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Quote liratheal 5th August 2008, 09:16
Is there any reason there are two different brands of 4870?

Nice to see fair pricing for prebuilds - I'm sceptical as to how long they'll last..
Quote badders 5th August 2008, 09:29
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the average bit-tech reader spends eight hours a day using a PC

Okay, who's bringing the average down?
Quote Naberius 5th August 2008, 09:32
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Originally Posted by liratheal
Is there any reason there are two different brands of 4870?

Nice to see fair pricing for prebuilds - I'm sceptical as to how long they'll last..

They are both HIS cards, look at the fans. Sometimes the bundle includes stickers.
Quote Glider 5th August 2008, 09:35
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Originally Posted by badders
Okay, who's bringing the average down?

Probably those with jobs or a life...
Quote liratheal 5th August 2008, 09:39
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Originally Posted by Naberius
They are both HIS cards, look at the fans. Sometimes the bundle includes stickers.

I was just curious as to the fact that one, in the last picture, has a Radeon sticker, and the other doesn't. Didn't know whether they were different models or something.
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Originally Posted by Glider
Probably those with jobs or a life...

How dare they have lives!
Quote Cyber_tech 5th August 2008, 11:13
Hi There!

This is Mike from Cyberpower UK. If anyone has any questions I'd be happy to answer them either here or direct by email as well, michael[at]cyberpowersystem[Dot]co[Dot]uk

@Liratheal they are both HIS cards. One came OEM and had no sticker the other was retail and did so they look different because of that, sorry for any confusion.

Mike
Quote yakyb 5th August 2008, 11:15
when did bit start doing max playable reviews?
Quote liratheal 5th August 2008, 11:15
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Originally Posted by Cyber_tech
Hi There!

This is Mike from Cyberpower UK. If anyone has any questions I'd be happy to answer them either here or direct by email as well, michael[at]cyberpowersystem[Dot]co[Dot]uk

@Liratheal they are both HIS cards. One came OEM and had no sticker the other was retail and did so they look different because of that, sorry for any confusion.

Mike

Ahh.

Fair enough, then :D
Quote Bindibadgi 5th August 2008, 12:21
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Originally Posted by yakyb
when did bit start doing max playable reviews?

Because we've nothing to compare it to directly so we wanted to give you what kind of experience you get when you buy a system like this.
Quote Baz 5th August 2008, 14:47
We're happy to announce that bit-tech readers will be able to get the exact same system we reviewed, including that whopping 4.0GHz warranty guaranteed overclock, for just £999.99. Considering the system was already good value in comparison to self build components, this now means it's a very tempting option for anyone looking for a full system gaming machine.

All you need to do to take advantage of the offer is mention bit-tech when placing your order. The offer will be running for the next six weeks.

Thanks Cyberpower - Nice One!
Quote Cyber_tech 5th August 2008, 15:32
You're welcome :)

Mike
Quote devdevil85 5th August 2008, 15:36
Cyberpower is an awesome company. I purchased my first pre-built PC from them and they sent an upgraded case (by accident idk) and the system's been going for almost 6 years now. I would definitely recommend them. They can be on the high side though on peripherals, so watch out there. Glad to see they're offering quality products and competitive pricing....
Quote Jojii 5th August 2008, 16:52
But the question remains..

Does it blend?
Quote R3veNG 5th August 2008, 19:00
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Originally Posted by Jojii
But the question remains..

Does it blend?

I'm quite sure this pc is too big for a simple blender..

So the REAL question that remains is: "Does it blend the blender?"

R3
Quote p3ri0d 5th August 2008, 19:31
So someone go buy it, and try to blend it then we'll see what blend before the other :P

oh! btw, R3veNG it took me 3 secs, not 7 :P

Actually I think it's a great thing that pc, real good stuff for a real good price ;)
Quote Jasio 5th August 2008, 21:32
Hmm, not sure how prices are generally in the UK, but from what I've seen, Cyberpower's other systems are a tad on the expensive side, custom building is still more affordable. I'm also disappointed by the choices of odd cooling solutions (rather limited) that they offer. No Zalman? No Noctua? Water cooling limited to 1 no-name model/brand? And most of the power supplies (actually from what I can tell, all but the Corsair) are pretty cheap 4-6 rail power supplies, some better single rail solutions would be nice. There is a nice selection of cases however, hard drive and GPU solutions which is convenient. The emphasis on nVidia chipsets is a bit of a turn-off, since they aren't really worth the PCB they're made on (dollar for dollar performance / reliability versus Intel/AMD chipsets).

