Originally Posted by naokaji displayport and hdmi are still a big lie. only one of the cards pictured has one of those fancy nextgen connectors....
HDMI is supported through a dongle that is supplied in the box and DisplayPort is added on a per-SKU basis (because of its lack of prominence in the market at the moment) - I'm pretty sure I mentioned both in the article.
Originally Posted by Tim S HDMI is supported through a dongle that is supplied in the box and DisplayPort is added on a per-SKU basis (because of its lack of prominence in the market at the moment) - I'm pretty sure I mentioned both in the article.
true,
but after all that marketing hype surrounding both connectors i was expecting a far more aggressive approach to get them implemented straight on the back of the cards.
sure, but then what happens when someone with a DVI display wants to connect their monitor? Most people have DVI monitors, so it makes sense to keep dual DVI for the time being on the 3650 and DVI/VGA on the lower-end cards because they're taylored more to the value segment. That said, I want to see VGA disappear of these cards and be replaced by either HDMI or DisplayPort.
Originally Posted by Tim S sure, but then what happens when someone with a DVI display wants to connect their monitor? Most people have DVI monitors, so it makes sense to keep dual DVI for the time being on the 3650 and DVI/VGA on the lower-end cards because they're taylored more to the value segment. That said, I want to see VGA disappear of these cards and be replaced by either HDMI or DisplayPort.
VGA will disappear soon, DVItoVGA connector are available but for the fact more than 95% people are using DVI and VGA displays B)
What I wanted to see was details on the 3870 X2, Tomshardware (I only check it once every couple of weeks) had an article on it and I got to page 5 (of 19) before they pulled it - the title looked promising though.
Originally Posted by Tyinsar What I wanted to see was details on the 3870 X2, Tomshardware (I only check it once every couple of weeks) had an article on it and I got to page 5 (of 19) before they pulled it - the title looked promising though.
Cryptic eh? When might that be announced? Or would the NDA not allow you to disclose that? What does the average NDA allow & disallow? - Can you say: if you're under NDA, what you're under NDA for, when the NDA comes off, ...?
there is a chinese review out on xtremesystems somewhere that shows it outperforms the ultra in everything bar crysis (badly optimised for xfire apparently)
Originally Posted by Tyinsar Cryptic eh? When might that be announced? Or would the NDA not allow you to disclose that? What does the average NDA allow & disallow? - Can you say: if you're under NDA, what you're under NDA for, when the NDA comes off, ...?
heavily depends on the nda... some nda's even forbid you to mention the existance of the nda, while others say you can only publish preaproved info, some say only pictures no benches or whatever the marketing department of a company comes up with.
I'm pretty sure that it would be possible to have a dvi and both hdmi and displayport connector on the back of a single slot card.
but i want to see how well it performs for price/performance with 9600GT, i need a backup PCIe card, hoping to get a PCIe2.0 card before 9800GTX comes out, so i won't loose so much money. and pricing at £50, looks just to be the perfect card to use as i stepping stone
I can understand the purpose of the 3450, it would make a great media centre card, but why the hell are they releasing three low end cards, its hardly like the 3850 and 3870 are top-end cards. They have absolutely nothing at the top end of the performance market.
Originally Posted by Naberius ... its hardly like the 3850 and 3870 are top-end cards. They have absolutely nothing at the top end of the performance market.
Actually if it wasn't for the 8800GT the 3850 & 3870 would be the best price / performance cards - even now they could be, depending on cost, it's a close call.
These had better be cheap. The nVidia 9600GT (according to reports) is almost as fast as a 8800GS. If that card is anything close to the price point of these cards, then for gaming there will be no competition at all.
Originally Posted by Tyinsar Actually if it wasn't for the 8800GT the 3850 & 3870 would be the best price / performance cards - even now they could be, depending on cost, it's a close call.
i think of the 3850's and 3870 and want to compare them to the 9600 pro's ... great gaming cards for the price, but not too extravagant.
i ran a 9600 pro for 2 years before i felt the need to upgrade to my current x850 - and that is just now starting to feel crippled.
The HD3650 performs very well for the price. I have a Powercolor HD3650 Extreme PCS and it looks to be the low(ish) end card that may well sell quite a few. 512mb of DDR3 too :D
Originally Posted by oasked These had better be cheap. The nVidia 9600GT (according to reports) is almost as fast as a 8800GS. If that card is anything close to the price point of these cards, then for gaming there will be no competition at all.
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Look like they are all gunning for HTPC or simple desktop use.
HDMI is supported through a dongle that is supplied in the box and DisplayPort is added on a per-SKU basis (because of its lack of prominence in the market at the moment) - I'm pretty sure I mentioned both in the article.
true,
but after all that marketing hype surrounding both connectors i was expecting a far more aggressive approach to get them implemented straight on the back of the cards.
VGA will disappear soon, DVItoVGA connector are available but for the fact more than 95% people are using DVI and VGA displays B)
Yes - it's big and red. ;)
heavily depends on the nda... some nda's even forbid you to mention the existance of the nda, while others say you can only publish preaproved info, some say only pictures no benches or whatever the marketing department of a company comes up with.
I'm pretty sure that it would be possible to have a dvi and both hdmi and displayport connector on the back of a single slot card.
Because they were confidential until AMD removed the embargo today. :)
but i want to see how well it performs for price/performance with 9600GT, i need a backup PCIe card, hoping to get a PCIe2.0 card before 9800GTX comes out, so i won't loose so much money. and pricing at £50, looks just to be the perfect card to use as i stepping stone
i think of the 3850's and 3870 and want to compare them to the 9600 pro's ... great gaming cards for the price, but not too extravagant.
i ran a 9600 pro for 2 years before i felt the need to upgrade to my current x850 - and that is just now starting to feel crippled.
Any chance of getting an 8800GS review?