I can't belive its taken this long to get an IGP to fully decode HD content. I was expecting these sort of results with my nforce 430/6150 and that was over a year ago.
Sounds like a good board, if I can decode HD with this using my current X2 2.2Ghz I'd buy one.
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Originally Posted by article it will also gobble up around 280W of power at peak performance
I've never ever seen that power draw from my PS3 I'd be interested to hear what that number comes from, completely fictional over estimate by at least 100w if my UK 60Gb PS3 is anything to go by, I'm sure a 40Gb with less components would be better still, of course its still its not as low as my HTPC I'll give you that.
Originally Posted by sandys Sounds like a good board, if I can decode HD with this using my current X2 2.2Ghz I'd buy one.
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Originally Posted by article it will also gobble up around 280W of power at peak performance
I've never ever seen that power draw from my PS3 I'd be interested to hear what that number comes from, completely fictional over estimate by at least 100w if my UK 60Gb PS3 is anything to go by, I'm sure a 40Gb with less components would be better still, of course its still its not as low as my HTPC I'll give you that.
That's a worst-case from an early Japanese PS3. Of course, the 40GB UK PS3 will consume less because process technology has improved and there's no PS2 inside it... but it's hard to quantify how much less without having one on hand. One thing I can say is that it won't be as little as 78W, that's for sure.
I want to make a new HTPC and I'm thinking this board might be just the ticket.
What I really want to know, is there any linux-based HTPC software that will take advantage of the features this chipset provides?
I would be REALLY interested in an how-to article by Glider or someone on how to set up one of these as a combined HTPC/file-server.
Especially if there is some kind of software you can use in linux to manually set up things like power profiles so it can suspend itself and wake on LAN, and have things like staggered spin-up of HDDs (though I suspect that's more dependant on the raid card you use for raid 5).
In fact, I'd be so interested, I'd be willing to buy all the parts and ship them to Glider myself for him to investigate and evaluate. :)
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Also, what about video up-scaling?
If I have lower-res video content on my HDD, can this upscale it to 1080p and send it via HDMI?
Or would it struggle/not be any better than the TV doing it?
Originally Posted by Tim S That's a worst-case from an early Japanese PS3. Of course, the 40GB UK PS3 will consume less because process technology has improved and there's no PS2 inside it... but it's hard to quantify how much less without having one on hand. One thing I can say is that it won't be as little as 78W, that's for sure.
Another thing to note is that the Japanese PS3 would run on 100v, where as the UK PS3 would run on 230v, and (from what I've read) the higher voltage would increase the efficiency slightly (1-2%), which in turn should decrease the power consumption slightly. Though, saying that, I'm no expert :D
Originally Posted by airchie What I really want to know, is there any linux-based HTPC software that will take advantage of the features this chipset provides?
Unfortunately, I would imagine that it'll be a while before you see the video acceleration features on Linux. In fact, can you even play Blu-Ray on a linux box?
Fantastic, was this what you were suggesting in that thread I started mid last week?
I've actually been looking for a suitable upgrade for my HTPC anyway, now I just have to convince the missus.
Chipset decided for my HTPC then.... now i am just waiting on the crossfire review as i fancy playing the odd racing game/audiosurf on the media centre. Should be damn nice paired with a passive 3450/3650 i would have thought. Don't think i can justify a 3850 in a HTPC for just the very occasional game.
ive got a be-2350 and the gigabyte 690g board and i had to spurt an extra 60 quid on a fanless 2600xt to get bluray/hddvd to work....
I have to say the cpu/mobo combo has been great and really impressed me with its feature set for such a low price.
having seen this review im quite tempted to get this board instead to keep the powerconsumption that much lower as my hcpc is always on...
Tho i guess it may make sense to wait for the next iteration in the hope that it has proper HD sound built in...
im not sure id build one from scratch again now tho, as a ps3 with playtv would be around the same cost and play proper tv games...
Originally Posted by Tim S That's a worst-case from an early Japanese PS3. Of course, the 40GB UK PS3 will consume less because process technology has improved and there's no PS2 inside it... but it's hard to quantify how much less without having one on hand. One thing I can say is that it won't be as little as 78W, that's for sure.
