Just when I thought I was safe from Judge Judy with the TV turned off during the day and browsing the web instead, but I could not have been more wrong :O as Judy penetrates even Bit-Tech
As or the review ;) good review as always, am happy to find out that there is a PCI-E tv card, dual tunner card at that, which is handy. As I have somewhat exhausted all my PCI slots (danm those dual slot gfx cards).
It is somewhat a shame that they have taken what can be a great product, then failed to deliver on support and drivers, with drivers for XP editions of media center only? Maybe vista has the drivers built in already ? :?
These driver and support issues are what put me off from purchasing such a product, the hardware ticks all the boxes i require, the software according to the review, dont even check a single box, as I am inclinded to use the Media center in Vista Ultimate 64bit.
Originally Posted by steveo_mcg Damm i've been looking for a product like this for well all of a few days now. But i suppose i'll have to keep on looking.
Aye, feel that :(
If you find one thats pci-e and actually has drivers and support, id be interested to know.
Its reviews like these from Bit-Tech that prevent me from having a lot of pritty looking door stops and paper weights ;) ;)
We tried the card under Vista initially, then XP Pro and then XP MCE 2005... the Vista drivers definitely aren't built in. It's a shame because otherwise it's a pretty good product when you put it in the right environment.
Hauppage Nova-T-500 is better in every respect, it cost me around £50 and works flawlessly in Vista and XP, Vista 64-bit as well as the 32-bit varients, windows update finds the drivers first time and it works flawlessly with Media Centre. Basically it urinates all over this offering :D
Originally Posted by Mother-Gooser Hauppage Nova-T-500 is better in every respect, it cost me around £50 and works flawlessly in Vista and XP, Vista 64-bit as well as the 32-bit varients, windows update finds the drivers first time and it works flawlessly with Media Centre. Basically it urinates all over this offering :D
Yer is a nice card, my freind uses it in his PC, tho he has some free PCI slots, unlike me :'(
may just go for a USB stick version, cant be much worse than the PCI card variants, can they?
Have a bottle of whisky and a bottle of vodka and a six pack of beers. Sit down for a Jeremy Kyle marathon.
Everytime someone comes on stage wearing more than two pieces of obvious bling or has their mouth open for more than five seconds without speaking, have a swig of beer.
Everytime Jeremy sits on the edge of the stage, have a shot of vodka.
Everytime Jeremy talks about his ex wife, have a shot of whisky.
Everytime Jeremy uses the phrase "There are kids involved here!", have a shot of everything.
Originally Posted by Delphium Yer is a nice card, my freind uses it in his PC, tho he has some free PCI slots, unlike me :'(
may just go for a USB stick version, cant be much worse than the PCI card variants, can they?
Just had a quick read, that 500 is basically two usb based cards and a host controller so you could always just find out what the chips on the card are and get the usb variant. On that note does any one use a usb tv card, are they as good as pci based cards?
Originally Posted by Mother-Gooser Hauppage Nova-T-500 is better in every respect, it cost me around £50 and works flawlessly in Vista and XP, Vista 64-bit as well as the 32-bit varients, windows update finds the drivers first time and it works flawlessly with Media Centre. Basically it urinates all over this offering :D
it also works great in MythTV without much fiddling. The Kworld card looks "Vaguely revolting." compared to the Nova-T-500
Originally Posted by steveo_mcg Just had a quick read, that 500 is basically two usb based cards and a host controller so you could always just find out what the chips on the card are and get the usb variant. On that note does any one use a usb tv card, are they as good as pci based cards?
I have just bought a nova t 500 too. Love it. I previously had a kworld card and vowed never again to buy one! Absolute crap. Drivers didn't work, the website was appalling, basically they are a joke. I was happy when it burnt out (yes spontaneously combusting tv cards do exist!)
Personally, I prefer the Ati Theatre 550/650 Pro Pci-e (Yes, they do exist!) http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-319-1.htm
Perhaps, you should try comparing the two? It'd be interesting to see how the Vista situation works out with the ATi card.
Also of note on the Pci-e 1x front: Cat’s Eye 164e,
On the review the reviewer stated he could not get teletext, he couldn't get teletext because its not broadcast on UK digital dvb-t (freeview). The UK use mheg5 standard for interactive stuff which is not widely supported there is only one windows software that supports it to my knowledge and that nebula's digitv application. This is must be marketed to asia and the most of europe that use the mhg standard that looks like teletext.
Also I found driver version V1.0.2.0228 which are suppose to work for vista on the kworld site although not easy to find, obviously if these are your drivers you can forget what I said. Having owned a few tv cards I can say kworld are poor on driver updates and really bad to get working from my experience but you can say that about many tv card manufacturers.
A few things I would like to say if you get a nova-t 500 watch out if you use linux as there is a new version known as a nova-t 500td which uses the same name as the old one on the box but I believe there are no linux drivers yet. Also nova-t 500 is pci card not pci-e, as someone else stated that its really 2 usb tuners on a pci card which has caused alot people on the huappauge forums problems with standby/wake up issues and random BSOD, but the newer version is suppose to be a proper pci card product.
Originally Posted by herbs On the review the reviewer stated he could not get teletext, he couldn't get teletext because its not broadcast on UK digital dvb-t (freeview). The Uk use mheg5 standard for interactive stuff which is not widely supported there is only one windows software that supports it to my knowledge and that nebula's digitv application. Also I found driver version V1.0.2.0228 which are suppose to work for vista on the kworld site although not easy to find, obviously if these are your drivers you can forget what I said. Having owned a few tv cards I can say kworld are poor on driver updates and really bad to get working from my experience but you can say that about many tv card manufacturers.
