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Quote Paradigm Shifter 25th January 2007, 14:47
Three main thoughts, really...

1) It's good to see that they can get Blu-ray right. :)
2) Proprietary power connector: bad. ;)
3) Price. Ouch.

Good review, as always. Did you run it through your normal high-level stress test, or did I miss that mention?
Quote trig 25th January 2007, 15:13
awesome that there is an evga board out that works...
too pricey. sure they added some nice perks in the power button head and power supplied to the door, but still...and the ram...omg...get it right already...
Quote plagio 25th January 2007, 15:18
That is a fantastic PC as always.

Can't honestly understand why a X-FI extremegamer !
Also, I would prefer to have a couple of 10000 rpm hard disks either in mirroring or in striping (for performance) and that 500 GIGA disk (which, I presume is 7200 rpm) as the data drive.
Quote Lazlow 25th January 2007, 15:59
I too was surprised by the lack of an additional drive for the O/S - perhaps a 150GB Raptor? A lot of the really high end systems are shipping with two 500GB data drives too.

Overall though, it looks like Alienware is slowly listening and improving.
Quote BioSniper 25th January 2007, 16:08
Where is that proprietary power connector? I think the article failed to mention it and I sure as hell couldn't see it.

It's an interesting system for sure and its a nice touch that the alien head is the power button but I'm one of those that will get hung up on the price tag. Of course specing up a similar system your self will run to similar prices but via overclockers you can buy that lot retail (or nearly the same stuff) for about 300 quid less so in all fairness it's not too bad I guess. I just can't see why someone wouldn't put that 3k down on a house or car though instead :p
Quote Tim S 25th January 2007, 16:09
It's on the back of the PSU - you need an Alienware supplied kettle lead. :)
Quote naokaji 25th January 2007, 16:17
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Originally Posted by Lazlow
I too was surprised by the lack of an additional drive for the O/S - perhaps a 150GB Raptor? A lot of the really high end systems are shipping with two 500GB data drives too.

Overall though, it looks like Alienware is slowly listening and improving.

personally i'd go for 2x 150 GB Raptor's in raid 0 and 2x 750 GB Seagate babys in raid 1 for such a highend system. (i know it sounds like overkill, but that would be about the equivalent of 2x 8800gtx cards if it comes to hdd's :D )

they could have put in some nice corsair dominator ram :D

but, otherwise a very nice system, except for the price tag... but well...
Quote duc 25th January 2007, 16:17
The Alienware case is a bit dated now though. Only one hard drive!

If Alienware were to have two 8800GTS in SLI and more storage options, would that have resulted in a better or same overall score from a reviewers perspective?
Quote BioSniper 25th January 2007, 16:18
Ah, I see it now. Shows how much attention I SHOULD pay to things when I read them :p
In some ways I would love to cry "that's stupid" but from a marketing point of view I guess they can then sell those power cables to the paying public at an extortionate rate should they require a spare/replacement.
It's still a pretty bad ethic though.
Quote oasked 25th January 2007, 16:19
Wow, that thing is expensive. Looking at OCUK, a system like that, but with a QX6700 comes to £2800.

Having said that, it would only be £2300 if you didn't include the pointless Blu-Ray drive. :)
Quote AClark 25th January 2007, 16:30
I've always been a fan of Alienware machines. The styling is what got me attracted and then the usually pretty insane specifications are good too, however I don't see the need for a Blu-Ray drive yet and a machine like this really deserves more storage!

However, Alienware rock and the prices are huge! Maybe one day I'll buy one but I can't see it being anytime soon.
Quote Dustin 25th January 2007, 16:30
Why would you get 2x 8800GTX and X6800 without decent ram?
800mhz 5-5-5-16- 2T seriously?
Quote plagio 25th January 2007, 16:53
those propietary power plugs are quite common these days. I have seen them on HP server and on some sgi machines. It won't be too difficult to find one in case yours get broken.
Still, we didn't need another plug standard
Quote Techno-Dann 25th January 2007, 17:12
You know you've been working with computers for too long when you look at that first exterior shot of the back of the machine, and think "eVGA i680, 8800s in SLI, and an x-Fi eXtremeGamer."
Quote Tim S 25th January 2007, 17:33
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Originally Posted by Techno-Dann
You know you've been working with computers for too long when you look at that first exterior shot of the back of the machine, and think "eVGA i680, 8800s in SLI, and an x-Fi eXtremeGamer."
:)
Quote samkiller42 25th January 2007, 17:41
That case looks nasty, it truely diserves to live in a scrap yard, and the price tag, well, i wont even go there. One thing i dont like about alienware is the fact you pay extra, thats extra for a system restore disk :( Bad bad move.

How much of the price goes to alienware and dell?

