Originally Posted by Woodstock does this include the newer sata optical drives?
i believe so, but like an IDE CD Rom, there will also be a /dev/sdX for the drive as well
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Of course, we also have the most used command in the history of networking - “ping”. A difference to the Windows counterpart is that ping in Linux won't stop until you stop it, through the “<CTRL> + c” keystroke.
Its different by default, but on windows if you
ping ad.dr.es.ss -t
it works the same way as on Linux
I also think a quick mention of the --help switch would have been a good idea, man is much more comprehensive, but most of the time, i find its overkill, --help is a much easier way to find what your looking for
Definitely a good guide though, and there are a couple of titbits in there even for someone who has used Linux quite a bit (like me :p)
P.S. i think you should redo your server part 1 guide in the CLI, using the ubuntu server (or alternate ?) CD, especially the bit on using VNC (Xauth on CLI i believe) instead of having to run a full blown desktop manager :)
A pretty good guide, but there's definitely a few things needed in part two:
pipes
which
bash history, and searching through it (probably the only thing that's easier in ksh)
killall
grep
lynx
and maybe an explanation of ^C/^Z/jobs/etc
Originally Posted by riggs Again, another great little Linux article...thanks!
A question for you Glider; if you had to recommend just one Linux reference book, which would it be?
user@host:~# man <command>
user@host:~# apropos <word related to what you wish to do>
www.tldp.org - The Linux Documentation Project, some things are out-dated either because they're no-longer/poorly maintained or the software or method has been deprecated by something newer and hopefully better :) www.howtoforge.org - Good guides on alot of real-world stuff. http://ubuntuforums.org/ - Helpful, if a little ubuntu-specific. http://windows-get.sourceforge.net/ - you'll like this
Debian is GNU/Linux. Militant hippies on a mission. Only includes free software by default, though things called apt repositories can make other stuff available.
Which is what Ubuntu have done, with funding from Canonical. Emo. FreeBSD is cool. Great handbook. Loads of stuff available, everything is compiled for your machine. Gentoo is the Linux implementation of the FreeBSD style. OpenBSD is ninja. Gifted OpenSSH to the world. Praise be Theo de Raadt
There are loads more distros, for other platforms aside from x86/x86_64. http://distrowatch.com/
Originally Posted by Woodstock is there a command to display battery info (time remaining, pluged in, percent remaining etc), if so please share the love
Those two should give you the basic info, I know that my battery should run at 4300mAh capacity but is actually running at 1460mAh (really need to buy a new one!)
There is also a nice program I think might make it a bit easier for Linux CLI newbies - Midnight Commander. Being the original Norton Commander clone (well, not purely CLI), it saved my ..... (fill in what suits your imagination) a couple of times, when the X server wouldn't start.
I understood these commands perfectly but I am not that far removed from a newbie. I can imagine how hard some of this article would be to follow for someone completely new. Great to see a Linux article, looking forward to more.
as powerful as a CLI like bash is filemanagement in it never fails to drive me absolutely spare :p
right now i have 3 explorer windows open
fileserver, local incoming and other
drag and drop (especially with right click + drag) >>>>>> cli commands for 90% of stuff imo
im quite comfortable with bash when i use linux, but good god do i miss windows explorer :(
By the time you have opened explorer and 'browsed' to the right directory I've copied (maybe renamed if I'm in a good mood) an entire directory to somewhere else :) But I get your point, sometimes a GUI comes in handy. Why doesn't Bash completion work in GUI ;)
but i already have the windows open
and the commonly used trees are already expanded, its just 3 clicks, one to select the folder one to drag and one to select copy/move/shortcut if neccesary
90% of my file management tasks are moving stuff from local incoming to fileserver
its vastly easier to click one folder, right click + drag to the correct folder on the other explorer window (open side-by-side) and move it
edit: also it drives me nuts not having a graphical representation of my whole folder structure
i may know it inside out but i still dislike having no graphical version
i got lost browsing my fileserver last time i had linux up and running, which was ridiculous :p
not even close to being the same as having a graphical tree view of your folder structure :p
edit:
part of it might just be i really dislike the linux default directory structure
i think for all windows' faults having all your system files in /windows and all your apps in subfolders of /program files and all your datafile collected together is much neater and much more logical than having all your config files for everything under /etc/ and having all your binaries under /bin and the like
and i know there are technical reasons for it and i have gotten used to it, doesnt really bother me as much as it used to
still cant help thinking its very unintuitive
Actually it isn't... Your system is /, and under that you have all the things, sorted by category... Configs in 1 place (system wide ones), shared stuff, logs,... For instance /home, all the userdirs. The way it's under Linux you just need to mount a partition/device under /home and all the user data goes on a separate (safe) device. No 10 drives/partitions, that seem apart, but actually are all in the same system...
