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Alienware Area-51 m5700 notebook

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valium 21st December 2005, 13:40 Quote
I need :(
Da Dego 21st December 2005, 14:12 Quote
you and me both, and I hate notebooks even.
blunty 21st December 2005, 14:23 Quote
I was debating whether to get this or the Rock Extreme CT.
But since i love my games I decided to go and get the Rock notebook.
Can't wait to get playing on it. (It's wrapped up under the christmas tree already ) :D
stephen2002 21st December 2005, 14:35 Quote
Take this power and put it into a small notebook with a 12" screen. That would make me happy.
kickarse 21st December 2005, 17:15 Quote
Rather get the Rock
exavier412 21st December 2005, 17:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by stephen2002
Take this power and put it into a small notebook with a 12" screen. That would make me happy.

agreed. but 12 is pretty much to small. 15 would be perfect.
perplekks45 21st December 2005, 21:02 Quote
My girl friend owns a Dell notebook.
Pentium-M 1.86GHz
1 GB DDR2 Ram
6800 Go
100 GB HDD

And don't beat me but it rocks! Even it's a Dell. ;)
~19k 3D Mark 01 untweaked with old drivers.
And I do LOVE the LCD @ 1920 native resolution! Windows looks awesome with this even though surfing through the internet kinda sucks sometimes as pages ain't made for resolutions that high. And she also got like 4.5 hours out of the battery... no problem. And all she paid was ~1600€.
Now tell me this wasn't worth it. :|
Pookeyhead 22nd December 2005, 06:52 Quote
Yet another notebook with a hi-res 17 inch screen, yet we STILL can't buy a 19 inch desktop panel with more than 1280x1024... HELLO????


Nice notebook tho.. I think the Rock was a better choice to be honest.
Nature 22nd December 2005, 12:13 Quote
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Originally Posted by Pookeyhead
Yet another notebook with a hi-res 17 inch screen, yet we STILL can't buy a 19 inch desktop panel with more than 1280x1024... HELLO????

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116229



My question is why the brilliant chaps here at bit-tech would review (pretty much) the same lappy three times>?

I would love to see a dual core laptop review..... FX57, 7800GTX, 2GB DDR2>>>>laptop>? worth a review

http://www.gen-x-pc.com/note_C9750.htm

www.widowpc.com


http://www.alienware.com/product_detail_pages/Aurora_m7700/aurora-m_features.aspx?SysCode=PC-LT-AURORA-M-7700&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT


And so on...

I'm holding out on buying a lappy untill the Yonah comes out and offers some benchmarks.
mclean007 22nd December 2005, 13:00 Quote
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What a strange comment - he complains about the lack of hi-res 19" LCD panels, you give a link to a 21" CRT??!?

I too would be interested to see a review of a laptop with X2, though they are hardly going to have Centrino-like portability running desktop chips. What we need is the next gen of mobile chips with dual cores and ultra-low power demands.
Tim S 22nd December 2005, 13:09 Quote
I saw a dual core laptop a long while ago... it weighed about twice as much as this Alienware. The power block alone weighed more than my Ultra Portable, which isn't that light at 1.9KG.
mclean007 22nd December 2005, 13:12 Quote
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Originally Posted by bigz
I saw a dual core laptop a long while ago... it weighed about twice as much as this Alienware. The power block alone weighed more than my Ultra Portable, which isn't that light at 1.9KG.
So it won't be going too far from your desk then! But as a desktop replacement, it could be really good - takes up much less space, looks neater having fewer trailing cables, and is at least luggable to LANs etc. with minimal fuss, even if it isn't ideal for your daily commute or for taking notes at lectures.
Hepath 22nd December 2005, 13:28 Quote
Whilst I like to read these reviews, can some one please tell my why, if they are after an extreme gaming notebook, the m5700 was reviewed. Was it just the fact that it was that spec machine that got sent for review?

The only reason I find it strange is that I've been looking for a gaming laptop for a fairwhile now and having been to Alienware noticed that the FX7800 is actually an option on the AMD systems, but not the Intel. does however add £128 to the starting price.