Sam
Quote IanW 25th January 2007, 18:17
That PSU connector looks like a 16A rated IEC socket. (I use them at work)
The standard "kettle leads" are rated at 10A max.
Quote Mankz 25th January 2007, 19:15
I think if Alienware sold that case with the LED's and the software, Alienware would be onto a right winner.
Quote David_Fitzy 25th January 2007, 20:18
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Originally Posted by Article
beating out the Striker in file decompression by just a second - this is down to the faster hard drive in the Alienware.
So what was the Alienware's HDD (did i miss it?) all i saw was it's a seagate 500G. Striker's was "Seagate 7200.9 200GB 7200RPM SATA 3Gbps"

Maybe you should have changed the striker system to a SLI 8800GTX GPU setup for better 3D comparison.
Quote TMM 25th January 2007, 20:36
All that and they feel the need to save $1 and go for a restrictive metal punched grill on the back instead of a wire finger guard.... :(
Quote DXR_13KE 25th January 2007, 22:48
change the hard drives and the ram and the sound card and you have a winner.

the case is great, but i prefer the bigger one. :D (i like big computer cases)
Quote M1CUZ 25th January 2007, 22:54
That proprietary plug on the PSU is indeed a slightly different version of the same plug family as what people commonly refer to as a “Kettle lead” or “IEC Cable”. The humble kettle lead as we know it is actually an IEC-320 C13 and is has a rated load of 10A. The connector on the back of that power supply appears to be an IEC-320 C19, rated to 16A. Further details for those interested can be found at HERE and many other places I’m sure. They are normally used for UPS output and rack PDU (power distribution units) due to their higher rated capacity.

Now that’s the technical babble out of the way, using that style of connector is a bit of a strange move, the good old IEC-320 C13 being rated to 10A means that in the UK it gives enough capacity to supply around 2.3KW of power, now… I’ve not bought a new system in a while, but im pretty sure they aren’t that bad for power yet The extra 3A you could draw using that IEC-320 C19 (I say 3 as UK sockets and plugs are rated to 13A not 16A) would never be used by a PC (nothing out for a while at least I would hope), so this means that the move is just a marketing ploy, most likely to get people to buy replacement power cables from them (Likely available cheaper elsewhere with a little digging about). So never fear they are not as un-common as you might first imagine, but they are certainly not as ubiquitous as the good old kettle lead. Forget to take your power lead to a LAN party and I think you might struggle to find someone with a spare
Quote Denis_iii 25th January 2007, 23:07
let me choose m/b, wot brand of mem and a xifi card with onboard mem and i'd buy this system....not to mention 2 raptor drives running RAID as the system n gaming drive, sweet rig!

MAKE A SFF SYSTEM ALIENWARE!!!! shuttle needs some competition to up the anti
Quote tank_rider 25th January 2007, 23:08
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Originally Posted by IanW
That PSU connector looks like a 16A rated IEC socket. (I use them at work)
The standard "kettle leads" are rated at 10A max.

Absolutely correct. They are used as you say for high current applications.

I work with them every day at work on the 65/75 page per min photocopiers i work with at Xerox which have higher current drain than a kettle lead can handle. To be honest i think a proprietry connector would be better, the tolerances on that spec are far too loose which results in the connectors not staying in the socket very well which from my experience can have some quite worryingly hot and melted results. Lets hope alienware/dell have specified tighter tolerances on their components although i highly doubt it due to them being international standards and manufacturers only care whether they conform to the spec as i've found out :(

As a result of them being standard they'll be available fairly easily, RS and farnell will definately have them as will most electrical suppliers.
Quote azf 26th January 2007, 05:50
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Originally Posted by M1CUZ
Now that’s the technical babble out of the way, using that style of connector is a bit of a strange move, the good old IEC-320 C13 being rated to 10A means that in the UK it gives enough capacity to supply around 2.3KW of power, now… I’ve not bought a new system in a while, but im pretty sure they aren’t that bad for power yet The extra 3A you could draw using that IEC-320 C19 (I say 3 as UK sockets and plugs are rated to 13A not 16A) would never be used by a PC (nothing out for a while at least I would hope), so this means that the move is just a marketing ploy, most likely to get people to buy replacement power cables from them (Likely available cheaper elsewhere with a little digging about). So never fear they are not as un-common as you might first imagine, but they are certainly not as ubiquitous as the good old kettle lead. Forget to take your power lead to a LAN party and I think you might struggle to find someone with a spare

I'd bet my money that power supply will be exactly the same in the US, and with 110VAC there's not enough headroom in 10A, especially when we're speaking of one-phase AC. You must always remember that converting amps and volts isn't as straightforward as just a simple multiplication when we're talking about AC. I'd say the decision to use C19/C20 is just sound electrical engineering for the lowest common denominator.

Anyway, those cables are fairly easy to get and even my local electronics store sells them for EUR 4.50 a piece, which I wouldn't consider a ripoff even when they sell standard C13 cables for EUR 2.60.
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