us an idea of what temp the CPU runs at.. any hints at what it runs at at stock speed?
Good detective work :) Yes, the delta Ts are very high, which is why none of the coolers got a good review.
Although, as the article states, we can't go specifics about the overclock, I can say it's not the maximum overclock for that chip and doesn't require a huge amount of additional voltage. Clearly, the cooler manufacturers still have a lot of work to do.
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ReplyOur multimeter has a thermal probe attachment, as do most.
Or maybe wait for a decent cooler to be released before wasting your money! ;)
haha ok cool, it didn't quite register with me at first. my multimeter doesnt have a thermal function :/
How can you judge wether those coolers perform good if you have no previous results to compare?
If you look at other reviews of the Zalman CNPS 10X Extreme you see that it goes on par or even beats the TRUE.
Cant you make a retest with those coolers compared with the TRUE or Noctua NH-U12P?
Ha! Too many sockets, even I got confused. It's fixed, thanks for flagging it!
There are some details on the last page - please read that :)
Previous results? It's an entirely new socket. By simply assessing the deltaT and noise we can judge how good a cooler is. Cooling alone isn't the only factor and the Lynnfield core is relatively similar to the Core i7 LGA1366 CPUs so we have a general idea of how a good or bad cooler performs.
The CNPS certainly does not beat the TRUE in our experience on other sockets. There's no chance considering the quality of its base manufacture. I cannot speak for what other sites test with - read their test setup data.
We would have included the TRUE and Noctua, but, as we said in the text, they don't include the mounting brackets for LGA1156 yet.
can't wait for the bolt through kit from Thermalright.
does Corsair H50 support this socket? anyone know if they'll release a mounting kit for this socket?
Thats why I'm glad my X58 board has both 1366 ans 775 mounting holes.
They haven't quite decided yet. Personally I'm pretty sure they'll provide mounting kit for 1156 as well, and by the looks of things, they definitely should (it's a nice cooler). Dunno whether they'll provide it in box, though...
PS: If I was ever going to buy a motherboard on looks alone that that EVGA beastie would be top of the list - $diety it's beautiful!
All black is boring... my ass! :p
Take a look at the EVGA P55 132-LF-E657:
http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stories/2009/July/General%20News/evga_132-lf-e657.jpg
I know you have OC'ed the CPU to a secrete speed, but a dT of 74C (assuming you don't work in a freezer) puts it very close to 100C even the best cooler is probably only managing to keep the CPU at ~80C which in itself seem high to me.
Would be nice to see how the standard cooler that comes with the CPU performs.. or does it give up and die at the OC you are running it at? Since the dT gives us an idea of what temp the CPU runs at.. any hints at what it runs at at stock speed?
First, I am relieved to find out that I am not the only person that hates the way most coolers mount. I am certain that there is a secret competition between the designers to see who's cooler can obtain the highest points in three categories, longest to install, most frustrating and most confusing.
Second, the coolers maybe part of a more sinister plot. Assuming that everyone is busy for an hour* installing their cooler at the same time, an opportunist could take over the world with little resistance or commotion.
*I am allowing an hour time to wad up the instructions and throw them across the room, stomp on the box and search the internet for new curse words.
Good detective work :) Yes, the delta Ts are very high, which is why none of the coolers got a good review.
Although, as the article states, we can't go specifics about the overclock, I can say it's not the maximum overclock for that chip and doesn't require a huge amount of additional voltage. Clearly, the cooler manufacturers still have a lot of work to do.
When they launch - be patient! :)
really? Intel and the mobo companies have a NDA that last until launch thats unusual
mobo companies are under the same Intel NDA. It's entirely normal and usual ;)
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