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Grand Theft Auto V Review

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alf- 20th September 2013, 15:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by sotu1


I think the issue is that GTA (to the best of my knowledge) has never had a great female character that stands out, apart from generic prostitute/pornstar/slut girlfriends....

Catalina from GTA3 was a standout female character for me, she wasn't a stereotypical depiction of a female character by any means.
tonyd223 20th September 2013, 15:09 Quote
wonder what the piracy rate is on PC for a game like this?
Krikkit 20th September 2013, 15:15 Quote
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Originally Posted by alf-
Catalina from GTA3 was a standout female character for me, she wasn't a stereotypical depiction of a female character by any means.

That's true! She was a seriously bad-ass character. As was that Japanese dominatrix, Asuka.
suenstar 20th September 2013, 15:20 Quote
You can get the game for £39.97 at Asda at the moment... in case anyone was looking for a slightly cheaper deal.
I'm going to resist for now as I have very little free time.
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Originally Posted by tonyd223
wonder what the piracy rate is on PC for a game like this?
Zero at the moment as there is no PC version.
I'd imagine there's a fair few pirated copies of the console versions already though.
alf- 20th September 2013, 15:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by alf-
Catalina from GTA3 was a standout female character for me, she wasn't a stereotypical depiction of a female character by any means.

That's true! She was a seriously bad-ass character. As was that Japanese dominatrix, Asuka.

Poor Miguel though.
SMIFFYDUDE 20th September 2013, 17:17 Quote
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The vehicles have been tuned so they no longer handle like a block of lard on a bed of marbles


..if that's the case then one of the obstacles to me ever purchasing another GTA title has been removed.

Playing through GTA IV became too much of a battle against appalling controls and vehicle handling, causing me to repeatedly fail missions, in the end I just didn't have the time or patience to try and master it, so gave up.

I've never understood this gripe people have with the car controls in GTA 4 (or the GTA4 runs like **** complaint either). I really liked the handling to me the cars felt well balanced and predictable. Driving felt far better in GTA 4 than a lot of recent arcade racers.
ResCyn 20th September 2013, 17:37 Quote
£38 in Tesco.

I'm reminded how in Saints Row a male or female lead character are entirely interchangeable. OK I understand tight control of the writing and character are vital to Rockstar's vision for the game but after so many titles and with the budget they have, it's surely not beyond the will of *ahem* man to include a strong female lead? Can women not be ****ed up, psychotic arseholes too?

I also agree with the previous poster that they have a duty of care now with the success. More than any of its' peers, kids play this title en masse. I'm not going into details as we all know why kids shouldn't play this game and the reasons parents let them, but after having had a conversation with my 13 year old nephew yesterday whose reasoning was that everybody in the playground already knows about the content I grow more and more concerned as I get older. Kids understand only within their limited ability to comprehend what's being shown to them: half understood without the benefit of time, experience and a proper frame of reference. I'm not for one minute advocating changing the fundamental nature of the game but they could damn well tackle the misogyny in my opinion.
forum_user 20th September 2013, 17:45 Quote
After reading this final line in the review "Then it goes and robs a bank just because it can, and despite yourself you kind of fall in love with it again."

I may have to buy it now!!

(I wasn't bothered until I skimmed all the way through the review and hit that line!)
ya93sin 20th September 2013, 18:19 Quote
It's so painful to wait to buy this game :(
Waiting so I can get the PS4 :(
forum_user 20th September 2013, 19:49 Quote
Awww man.

SteamBox edition for me ...

... fingers crossed.
Xir 20th September 2013, 20:23 Quote
strange how the steering on most consoleports feels weird, even as consoles have thunbsticks these days. GTAIII and san andreas steered best using short taps, as with a digital controller.
Flight required a sensitive mouse, or better a stick though.
What I don't understand is that none of them really drive well with a wheel, especially since there are quite a lot of console wheels out there.

For the gender question, i prefer to play a female character. For all the wrong reasons though. If I spen hours staring at a persons behind in 3d person view, it may as well be pleasing.
Don't think it'd work for GTA though, I'd be an absolute slut.

That said, maybe christmas 2014 in a steam sale is my chance.
Why pirate something when you can buy it for a tenner?
forum_user 20th September 2013, 20:33 Quote
SteamBox 2014
SteamBox GTA V 2015?

http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/
Cthippo 20th September 2013, 21:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by ResCyn
Can women not be ****ed up, psychotic arseholes too?