Additionally a drawback is that the AMD (Aurora m7700) is hardware underspecced in comparison to the m5700 and the additional upgrades required to get to the same hardware spec (i.e.HDD, RAM) raise the cost to nearly £1900 and that's with a basic 3200+ CPU. Upgrade the CPU to say a 4000+ and that's nigh on £2k ... though maybe the 3800 x2 would be better?

Dont know... but it seems that as always there are swings and roundabouts!


*Edit
Forgot! Was a good review though! Keep 'em coming! ;)
blunty 22nd December 2005, 16:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by Nature
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116229



My question is why the brilliant chaps here at bit-tech would review (pretty much) the same lappy three times>?

I would love to see a dual core laptop review..... FX57, 7800GTX, 2GB DDR2>>>>laptop>? worth a review

http://www.gen-x-pc.com/note_C9750.htm

www.widowpc.com


http://www.alienware.com/product_detail_pages/Aurora_m7700/aurora-m_features.aspx?SysCode=PC-LT-AURORA-M-7700&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT


And so on...

I'm holding out on buying a lappy untill the Yonah comes out and offers some benchmarks.

Or the http://www.rockdirect.com/notebooks/xtreme64_cons.htm
dullonien 22nd December 2005, 16:31 Quote
I have a Pico 17" laptop, got it 3 yrs ago now.
1440x900 17" screen
Desktop P4 2.66GHz (Might upgrade to 3.06 HT)
512 DDR (Might upgrade to 1GB)
Radeon Mobility 9000

Built on a very similar chassis to this alienware, but almost identical to the http://www.gen-x-pc.com/note_C9750.htm that Nature posted.

They don't seem to have come on much apart from the graphics sinse then.
Mine has a battery life of 4hrs and 2hrs when watching dvd's, so how come even with these mobility cpu's the battery life hasn't increased.

Anyway..... good review, nice notebook, but the Rock looks a bit better.
Wolfe 22nd December 2005, 20:26 Quote
Shove alienware, go and buy a Sager/Clevo notebook. A hell of a lot cheaper, and it's the same build quality.

http://www.pctorque.com/sager-5720-gaming-computers.php

I've got one. They do 6800 - 7000 PCmarks in pcmark 2k5. If you buy from PCTorque, the warranty support is great as well (know from my last notebook).
RTT 22nd December 2005, 23:23 Quote
I've used this exact notebook over the last couple of days - typing from it now infact - and having just had a good chat with Wil about notebooks just thought i'd add my/our afterthoughts...

Wil disagrees, but I think on the inside this thing is a bit bland. The exterior is quite funky with the blue LEDs and the rubber pad things on the top/lid but when you open it it's all down hill IMO. There is a lot of space to cover but it's just ended up as grey plastic. The keyboard almost looks a bit silly just perched in the middle of it all. The Rock notebooks look a lot better by having the keypad added onto the keyboard. Another thing that doesn't help the looks is the trackpad is pretty much the same color as the plastic around it which further extends the feeling of a 'sea of plastic'.
The plastic on this quite smooth already (from the factory) and is going to get very shiny over time too, which sucks. Considering that the buttons are silver I can't help but wonder why the trackpad isn't, and it'd make a huge difference if it was!

The ideal res for 17in notebooks is 1680x1050. I played with a few of the 17in Rock notebooks which are 1920x1200 which is way, way too small. Although this 1440x900 is perfectly adequate it just doesnt look quite as good as 1680x1050.

True to Wil's article this thing doesnt get too hot for your lap at all, it's surprisingly cool infact.

The trackpad is a bit crap but I have trouble with trackpads anyway. The 'scrollpad' is way too sensitive to be useful.

Really randomly though the notebook function keys (fn+key) for the screen brighness are the wrong way around.

