Its pretty impressive to me hitting 3520MHz with a E6400. Do you mind re doing some of the test at overclocked speeds to see how much more powerful the CPU is now.
Originally Posted by Article ...if you plug something into any of the PCI-Express x1 slots, the orange x16 slot is reduced to a lowly x1 bandwidth - which seriously cripples any extra performance a second graphics card will give you...
kinda kills the crossfire compatibility for me (but then I doubt I'll ever use crossfire or SLI) so why even say it does crossfire? (somebody slap that idiot from marketing)
Well CrossFire support is unofficial. For those not using any of the x1 slots it'll be at "full" x4 speeds, so it's not to worry. It's not just CrossFire, however, anything like a RAID card plugged into the bottom x16 slot will suffer the same effect.
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi Well CrossFire support is unofficial. For those not using any of the x1 slots it'll be at "full" x4 speeds, so it's not to worry. It's not just CrossFire, however, anything like a RAID card plugged into the bottom x16 slot will suffer the same effect.
It's official on P965 with Catalyst 6.9 and a pair of X1900's. Every board that has two X16 interconnects *should* do CrossFire already, or will after a BIOS update.
Originally Posted by Tyinsar kinda kills the crossfire compatibility for me (but then I doubt I'll ever use crossfire or SLI) so why even say it does crossfire? (somebody slap that idiot from marketing)
Originally Posted by Tim S It's official on P965 with Catalyst 6.9 and a pair of X1900's. Every board that has two X16 interconnects *should* do CrossFire already, or will after a BIOS update.
That doesnt make sense, why would they officially ratify something CrossFire enabled that's not at least two x8s?
obviously anything more than a pie chart arrouses mr nature, can you imagine what a small dancing blue thing would do to a man like that?
ps. That board is now on my shopping list. Although, by christmas - when i'm updating - i would imagine that prices may have dropped an new boards come out. For now though, its on my shopping list.
Originally Posted by will. obviously anything more than a pie chart arrouses mr nature, can you imagine what a small dancing blue mini bindi would do to a man like that?
Corrected, cos everyone knows that Bindi on a Weekend :P
Just as a small point in this review, the auto-stepping-down of overclocks wouldn't hurt the HDD (Unless it does a complete power down and restart), as the HDD doesn't stop spinning on warm reboots. Hit the reset button on the front of your PC to see what I mean. All that happens is that the HDD's controller board gets a "Reset" signal over the IDE bus, which'll cause it to re-initialise itself and move the heads to their "Parked" position (If necessary), but not to spin down and spin up the HDD.
And, as an aside, can't they put the ports on the back panel connector closer together? Do those USB ports really need that much space between them? It's not like there's going to be a problem with crosstalk, as both of those metal frames will share a common ground. And tucking the ports in closer together means you can get more ports in the back panel.
I'll see about photoshopping a mock-up so you can see what I mean...
[edit]here's the mockup. It's also got an extra 3 USB ports. Same image size as the original (In the review): http://www.lurghi.net/images/newbackpanellayout.gif
Please forgive the (very bad) photoshopping, but it was a 5-minute thing.
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Originally Posted by Anakha Just as a small point in this review, the auto-stepping-down of overclocks wouldn't hurt the HDD (Unless it does a complete power down and restart), as the HDD doesn't stop spinning on warm reboots. Hit the reset button on the front of your PC to see what I mean. All that happens is that the HDD's controller board gets a "Reset" signal over the IDE bus, which'll cause it to re-initialise itself and move the heads to their "Parked" position (If necessary), but not to spin down and spin up the HDD.
The hard drive actually spins up and then spins down on a failed POST - the board literally turns off like a power down and then re-initialises itself a few seconds later. Personally, I think that's bad for your hard drives (i.e. unnecessary spinning up/down in quick succession).
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And, as an aside, can't they put the ports on the back panel connector closer together? Do those USB ports really need that much space between them? It's not like there's going to be a problem with crosstalk, as both of those metal frames will share a common ground. And tucking the ports in closer together means you can get more ports in the back panel.
I'll see about photoshopping a mock-up so you can see what I mean...
[edit]here's the mockup. It's also got an extra 3 USB ports. Same image size as the original (In the review): http://www.lurghi.net/images/newbackpanellayout.gif
Please forgive the (very bad) photoshopping, but it was a 5-minute thing.
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They probably can't, because no-one else has gone that way. I think it is to do with the traces and the interference that it would create if the IO devices on the back panel were closer together. You'd just end up with poor signal quality and your sound would probably be affected - most noticeably - because you'd get interference whenever you're passing data across one of the other ports in close proximity.
The top USBs dont fit into ATX spec, too tall. You cant just compress it in photoshop, you have to remember it has to fit in with a rear metal IO plate as well.
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi The top USBs dont fit into ATX spec, too tall. You cant just compress it in photoshop, you have to remember it has to fit in with a rear metal IO plate as well.
Those top USBs are a pixel-for-pixel copy of the ones on the USB+Ethernet ports. I did no compression or scaling there. and (admittedly eyeballing it) that section is as tall as the audio output block.
But even if USB was too big, isn't eSATA thinner, and more likely to fit in there?
Sure I suppose you could try and force some eSATA but ive never seen eSATA above the height of the mobo surface and youve got to route the wires up that high and around the parallel port. I think you're making it far too simple that it really is.
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Its pretty impressive to me hitting 3520MHz with a E6400. Do you mind re doing some of the test at overclocked speeds to see how much more powerful the CPU is now.
I can give you the short and dirty answer though: "OMFGHOLYSHITZ THAT'S FAST!!"
It's official on P965 with Catalyst 6.9 and a pair of X1900's. Every board that has two X16 interconnects *should* do CrossFire already, or will after a BIOS update.
That doesnt make sense, why would they officially ratify something CrossFire enabled that's not at least two x8s?
Thank you
Nature: was your sig always "(Nothing)"?
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No.
Can I change yours?
Can I ask why?
ps. That board is now on my shopping list. Although, by christmas - when i'm updating - i would imagine that prices may have dropped an new boards come out. For now though, its on my shopping list.
Corrected, cos everyone knows that Bindi on a Weekend :P
And, as an aside, can't they put the ports on the back panel connector closer together? Do those USB ports really need that much space between them? It's not like there's going to be a problem with crosstalk, as both of those metal frames will share a common ground. And tucking the ports in closer together means you can get more ports in the back panel.
I'll see about photoshopping a mock-up so you can see what I mean...
[edit]here's the mockup. It's also got an extra 3 USB ports. Same image size as the original (In the review):
http://www.lurghi.net/images/newbackpanellayout.gif
Please forgive the (very bad) photoshopping, but it was a 5-minute thing.
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But even if USB was too big, isn't eSATA thinner, and more likely to fit in there?