Also from a multi-user, security stance, it's logical to have the things users can alter (/home) together, system settings (/etc) together, libraries (/usr/share) together...
No need to allow users global writing privileges to mess up add on software (like it's needed mostly in Windows, to have a sort of usable system)
Great guide, finding myself using my win box less and less. htop is fantastic a lot of this I had forgotten in my time away from Linux. The only problem I have now is playing around with Nomachine and getting Webmin so I can access from XP without the security issues. The bash tutorial was also excellent. Please keep these coming Glider. Also thanks for all your help when I have had "issues/brain farts"
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Replyping ad.dr.es.ss -t
it works the same way as on Linux
I also think a quick mention of the --help switch would have been a good idea, man is much more comprehensive, but most of the time, i find its overkill, --help is a much easier way to find what your looking for
Definitely a good guide though, and there are a couple of titbits in there even for someone who has used Linux quite a bit (like me :p)
P.S. i think you should redo your server part 1 guide in the CLI, using the ubuntu server (or alternate ?) CD, especially the bit on using VNC (Xauth on CLI i believe) instead of having to run a full blown desktop manager :)
pipes
which
bash history, and searching through it (probably the only thing that's easier in ksh)
killall
grep
lynx
and maybe an explanation of ^C/^Z/jobs/etc
You must take a look at Ruby, it's probably the nicest language to code in ever.
user@host:~# man <command>
user@host:~# apropos <word related to what you wish to do>
www.tldp.org - The Linux Documentation Project, some things are out-dated either because they're no-longer/poorly maintained or the software or method has been deprecated by something newer and hopefully better :)
www.howtoforge.org - Good guides on alot of real-world stuff.
http://ubuntuforums.org/ - Helpful, if a little ubuntu-specific.
http://windows-get.sourceforge.net/ - you'll like this
Debian is GNU/Linux. Militant hippies on a mission. Only includes free software by default, though things called apt repositories can make other stuff available.
Which is what Ubuntu have done, with funding from Canonical. Emo.
FreeBSD is cool. Great handbook. Loads of stuff available, everything is compiled for your machine.
Gentoo is the Linux implementation of the FreeBSD style.
OpenBSD is ninja. Gifted OpenSSH to the world. Praise be Theo de Raadt
There are loads more distros, for other platforms aside from x86/x86_64.
http://distrowatch.com/
www.bash.org - Funny. Join in the fun.
Read a wiki on the history of UNIX and computing.
Now repeat your wiki-ing here.
Book.
Watch Revolution OS, or buy it.
Thanks for the article I've dabbled a bit in the CLI I love apt-get install over synaptic install so I must be on the right track :)
Those two should give you the basic info, I know that my battery should run at 4300mAh capacity but is actually running at 1460mAh (really need to buy a new one!)
There is also a nice program I think might make it a bit easier for Linux CLI newbies - Midnight Commander. Being the original Norton Commander clone (well, not purely CLI), it saved my ..... (fill in what suits your imagination) a couple of times, when the X server wouldn't start.
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right now i have 3 explorer windows open
fileserver, local incoming and other
drag and drop (especially with right click + drag) >>>>>> cli commands for 90% of stuff imo
im quite comfortable with bash when i use linux, but good god do i miss windows explorer :(
and the commonly used trees are already expanded, its just 3 clicks, one to select the folder one to drag and one to select copy/move/shortcut if neccesary
90% of my file management tasks are moving stuff from local incoming to fileserver
its vastly easier to click one folder, right click + drag to the correct folder on the other explorer window (open side-by-side) and move it
edit: also it drives me nuts not having a graphical representation of my whole folder structure
i may know it inside out but i still dislike having no graphical version
i got lost browsing my fileserver last time i had linux up and running, which was ridiculous :p
Personally, i think both have merits, but its nice to have the option of the command line, something windows doesn't give you
not even close to being the same as having a graphical tree view of your folder structure :p
edit:
part of it might just be i really dislike the linux default directory structure
i think for all windows' faults having all your system files in /windows and all your apps in subfolders of /program files and all your datafile collected together is much neater and much more logical than having all your config files for everything under /etc/ and having all your binaries under /bin and the like
and i know there are technical reasons for it and i have gotten used to it, doesnt really bother me as much as it used to
still cant help thinking its very unintuitive
Also from a multi-user, security stance, it's logical to have the things users can alter (/home) together, system settings (/etc) together, libraries (/usr/share) together...
No need to allow users global writing privileges to mess up add on software (like it's needed mostly in Windows, to have a sort of usable system)
But that's just my opinion
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