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Quote PureSilver 5th May 2009, 11:40
Nice article, but my much-hoped for photos of someone attempting to use computers in tough situations (like a Toughbook underwater, or a General Dynamics in a warzone, or a Gateway... in like a warm office or something) never materialised! Keep up the good work...
Quote Sheiken 5th May 2009, 11:43
Very nice article. Although it might have been worthy to mention SSD's when talking about shock impact and disk drives?
Quote stoff3r 5th May 2009, 12:24
I like innovations that packs more power in a smaller erea, like Amd's attemt at creating a cpu with integrated graphics-prosessing. Soon we all have good enough computers on the size of a card-reader, so ruggedness will sort-of not be needed anymore. LCD-screens are ok but E-paper and other sorts of bendable OLED technologies will take over so i don't think much of this will ever catch on in the consumer market. I mean the first mobile phones with dual-core cpus are allready in the shops...

Us in the future sitting on mount everest in a snow-storm:
P1:"hey wanna play some wc3 on the handheld?"
P2"oh I left my roll-up-screen back in camp 5"
P1: "No problem i have a pocket projector integrated in my 1080P videocam sunglasses".
P2: "cool. let me just check the weather reports on my i-pocket-pc-satelite-walkie-navigator-phone."
Quote Veles 5th May 2009, 12:38
Something my gf helped program is up flying in eurofighters right now, she did it while she was an intern, kind of a scary thought but it's not a flight essential bit of program.
Quote Orionche 5th May 2009, 14:14
Loved the article. Would love to see a sequel with more pictures/videos/interviews. :) Hell, even a test of some of the computers would be great. :)
Quote Enur 5th May 2009, 15:20
This is exactly the kind of article, that keeps me returning to bit-tech for staying on the edge of computering. Keep up the good work.
Quote Turbotab 5th May 2009, 15:38
Enjoyed the article, but that picture of a F22 seems to have come from HAWX, rather than real life.
Quote Cupboard 5th May 2009, 17:19
I can't wait for splash proof keyboards, I have just (as in ten minutes ago) replaced the keyboard in my laptop after an accident with water. That set me back nearly £50 :(
Quote ufk 5th May 2009, 18:53
I can vouch for the "double 'ard b'stard"ness of the Panasonic Toughbooks, I've seen one bounce down a flight of stairs, rebound off the wall and still power up with no problems

Rugged is good, hopefully it'll filter down to mobile phones as well, I find them flimsy and killing a phone by getting caught in a rain shower cheeses me off.
Quote yodasarmpit 5th May 2009, 19:11
One of the key points mentioned in the article is the increased cost at point of purchase.
However, as noted, this is repaid several times by increased productivity (less time in the repair loop) and reduced replacement costs.
We recently (at work) more than tripled our spend on ruggedised handhelds due the cost of replacing consumer level products previously issued. The fact that they were in the repair loop for less time was a major contributor to the choice.
Quote dylAndroid 5th May 2009, 20:10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Veles
Something my gf helped program is up flying in eurofighters right now, she did it while she was an intern, kind of a scary thought but it's not a flight essential bit of program.

Just wait til they find the easter egg! (hint, to activate it, the pilot goes: pull up, pull up, nose down, nose down, roll left, roll right, roll left, roll right, missiles, afterburner, autopilot!)

More seriously though, I'd like to see some info on computer design for the rest of us, that can better withstand flying back and forth across the country, but doesn't need to survive in hardcore conditions. For example, someone once told me that laptop components are soldered on in a more robust way than on a desktop. Is this actually true / still true? Or more importantly, how much does this sort of thing make a difference?

Seeing an article on how to choose more durable components for an otherwise standard computuer, and how to add more durability through case design features, would be something I'd really appreciate.

Nice article, though!
Quote Top Nurse 5th May 2009, 21:14
I love articles like this.
Quote thehippoz 5th May 2009, 23:42
long time back.. toshiba made some tank like laptops.. my dad used to work for at&t and they needed laptops early on- so they did trials on several different ones.. the test was- drop it from waist high on concrete.. toshibas were the only ones that didn't come apart into pieces- I dunno always thought that was interesting.. bought a toshiba when I got older because of it =]
Quote The_Beast 5th May 2009, 23:53
The Toughbooks are just plain cool, not only do they look like a tank but can be dropped down stair and still boot


They're expensive (and cool) but I don't think I would ever need one
Quote woodshop 6th May 2009, 04:00
Hahah wow.. might want to mention that typing on those MIL keyboards are a PITA to type on.. Man i just hate typing on those things.
Quote Tulatin 7th May 2009, 07:24
Thehippoz, while Toshibas may have exemplary build quality, they really fall behind in another area - I'm not sure why, but every one of them I've worked with - even on fresh installs of windows - are SLOW AS ****.
Quote Xir 7th May 2009, 09:47
My Dad had a military Toshiba in the late eighties... Not toughened though, just one of the first portable computers.
486 with an amber lcd screen ;-)
About as big as an attache-case and a lot heavier

This incredibly expensive piece of kit was used heavily at home...by me playing lemmings :D
Quote Phil Rhodes 7th May 2009, 10:16
I think you'll find the Typhoon uses CPUs of the 1980s because, um, it was actually designed in the 1980s... it's just taken thirty years to get the damn thing together!
Quote Loom 12th May 2009, 16:04
Quote:
Originally Posted by dylAndroid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Veles
Something my gf helped program is up flying in eurofighters right now, she did it while she was an intern, kind of a scary thought but it's not a flight essential bit of program.

Just wait til they find the easter egg! (hint, to activate it, the pilot goes: pull up, pull up, nose down, nose down, roll left, roll right, roll left, roll right, missiles, afterburner, autopilot!)

And the Easter egg is... eject seat!
Quote Spaceraver 12th May 2009, 20:00
*hugs his T60 with magnesium alloy bracing.
All i need now is better batterylife and rubber corners.
Quote mobius9 27th May 2009, 02:43
One of the things that separates the internal structure of a high end ruggedized and a joe schmo company computer is attention to detail. Every computer that is assembled has taken into account usually 5 things.

1) Take into consideration the cable length which you are given to work with, if it is unacceptable, modify and recrimp the cable or create a wire bundle at a non-airflow blocking point

2) Do not block airflow into any heat critical areas of the chassis. Sometimes we do things backwards and use the cable bundles themselves to create walls (especially works well in 1Us) that direct airflow. We also use wire bundles as gaskets to promote fan suction from the air intake to air exhaust. Most of this applies only to the design of rackmounts, unfortunately

3) Make sure all cables of the chassis are providing neutral or positive pressure into their receiving sockets on both ends (if applicable, such as a sata cable).

4) Do not create interference with data carrying cables. Just to be safe, run power and data separate.

5) Make that sh*t look good.


Thats for the wiring, at least.

The idea is, any area where the computer is allowed to fail would be a failure at ruggedization. That's why so many precautionary measures are taken, and also why it can get so expensive. One of the boxes that was made at my work was a rugged tripple folding LCD screen with built in atx system.


- Bobby
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