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DougEdey 20th March 2007, 17:40 Quote
Big interest in the Avermedia box!
David_Fitzy 20th March 2007, 18:15 Quote
2000W! maybe nvidia's planning on octuple SLI :(

I can see the LED message CPU fan being removed and attached to the front of a few rigs
rowin4kicks 20th March 2007, 18:19 Quote
wow 10 sata ports and 3 ide ports that is alot of drives!
although sata raid controllers probably would provide more function, this could be a cheaper alternative to raid setups maybe?

anyways nice report of the show guys looks like you got alot of indepth stuff thanks!
Ramble 20th March 2007, 18:48 Quote
Some awesome stuff there.
Won't be cheap though...
DarkLord7854 20th March 2007, 19:13 Quote
That V1 cooler is rather interesting, wonder how well it performs
Tyr 20th March 2007, 19:29 Quote
Wow, a notebook X-Fi. I'd live more details on that!
Snaek 20th March 2007, 20:02 Quote
http://www.bit-tech.net/content_images/cebit_2007_bit_hardware_roundup/alb-p35-1.jpg

Does that motherboard have two ATX power connectors? I'm scared.
trig 20th March 2007, 20:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854
That V1 cooler is rather interesting, wonder how well it performs

exactly what i was thinking...
Kipman725 20th March 2007, 21:09 Quote
you know creative are full of ****. They said the same thing about the transision from ISA to PCI (Ie it was only rearly a graphics interface) then when sound cards started to come out for pci they bought another companies sound card up and released it as there own while they franticaly worked on a card.

with the release of the PCI-E asus card there argument has already been shown to be flawed?
Woodstock 20th March 2007, 21:25 Quote
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Unfortunately there was no live demonstration, probably because they didn't want passers by to get sucked in and spat out the other end
more likely they couldnt find anything that required it to be run
and this looks like the perfect match for a htpc Gigabyte GA-MA69G-S3, any idea on the price
Gravemind123 20th March 2007, 22:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by Snaek
http://www.bit-tech.net/content_images/cebit_2007_bit_hardware_roundup/alb-p35-1.jpg

Does that motherboard have two ATX power connectors? I'm scared.

Exactly what I was thinking! Can anyone enlighten me as to what's going on there?
samkiller42 20th March 2007, 22:40 Quote
Nice round off guys, as always.

Sam
Woodstock 20th March 2007, 22:50 Quote
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. It’s certainly an impressive platform but it's questionable whether it still has a future once native quad-core Barcelona hits later this yea

would it be possible to run duel K8l on this? thou 8 core is past overkill, it would be interstng system
OremLK 20th March 2007, 23:27 Quote
Ugh, those P35 boards. Why do manufacturers keep laying out SLI/Crossfire boards this way? You're forced to block off one if not both of the PCI slots, while there's a surplus of extra room in between the two 16x PCIe slots. If they'd just lay things out better, they could maximize the number of usable slots.
Tulatin 21st March 2007, 01:12 Quote
You mean like having a layout as follows

PCI-E X1/Audio
PCI
PCI-E x16
PCI-E x1
PCI
PCI-E x16
PCI-E x1
r4tch3t 21st March 2007, 01:29 Quote
Do my eyes deceive me or is that a low profile duel tuner? Nice.
Nice round up.
geek1017 21st March 2007, 05:40 Quote
Please enlighten us as to why that Albatron board has two power connectors.

I can't wait until all this new tech comes to market.
At least it will drive prices down on the current stuff.
Jipa 21st March 2007, 06:34 Quote
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Originally Posted by Tile
I like the AMD's DTX factor. It is way better than Intel's BTX because it keeps the tried and tested airflow layout of the ATX standard.

Well obviously BTX can't use the same "tried and tested" airflow-layout as it's main goal is to improve the ATX's airflow! :(

The mini-ITX AM2-board looks damn hot, shame it's so expensive.. Also ofc a PCI-e 16x would be awesome, but I kinda understand why it doesn't have one.

The main trend this year seems to be HDMI-connections on integrated graphic solutions... As well as DVIs. That's nice.

And about the 10 s-ata 3 IDE monster. At first it seems like a great idea, finally enough S-ATA ports. But it just makes me wonder the performance compared to dedicated raid controller.. And also who the hell came up with the idea of the IDEs?
OremLK 21st March 2007, 07:24 Quote
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Originally Posted by Tulatin
You mean like having a layout as follows

PCI-E X1/Audio
PCI
PCI-E x16
PCI-E x1
PCI
PCI-E x16
PCI-E x1

That would be just about perfect. The one I really don't understand is the Albatron P35 board with no PCI-E 1x slots at all and is still laid out so that the PCI slots will probably get blocked off if you go SLI
Mankz 21st March 2007, 08:00 Quote
Very nice over-view as allways Bit-tech!
yakyb 21st March 2007, 09:39 Quote
i like the look of teh watercooled p6n (with warranty) anyidea on whether the tubing sizes will be interchangable also what was the projected price on this as water blocks are very expensive parts
Bindibadgi 21st March 2007, 09:43 Quote
Right, plenty of questions to answer :D

1) QuadFX + Barcelona? Possibly, if they are released on AM2 rather than AM2+.

2) Albatron P35: I didn't even notice! LOL! I'd imagine it's a tech demo since P35s are a while off yet. There's no way that board needs two ATX sockets.

3) I've got no more details on the notebook X-Fi. I'd imagine it's the equivalent to the non-hardware accelerated £50 PCI-E solution that still has the 24bit crystalliser.

As for PCI to PCI-Express conversion, I don't think they are necessarily ********ting: PCI-Express *is* tailored towards high bandwidth, larger packets and Hyper Transport is tailored to smaller, more frequent trips. For a hardware solution, it's harder because you'd have to go back and completely engineer the silicon rather than something that palms data off to the CPU. Asus' solution is CPU based also, so it doesn't really compare. Having said that, Creative is a massive company, and I don't think hardware engineers know how to write Vista drivers somehow.

4) The watercooled board is an EVGA 680i SLI. It uses the German standard 8mm (iirc) thin hose, low flow design. I doubt it's interchangable unless you want to void the warranty.
Dr. Strangelove 21st March 2007, 14:21 Quote
Did you get any idea of the price on the Ramdisk thingy? probably to expensive anyway...:(

Nice roundup guys, I presume there was a mod contest and that you will show us pictures of that at some point?????
TimB 21st March 2007, 15:40 Quote
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To power it, it has not one but two power plugs
That because a standard 15AMP plug couldn't provide enough power (in the US at least). 110/120volts times 15amps equals only 1650 to 1800 watts. You'd have to plug it in to two seperate plugs running off different breakers! Thats more power than my welder takes!
Bindibadgi 21st March 2007, 15:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove
Did you get any idea of the price on the Ramdisk thingy? probably to expensive anyway...:(

Nice roundup guys, I presume there was a mod contest and that you will show us pictures of that at some point?????

The CeBIT mods article is penciled in for next week, but as usual things are subject to change round here.
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