Overall though it isn't bad. Good screen, good specs, nice touch to the keyboard, plenty of USB ports and decent sound for a notebook too. And the graphics ;)

/reaches for Wil's powerbook

edit: the open button for the cd tray is really annoying. so so so badly positioned and the slightest touch and the bloody thing has popped open again..
Tim S 22nd December 2005, 23:27 Quote
I've also used that laptop - it went to Seattle with me. 1680x1050 would be nice on it, but I have to disagree because the graphics aren't powerful enough for this 'gaming laptop' to have a 1680x1050 screen. You'll be playing all recent games at less than native resolution.
RTT 22nd December 2005, 23:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by bigz
I've also used that laptop - it went to Seattle with me. 1680x1050 would be nice on it, but I have to disagree because the graphics aren't powerful enough for this 'gaming laptop' to have a 1680x1050 screen. You'll be playing all recent games at less than native resolution.

Well yeah, but for when you aren't gaming I mean (and you know I don't game much if at all :D) it starts to show. Plus playing at 1024x768 isn't exactly fun on this anyway...
RTT 23rd December 2005, 00:00 Quote
And here's another thought whilst it's on my mind.

17in: perfect size for a notebook you just want to sit around the house with
15in: for if you're always taking it places
Tim S 23rd December 2005, 00:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by RTT
15in: for if you're always taking it places
Try lumping a 15" notebook around CeBIT for a week and then tell me that ;)

I seriously wanted to throw my laptop in the bin at CeBIT, was far too heavy. 12.1" if you're always taking it places, 15" if you want a bit of portability, but aren't reliant on it being light. By the time I went to Computex, I'd got a 12.1" notebook for myself because I knew I was going to struggle with a 15" notebook in Taipei humidity. It's the perfect size for what I need it for. It's a bit small for photoshop, but it does 1280x800 which is doable for just about everything I use a notebook for.
specofdust 23rd December 2005, 00:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by Hepath
The only reason I find it strange is that I've been looking for a gaming laptop for a fairwhile now and having been to Alienware noticed that the FX7800 is actually an option on the AMD systems, but not the Intel. does however add £128 to the starting price.

This is total pedantry, but, Nvidia dropped the FX moniker alongside having rubbish cards that couldn't do DX9 :D Its just 7800GT/GTX or whatever now, and has been since the 6 series.
Wolfe 23rd December 2005, 09:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by RTT
The ideal res for 17in notebooks is 1680x1050. I played with a few of the 17in Rock notebooks which are 1920x1200 which is way, way too small. Although this 1440x900 is perfectly adequate it just doesnt look quite as good as 1680x1050.

I disagree. I'm currently working at 1920*1200, and i find it spectacular.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigz
I've also used that laptop - it went to Seattle with me. 1680x1050 would be nice on it, but I have to disagree because the graphics aren't powerful enough for this 'gaming laptop' to have a 1680x1050 screen. You'll be playing all recent games at less than native resolution.


You're wrong there too. The 6800 can run HL2 @ native resoluton with everything at max except for AA (at 2x instead) and AF (2x as well). FEAR @ 1920*1200 is somehing to see (and drool at).

You should see what the 7800 can do.

I have a sager np5720 (17" WUXGA screen, 7800 gtx, 2.0 pentium M, etc...). It's not exactly light, but i don't have that much of an issue carrying it around, though i'm a big guy.
Tim S 23rd December 2005, 09:45 Quote
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Originally Posted by Wolfe
You're wrong there too. The 6800 can run HL2 @ native resoluton with everything at max except for AA (at 2x instead) and AF (2x as well). FEAR @ 1920*1200 is somehing to see (and drool at).
I'm sure it is, but I prefer frame rates that don't represent a slide show, as I'm sure most people do. You should see what FEAR looks like at 2048x1536 with 4xAA 16xAF - it looks great, but its a slide show.
chittnp 30th December 2005, 02:27 Quote
I have an area 51 7700m, and I almost wish I'd gotten this instead. the 7700m is a huge beast, weighing in at over 8 lbs and running a 3 ghz p4 desktop processor...so its really more of a desktop replacement than a true laptop, and there's no way I would get anywhere near 2 hours out of the battery. One great thing about the alienware though, is that it really stands out from all the dell's and hp's. everytime I take it anywhere someone asks me what kind of computer it is or remarks on the glowing alien eyes on the front. I wish mine was more portable! I would really like to see how this competes with dells XPS laptop.
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