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Bindibadgi 31st October 2005, 11:27 Quote
For the love of god, why yet another Fatality product? Im clearly jelous of how much money he's making.
Flibster 31st October 2005, 11:39 Quote
Quick little correction for you - the SB Live had the breakout box initially - not the Audigy. ;)

Had a play with one of these on a PC I was building - It does soud pretty damn good.

Simon/~Flibster
atanum141 31st October 2005, 11:43 Quote
the real question is how good is the Xtreme music version?...all well and good having john wendel's products being pimped but i wanna kno about the more affordable option..is it really that good and how would it stand up to my soundstorm(yes i kno its old but its damn good)...

also i wonder what _Dom has to say about this.

awesome article...keep up the good work chaps!
Bindibadgi 31st October 2005, 11:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by atanum141

also i wonder what _Dom has to say about this.

I can tell you already: "Anything less than a 10 grand vinyl kit is crap audio fidelity."
atanum141 31st October 2005, 11:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
I can tell you already: "Anything less than a 10 grand vinyl kit is crap audio fidelity."
yeah haha i was thinking that!!!... :)
[USRF]Obiwan 31st October 2005, 11:54 Quote
To me it is a very big disapointment that their are no optical/digital outputs on the back of the card. I do not want to run audio cables from the front of the pc to my amp. And the breakoutbox does not fit into a HTPC the place where this card "could" have been perfect for. I mean with the THX certified options, DD, DTS and such..

It is a damn shame...

Update:
Reading the specs on the SBlive site, i noticed a 3 in one jack that supports digital i/o (with AC3 and PCM stereo support)

FlexiJack (Performing a 3-in-1 function, Digital I/O1 / Line In / Microphone) via 3.50mm mini jack


Still a shame because of no optical on the rear :(
[Tom] 31st October 2005, 12:22 Quote
"used to hack their PCs up to a niche, geeky device known as the iPod"

Hook?

Other than that, very well written article which seemed to cover all the concievable bases. ;)
The_Pope 31st October 2005, 12:34 Quote
Bugfixed
[sinz] 31st October 2005, 12:54 Quote
Yikes! $277 for a sound card? I could see for studio production type stuff but.... wow. The onboard memory is a pretty cool idea. It might not be too long before we start seeing sound cards that need water cooling. :)
macroman 31st October 2005, 13:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by atanum141
the real question is how good is the Xtreme music version?...all well and good having john wendel's products being pimped but i wanna kno about the more affordable option..is it really that good and how would it stand up to my soundstorm(yes i kno its old but its damn good)...

also i wonder what _Dom has to say about this.

awesome article...keep up the good work chaps!

The Xtreme music is basically the same card but without the onboard ram so audio performance is just as good. It beats the Soundstorm as you can see from the tests. ;)
The_Pope 31st October 2005, 13:23 Quote
yep, as it says at the end, if you're not bothered about the X-RAM for gaming, and don't need the front audio input / output jacks, the Xtreme Music card is half the price, and still does EAX 5.0 and has all the top quality sound of the Fatal1ty card.

If you've got the money, the Fatal1ty version is outstanding, but for the budget-conscious gamer, the Xtreme Music version is still better than an Audigy, and way better than on-board sound.
wharrad 31st October 2005, 14:10 Quote
Seems if you get this card, then you love high quality music. I know there's gaming features, but as the article said - very difficult to notice. I also take into account the extra voices which may prove useful in future.

But I suggest, if you want to make use of that music quality, then you'll need a good amp and a set of speakers - some good cables for that. You know - adds up to ALOT of money. So if you've got that far, you might aswell add a CD seperate...

So get a cheaper card for the games where you can't really hear the difference, and a music system for music.


Just a thought...
Marquee 31st October 2005, 14:11 Quote
Have never been a man into audio to much as my speakers have enough wattage to blast my ears off. But this X-fi thing, I really want to try it out. I want to get more $$$ head phones then my Sony MDR-V300 and check out how it works.
LockmanX 31st October 2005, 15:41 Quote
I've been using an old SBLive5.1 for awhile now. About a month ago, I went a LAN and a buddy of mine had just put together a pretty sweet system with one of those X-fi card in it. We were playing the FEAR multiplayer demo and he wanted to see what the game was like on my machine (lowest spec at the LAN). I was expecting the graphic to be better (X850XT > 9600XT) but the sound comming off the card was incredible.

Very nifty card. One is definatly going to end up in my next machine.
I_Slider_I 31st October 2005, 16:00 Quote
I was doing some DJin this summer, and I could really hear the difference if I was using a lower quality sound card or onboard sound. I had a laptop with a audigy lap top card, however this didn't turn out to be much of a help because the DJ software that I used really didn't recognize the different channels on the Audigy (front, rear, surround) although the sound quality was up there.