At least it's not as bad as Alienware, Falcon North-West, Voodoo or Widow PC which just add some shiny paint on a case and claim a $6000 price tag.
Quote wuyanxu 5th August 2008, 22:53
not so keen on PSU, case, CPU cooling, HDD and memory choice, as i've not had any good experience with OCZ memory, and not heard good things on Hyper after Corsair started making Hx620w.

but being a system builder myself, i am very picky. that system is very good value. though could have added £50 for a F1 drive, TRUE as cooler and Corsair Hx620w?

when did Bittech start doing whole system reviews? i thought there's going to be P45 reviews poping up
Quote Jediron 6th August 2008, 06:59
OCZ is great memory, i have never had any issue's with them. Afcource, anyone can have a bad experience with memory, from any brand. The fault could just as well lie with the motherboard in use. So to scrap OCZ from the list is not a goodf idea. OCZ is very populair, an for a good reason; overall they are just plain good.
Quote wuyanxu 6th August 2008, 09:59
OCZ are very, very good at their rated speeds. but any higher, even 50Mhz higher will see them suffer.
Corsair on the other hand, expensive, but 100Mhz higher at stock volts no problem.

that's my experience on Abit iP35 Pro, not a push-over motherboard by any means
Quote naokaji 6th August 2008, 10:47
I have to disagree on the noise part, the fan speed of the 4870's is fixed at a very low % (something in the 18 -22 range) and very silent, only during bootup the fan spins up. other than during those first 2 seconds or so during boot they are very quiet, the noise must be from the other sources (read: too many fans in a crappy case). other than that, nice pc and nice review.
Quote kempez 6th August 2008, 10:56
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Originally Posted by wuyanxu
OCZ are very, very good at their rated speeds. but any higher, even 50Mhz higher will see them suffer.
Corsair on the other hand, expensive, but 100Mhz higher at stock volts no problem.

I have a an 800MHz 4GB OCZ ReaperX kit running at 1100MHz right now at stock volts. OCZ are superb when it comes to overclockable memory - who doesn't remember the DDR1 OCZ Plat rev 2 TCCD?? Awesome stuff. Perhaps you were unlucky?
Quote wuyanxu 6th August 2008, 10:59
just may be OCZ puts very cheap stuff in their cheap Platinum series, while Corsair puts quality stuff even in their cheapest XMS.
Quote kempez 6th August 2008, 12:23
Well I've seen sets of their DDR3 Platinum kits with Micron D9GTR IC's which are used by many manufacturers in their ultra-high end kits so as I said I think you've just had some bad luck
Quote Bindibadgi 6th August 2008, 12:41
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Originally Posted by naokaji
I have to disagree on the noise part, the fan speed of the 4870's is fixed at a very low % (something in the 18 -22 range) and very silent, only during bootup the fan spins up. other than during those first 2 seconds or so during boot they are very quiet, the noise must be from the other sources (read: too many fans in a crappy case). other than that, nice pc and nice review.

With all due respect, there's no such thing as "very silent" it's either silent - as in "inaudible" or it isn't ;)

18-22 is quiet to very quiet, but sub-15ish is going towards true silence.

It's mostly the fans in the case that do a good job of making it vastly intrusive but it needs the airflow to keep the serious overclock, cool.

wuyanxu - that's not really true, both companies buy stuff from the same people so for the most part (although not always) they use very similar or the same stuff. It swings and round-abouts.
Quote trig 6th August 2008, 14:01
hopefully the service there in the uk is better than what we have here. my brother bought one because they were cheaper than what i could do for him, but due to heat issues and a faulty mobo, he had nothing but problems and they were not the most helpful. the company they outsourced their in home warranty service to was garbage, and they ended up just sending him a new mobo which i had to put in for him if he wanted a pc to use for the three weeks it was going to take to get the tech guy over there. in the end, he had a faulty processor as well and after MUCH fighting, he got a refund. i know even lexus makes a lemon, but from the sound of it all, not a route i would go. to each their own though.
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