Originally Posted by Jokkocze That looks really, really loud :|
It's one of the quietest machines we've had in the office. All of the fans run at 4v at default... occasionally they'll get up to 7v if you've got a warm room.
It would be nice if these loud-whiners could read the chapter of the noise before commenting here.. It's rather clearly stated in the review that the rig is very quiet. The price tag is just ridiculous, I wonder if someone actually buys these thing..
Why is it a disgrace? It's simple, inexpensive, does the job, and will never be seen from the outside of the case. It won't deteriorate and fall out until well after the system is second-rate, so what's the problem?
More to the point, what should they have done instead?
One of my machines here is made by vadim, they are outstanding in everyway, they hit the nail on the head, i found them so nice the folks there, that i actually felt guilty, to ask for a change in my order like i was messing them about.
To the person complaining about the residue... these guys have a large build list to get through, and it would not be visible from the outside :D so its not a problem :|
theres a large margin between people who do it every day for a company, and people with all the time in the world for something which isn't making them money....
Originally Posted by Mighty Yoshimi One of my machines here is made by vadim, they are outstanding in everyway, they hit the nail on the head, i found them so nice the folks there, that i actually felt guilty, to ask for a change in my order like i was messing them about.
To the person complaining about the residue... these guys have a large build list to get through, and it would not be visible from the outside :D so its not a problem :|
theres a large margin between people who do it every day for a company, and people with all the time in the world for something which isn't making them money....
QFT. I tried to translate in the review the differenc between modders and companies building things and Vadim try to achieve both. Considering other "modded" things from companies that have passed our desks are far inferior, to still make money on it and make it look good from the outside to anyone other than us is doing something right. The guys on here who make the A1 mods spend in excess of £10k (Orac in excess of 20+++) and months/years to get it perfect. Not 15 days.
Does outsourcing some pre-designed watercuts entail a modded case???
Fair enough the WC n cable routing is finished to a high standard and some planning has gone into it... But givin that the case itself near enough std. Getting the panels cut and using sealant to stick on some plexi n mesh.. 2 days max. The interior would take up more time as would testing n clocking but the fact that its not strictly a one off means that they've done the interior before so all the kinks/problems should be ironed out n its a straight forward process..
I don't think the sealant is a problem.. its the finish of it that is.. It should be smooth the whole way round. Lick your finger and run it around the sealant n you'll get a smooth finish on it.
The only thing that really gets me is the cuts, the alu on that case is quite thick, where its cut the alu is bare... for £5k+ i'd want that sorted.. It would mean re-anodising the case but if ur spending that much.....
Not modded. just custom, rofl lol, now stop slaggin cos the workers at vadim, if told were to make custom cases, they would make you whining, kindergarten children look, like sissies having a hissie fit in mid bleaque winter.
so learn about how a business functions and come back.
Bindi, knows how they work, read, and interpret what he says cos tbh, you nit picky *******s, its jealousy to me what i think you feel. :)
you whining folk, obviously aren't in any position of control in a comany, swinburn, appreciates the effort, and knows the difference.
My regards go to him and the team, who might say whoa its expenisve, but i'd give my first child for service like vadim...
Damn that's like $10,000 in USD. For $10,000 I'd think someone would want something that nobody else could ever have without copying it. I think that's a good deal because it has the warranty. The watercooling is nice too. It's just alot of money to throw down on a pc. Plus watercooling isn't necessary on a pc of that calibre. Of course neither is quad-core or sli
Can everyone please stop saying it's too expensive. It's not marketed for any of you.
It's aimed at a (rich) person who don't have the skills/drive to mod a case.
Most of us on this forum build our own systems and mod them to reflect our own creativeness. So naturally a computer which comes pre-modded doesn't appeal to us. You could argue that it's technically a stock case as it's bought as is at retail.
For people who have an extra £1000 and no time/skill to create a case then this is ideal. The extra £1000 on top of parts would seem is enough for this company to make a profit from without alienating too many customers.
Christ i don't even remember posting that last comment, oh well :), rough night, absolutely i agree that they didn't do it for the hell of it, it serves a purpose, and... the only part which is done for the hell of it, is the case, not needed, but its sexy, all the same :)
i don't understand why he says of that calibre like its a duron or something
Originally Posted by David_Fitzy Can everyone please stop saying it's too expensive. It's not marketed for any of you.
It's aimed at a (rich) person who don't have the skills/drive to mod a case.
I know I'm a n00b at these forums but saw this and just had to agree.