A few things I would like to say if you get a nova-t 500 watch out if you use linux as there is a new version known as a nova-t 500td which uses the same name as the old one on the box but I believe there are no linux drivers yet. Also nova-t 500 is pci card not pci-e, as someone else stated that its really 2 usb tuners on a pci card which has caused alot people on the huappauge forums problems with standby/wake up issues and random BSOD, but the newer version is suppose to be a proper pci card product.
Cheers for the info on that - I will confirm with Tim tomorrow where he found the Vista drivers for this product, as it was he who bought it to my attention.
EDIT: He found them at Nodevice.com, apparently. That where you got them?
You like Simon the Sorceror, going by your av headline? Good man, excellent games.
"Both the sensor and the aerial plug directly into the card via the pack of the PC"
Shouldnt that be "back" of the PC?
okay with that aside this is a real shame, Im building an HTPC and it would be nice to use those PCI-E slots, oh well I guess I will keep looking around and see what crosses my path, I may still give them a shot if I can find a place that sells it with a responsible return policy ^_^
Oh and I might have over looked it but does it support HD?
I found this TV Card and it also uses PCI-E x1 and it looks promising would be nice to see this card get reviewed and then compared
AVerMedia MTVPEMCER PCI-Express x1 Interface Video Device http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815100014
Comments 1 to 25 of 31
That's just fantastic. That's like "partially disgusting," or "fractionally engorged."
Partial extremity. Outstanding!
Phil
As or the review ;) good review as always, am happy to find out that there is a PCI-E tv card, dual tunner card at that, which is handy. As I have somewhat exhausted all my PCI slots (danm those dual slot gfx cards).
It is somewhat a shame that they have taken what can be a great product, then failed to deliver on support and drivers, with drivers for XP editions of media center only? Maybe vista has the drivers built in already ? :?
These driver and support issues are what put me off from purchasing such a product, the hardware ticks all the boxes i require, the software according to the review, dont even check a single box, as I am inclinded to use the Media center in Vista Ultimate 64bit.
Aye, feel that :(
If you find one thats pci-e and actually has drivers and support, id be interested to know.
Its reviews like these from Bit-Tech that prevent me from having a lot of pritty looking door stops and paper weights ;) ;)
This one doesn't even look pretty
Yer is a nice card, my freind uses it in his PC, tho he has some free PCI slots, unlike me :'(
may just go for a USB stick version, cant be much worse than the PCI card variants, can they?
Have a bottle of whisky and a bottle of vodka and a six pack of beers. Sit down for a Jeremy Kyle marathon.
Everytime someone comes on stage wearing more than two pieces of obvious bling or has their mouth open for more than five seconds without speaking, have a swig of beer.
Everytime Jeremy sits on the edge of the stage, have a shot of vodka.
Everytime Jeremy talks about his ex wife, have a shot of whisky.
Everytime Jeremy uses the phrase "There are kids involved here!", have a shot of everything.
Be wasted withing ten minutes!
'Nuff said.
:)
Just had a quick read, that 500 is basically two usb based cards and a host controller so you could always just find out what the chips on the card are and get the usb variant. On that note does any one use a usb tv card, are they as good as pci based cards?
Still saving up for the Nova-T 500 (God, I wish my original Nova had x64 drivers).
it also works great in MythTV without much fiddling. The Kworld card looks "Vaguely revolting." compared to the Nova-T-500
Oh really? Cool, ill check that out :D
http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-319-1.htm
Perhaps, you should try comparing the two? It'd be interesting to see how the Vista situation works out with the ATi card.
Also of note on the Pci-e 1x front: Cat’s Eye 164e,
Also I found driver version V1.0.2.0228 which are suppose to work for vista on the kworld site although not easy to find, obviously if these are your drivers you can forget what I said. Having owned a few tv cards I can say kworld are poor on driver updates and really bad to get working from my experience but you can say that about many tv card manufacturers.
A few things I would like to say if you get a nova-t 500 watch out if you use linux as there is a new version known as a nova-t 500td which uses the same name as the old one on the box but I believe there are no linux drivers yet. Also nova-t 500 is pci card not pci-e, as someone else stated that its really 2 usb tuners on a pci card which has caused alot people on the huappauge forums problems with standby/wake up issues and random BSOD, but the newer version is suppose to be a proper pci card product.
Cheers for the info on that - I will confirm with Tim tomorrow where he found the Vista drivers for this product, as it was he who bought it to my attention.
EDIT: He found them at Nodevice.com, apparently. That where you got them?
You like Simon the Sorceror, going by your av headline? Good man, excellent games.
"Both the sensor and the aerial plug directly into the card via the pack of the PC"
Shouldnt that be "back" of the PC?
okay with that aside this is a real shame, Im building an HTPC and it would be nice to use those PCI-E slots, oh well I guess I will keep looking around and see what crosses my path, I may still give them a shot if I can find a place that sells it with a responsible return policy ^_^
Oh and I might have over looked it but does it support HD?
and I found the US Price of $86.99 from NewEgg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815260003
granted its not the same card that was reviewed but it uses the PCI-E x1 slot so I figured it was close enough :)
I found this TV Card and it also uses PCI-E x1 and it looks promising would be nice to see this card get reviewed and then compared
AVerMedia MTVPEMCER PCI-Express x1 Interface Video Device
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815100014