No, that 289W is the quoted full load figure of the NEW 40GB model launched in the EU. I don't have specs for the "BD Playback only" but the system doesn't use a dedicated processor for Blu playback and it has no sleep states for the Cell afaik other than "idle".
Thing is - you may get Blu to play under linux but having just seen PowerDVD 8's features - I'd want all that extra connectivity.
Hmm, how hard is it to get bluray working in linux?
And using this chipset's power in linux, should that be something that AMD provides drivers for?
Or is it down to software makers (like powerDVD etc)?
Or is it down to the likes of ubuntu to enable support for it?
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Originally Posted by bindi Thing is - you may get Blu to play under linux but having just seen PowerDVD 8's features - I'd want all that extra connectivity.
Can we not have it in linux too though?
Even better, in a specific HTPC distro like mythdora or something?
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If they did HD audio pass-through too, it'd be the perfect motherboard for an HTPC. Not sure I'd get one without though, tbh
So you want a stagnant, single-manufacturer processor market then? Didn't think so... :|
I've never ever seen that power draw from my PS3 I'd be interested to hear what that number comes from, completely fictional over estimate by at least 100w if my UK 60Gb PS3 is anything to go by, I'm sure a 40Gb with less components would be better still, of course its still its not as low as my HTPC I'll give you that.
That's a worst-case from an early Japanese PS3. Of course, the 40GB UK PS3 will consume less because process technology has improved and there's no PS2 inside it... but it's hard to quantify how much less without having one on hand. One thing I can say is that it won't be as little as 78W, that's for sure.
What I really want to know, is there any linux-based HTPC software that will take advantage of the features this chipset provides?
I would be REALLY interested in an how-to article by Glider or someone on how to set up one of these as a combined HTPC/file-server.
Especially if there is some kind of software you can use in linux to manually set up things like power profiles so it can suspend itself and wake on LAN, and have things like staggered spin-up of HDDs (though I suspect that's more dependant on the raid card you use for raid 5).
In fact, I'd be so interested, I'd be willing to buy all the parts and ship them to Glider myself for him to investigate and evaluate. :)
<EDIT>
Also, what about video up-scaling?
If I have lower-res video content on my HDD, can this upscale it to 1080p and send it via HDMI?
Or would it struggle/not be any better than the TV doing it?
Another thing to note is that the Japanese PS3 would run on 100v, where as the UK PS3 would run on 230v, and (from what I've read) the higher voltage would increase the efficiency slightly (1-2%), which in turn should decrease the power consumption slightly. Though, saying that, I'm no expert :D
Very nice, although I'm undecided on whether I'd like a PS3 or one of these.
Actually it's a moot point, as my TV's crap and not HD.
Unfortunately, I would imagine that it'll be a while before you see the video acceleration features on Linux. In fact, can you even play Blu-Ray on a linux box?
EDIT: Apparently you can - link.
I've actually been looking for a suitable upgrade for my HTPC anyway, now I just have to convince the missus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcbGV6Pfb6Q
Biosniper you have a job you bum get it yourself lol
I have to say the cpu/mobo combo has been great and really impressed me with its feature set for such a low price.
having seen this review im quite tempted to get this board instead to keep the powerconsumption that much lower as my hcpc is always on...
Tho i guess it may make sense to wait for the next iteration in the hope that it has proper HD sound built in...
im not sure id build one from scratch again now tho, as a ps3 with playtv would be around the same cost and play proper tv games...
No, that 289W is the quoted full load figure of the NEW 40GB model launched in the EU. I don't have specs for the "BD Playback only" but the system doesn't use a dedicated processor for Blu playback and it has no sleep states for the Cell afaik other than "idle".
Thing is - you may get Blu to play under linux but having just seen PowerDVD 8's features - I'd want all that extra connectivity.
And using this chipset's power in linux, should that be something that AMD provides drivers for?
Or is it down to software makers (like powerDVD etc)?
Or is it down to the likes of ubuntu to enable support for it?
Even better, in a specific HTPC distro like mythdora or something?
The Linux userbase is so absolutely minimal, it's very difficult to justify the expense on coding for it.