However, even though the audigy improved my sound, it still wasn't as good quality as using CDs. It does take a trained ear and good speakers to hear it, but MP3's just don't have the quality. I wonder what this new crystalizing feature will do to improve MP3's, my guess is its a lame effect and won't really be able to make up for crappy quality.

Any thoughts?
The cheapskate 31st October 2005, 16:05 Quote
Well I run A yamaha 5.1 Amp (rx-v357), and a set of Gale silver moniter hifi speakers, they run from the onboard sound on my ASUS a8nsli main board by the optical lead.

Currently it sounds fantastic, but would it be worth me plumping for the new card? as i would have thought that currently its the amp that does all the work?

any advise people~?
J-Pepper 31st October 2005, 16:17 Quote
I've always used the top audigy cards paired to a set of top quality headphones (Pioneer DJs and Grados).. it beats anything else out there... but at almost £200 for a soundcard!!!...

I want this, but I think i'm going to have to plump for the cheaper £100 version.. I just can't justify the extra expense for 64MB ram.
Kipman725 31st October 2005, 16:19 Quote
You forgot the daddy of ISA soundcards the AWE 64 I like to pick those up from ebay for a few pounds. THe stereo quality on them is superb compared to Ac97 onboard audio but people just don't want them because there ISA. With a yamaha daughter board of a simlar generation with loads of extra midi voices on you can get some awsome midi instruments that sound asif your actualy listening to the cd.

http://www.classicalarchives.com/ <--- some good midi files for testing midi ect. instead of using "flourish"
kiljoi 31st October 2005, 16:31 Quote
Looks nice, but way too expensive for me. I can't even afford to spend that on a video card, much less sound. BTW, is this the first pre-modded sound card (with the little red light)?
Firehed 31st October 2005, 16:43 Quote
Well I must ask, do any of the fancy AQ-improving features work if you're using something OTHER than creative's player?

Dunno, I've had enough unpleasant experiences with creative's driver and software set to last me a while I think.
macroman 31st October 2005, 17:20 Quote
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Originally Posted by Firehed
Well I must ask, do any of the fancy AQ-improving features work if you're using something OTHER than creative's player?

Dunno, I've had enough unpleasant experiences with creative's driver and software set to last me a while I think.

Yes they do. I have had bad experiences with the Live! installation but Creative seem to have gotten their act together driver wise with the X-Fi.
FIBRE+ 31st October 2005, 17:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by Firehed
Dunno, I've had enough unpleasant experiences with creative's driver and software set to last me a while I think.
LOL, same here, I hope they've got there act together on that front.

Considering an OEM version if there is any, if the price is right, I got some Sennheiser HD 580's to plug into it :)

Chances a lot of people buying this £170 card are going to be pluging in some crappy £100 pc speaker system, bit of a waste really :(
jeff_vs 31st October 2005, 18:06 Quote
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Originally Posted by macroman
Creative seem to have gotten their act together driver wise with the X-Fi.

Yes, but still haven't gotten their act together for us digital lovers. All this EAX surround BS only works if you are hooked up to the amp via the 3.5 mm mini jacks.

People like myself who run S/PDIF exclusively are left listening to whatever the amp can render from a digital stereo signal.

Why do I run S/PDIF optical exclusively? Simple, the amp is on the other side of the room from the computer. All this talk about noise floor and sound quality means nothing when you have to run it through 10 meters of cable.

Now, Turtle Beach hit the nail on the head with their Montego Card, by including Dolby Digital Live, real-time Dolby 5.1 encoding. That, and the output is on the back of the card, not on some add-on box.

http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/products/soundcards/mtgoddl/

I'd really like to get one of these, or to at least see how it fairs up against the Creative lineup. I'm guessing this real time encoding produces quite a bit more cross talk than discrete wiring, but when discrete wiring is not an option, maybe it's good enough???

Oh yeah, the fact that it's $46 cheaper (Newegg 79.99 vs. X-Fi Basic model @ $126) doesn't hurt.

Thanks,
Jeff
woodshop 31st October 2005, 18:17 Quote
Was it in the artical or not. About that the purpase of the 64mb of memory is??

Also i think i'll stay with my X-Mystique DDL card :) i so love that thing.
dom_ 31st October 2005, 18:30 Quote
well written article, only thing i would say is better audio comparisions.
actually comparing the audio directly with other cards. would have been nice.
from a reference point such as an emu 0404 or 1212. although these arnt gaming cards there audio performance is very well documented so a good idea of the sound quality could have been made.
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Originally Posted by atanum141

also i wonder what _Dom has to say about this.
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Originally Posted by bindibagi

I can tell you already: "Anything less than a 10 grand vinyl kit is crap audio fidelity."

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