It even says in the article
Quote:
Vadim Computers isnt targeting those that like to mod their own PC, the company is targeting end users that dont have the time, tools and skill to create their very own Orac³.
my initial reaction to this rig was ' '
I for one, will only criticise a system like this when I know I can build better
Until then
Originally Posted by Techno-Dann One quick note: The Lian-li V-series cases are not BTX. BTX is a totally different form factor, not just ATX upside-down.
i really like the inverted ATX design, cards which would be near the bottom of the case are then at the top, great for those motherboards which would have your gfx card vacuuming the case
However it doesn't make the wires stretch across the board, and your PSU needs longer wires to reach too
Originally Posted by DLoney awesome review.
Any chance of more images (with unshrunk vers.) in future reviews. One of the things (IMO) that really sets Bit-Tech apart.
just wanted to say that tho' I would not pay that much, if I was going to the hot glue wwould really put me off..
I'm looking to have "click for big" images in every review in the future - I'm just waiting on the coders to develop an image gallery (that readers can browse through). We're shooting all of the product shots with a Canon 10D, so it's not like we're short on image quality/resolution. :)
Tim, have you still got that in the bit-labs? Or more to the point, will you be able to retest once the new forceware drivers are out? I guess you want to do it anyway to see what it is really capable of, just thought i'd mention it.
Originally Posted by Mother-Gooser Tim, have you still got that in the bit-labs? Or more to the point, will you be able to retest once the new forceware drivers are out? I guess you want to do it anyway to see what it is really capable of, just thought i'd mention it.
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Thats the quote of the review for me... Oh to have £5,000+.. not for a pc, just to have it :D
Realistically its £6600 when u add ur peripherals.. Thats just under 10,000 to me!!!! Insanity....
Sam
More to the point, what should they have done instead?
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/8990/insidepanel2jh1.jpg
Ask any modder with an ounce of skill to do that and i'm sure it would be done cleanly without any residue showing.
man if i'd spend that much $ on a rig.......
but the wiring and tubing looks real tidy but i think it would be hell to replace or do some maintenance in there......
Custom work is expensive... :D
To the person complaining about the residue... these guys have a large build list to get through, and it would not be visible from the outside :D so its not a problem :|
theres a large margin between people who do it every day for a company, and people with all the time in the world for something which isn't making them money....
QFT. I tried to translate in the review the differenc between modders and companies building things and Vadim try to achieve both. Considering other "modded" things from companies that have passed our desks are far inferior, to still make money on it and make it look good from the outside to anyone other than us is doing something right. The guys on here who make the A1 mods spend in excess of £10k (Orac in excess of 20+++) and months/years to get it perfect. Not 15 days.
Fair enough the WC n cable routing is finished to a high standard and some planning has gone into it... But givin that the case itself near enough std. Getting the panels cut and using sealant to stick on some plexi n mesh.. 2 days max. The interior would take up more time as would testing n clocking but the fact that its not strictly a one off means that they've done the interior before so all the kinks/problems should be ironed out n its a straight forward process..
I don't think the sealant is a problem.. its the finish of it that is.. It should be smooth the whole way round. Lick your finger and run it around the sealant n you'll get a smooth finish on it.
The only thing that really gets me is the cuts, the alu on that case is quite thick, where its cut the alu is bare... for £5k+ i'd want that sorted.. It would mean re-anodising the case but if ur spending that much.....
so learn about how a business functions and come back.
Bindi, knows how they work, read, and interpret what he says cos tbh, you nit picky *******s, its jealousy to me what i think you feel. :)
you whining folk, obviously aren't in any position of control in a comany, swinburn, appreciates the effort, and knows the difference.
My regards go to him and the team, who might say whoa its expenisve, but i'd give my first child for service like vadim...
Can't be worse then Alienware...
It's aimed at a (rich) person who don't have the skills/drive to mod a case.
Most of us on this forum build our own systems and mod them to reflect our own creativeness. So naturally a computer which comes pre-modded doesn't appeal to us. You could argue that it's technically a stock case as it's bought as is at retail.
For people who have an extra £1000 and no time/skill to create a case then this is ideal. The extra £1000 on top of parts would seem is enough for this company to make a profit from without alienating too many customers.
i don't understand why he says of that calibre like its a duron or something
9200
I know I'm a n00b at these forums but saw this and just had to agree.
It even says in the article
my initial reaction to this rig was ' '
I for one, will only criticise a system like this when I know I can build better
Until then
;) Vadim
However it doesn't make the wires stretch across the board, and your PSU needs longer wires to reach too
Any chance of more images (with unshrunk vers.) in future reviews. One of the things (IMO) that really sets Bit-Tech apart.
just wanted to say that tho' I would not pay that much, if I was going to the hot glue wwould really put me off..
/cracks whip