They could use my ex for the character design :p
Shirty 20th September 2013, 22:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by Cthippo
They could use my ex for the character design :p

Or any woman
Sloth 20th September 2013, 23:14 Quote
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Oh, I thought I was on BT rather than RPS. I don't know/haven't heard of a single girl that will be playing this, so I don’t know how denying 51% of the population a female character to play with is an issue. More like 1% of the playerbase - and nothing in the entire history of the world can cater to 100% of the population.

Its an 18, so anyone playing it should have a reasonably developed sense of right and wrong, and equal societal rights for both genders, and if they haven’t then I doubt one game is going to change their opinion in either direction. If kiddies are playing it, well, then its really up to the parents to police that, and bring them up as decent, balanced people, able to make a informed opinion on these types of issues.
A little more rough than I'd have put it, but have to agree that it seems overplayed. Rockstar have a narrative in place created with set characters, that was their design choice and fair play to them if they didn't want players changing fundamental aspects of their characters such as gender, or name.

I have to question whether the "token" female characters in other games are any better. When they exist seemingly only to show off the diversity of characters it can feel hollow and pointless. Take Sheva in Resident Evil 5, who is more or less a walking stereotype. Or both Left 4 Dead games where one female character is present out of four. It's okay girls, there's a character for you! We'll ignore that by real world population there should be two female characters, or that you might want a choice amongst your gender like male gamers get. Had Rockstar shoe-horned in a female character simply to appease critics I can easily see it having been far more insulting than simply sticking to an all male cast and relying on their [hopefully] detailed and personal narrative to explain the lack of choice.
Donteatmypanda 21st September 2013, 01:48 Quote
Cant say I agree with reviewer on this - opinion seems harsh given the joy this game has given me for £38....
The way rockstar push movie budget art through 8 yr old console tech has impressed me since I bought this.
Shirty 21st September 2013, 09:42 Quote
It's an opinion piece - nobody is obliged to agree with it!

Read lots of opinions and formulate your own opinions.
liratheal 21st September 2013, 10:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by Roskoken
Aye man, plus little things like if you buy your ammo en-mass from a particular seller there shares perform better.

Sold, a thousand times sold.

I actually have a copy next to me while i wait for a haircut.
Er-El 21st September 2013, 13:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by Shirty
It's an opinion piece - nobody is obliged to agree with it!

Read lots of opinions and formulate your own opinions.
They are.
Digi 21st September 2013, 17:09 Quote
I liked the review. I know what to expect if I get it and I'll form my own opinions when I do. So torn as to whether to wait for the PC release though.

If they ever do release it on PC of course...
greigaitken 21st September 2013, 18:56 Quote
lol @ the equality 'debate'
In real life - violent crime is executed by men.
A 'hard ass' chick with guns would be like Barb Wire the movie
Either way - this game ain't supposed to have any sort of moral standing in way. Just fun. Shame about exclusivity but i guess that's how to bleed current consoles before they die.
battles_atlas 22nd September 2013, 14:11 Quote
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Odd review, almost felt like you went out of your way to dislike aspects of the game.

"Meanwhile, the non-mission stuff still doesn't feel like it matters all that much. Sure, you can play tennis, or go hunting, or get drunk and play in traffic, and the mechanics, animations, and environments for doing all those things in are amazing, but none of it has any sense of meaningfulness"

SRSLY meaningfulness? you're looking for meaningfulness when you're dicking around in GTA?

Actually thought this was a very good review for Bittech, this guy is way better than Joe Martin was, whose pretension wrote cheques his writing couldn't cash.
Anfield 22nd September 2013, 22:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by guvnar
PC version please, Rockstar!

Now... if it's not too much trouble!

Its going to be a year from console release as always with GTA games before Rockstar remembers PCs exist...
blackworx 23rd September 2013, 06:49 Quote
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But when the writing descends to characters calling each other (and I quote) a "f***ing f***", well, that speaks for itself.

To be fair, that is in itself a direct quote from (IIRC) Blue Velvet. If they're making cultural references like that (and no doubt Joe Pesci's character Nicky Santoro from Casino gets a few look-ins too) then I'm ok with it.
hirezo 25th September 2013, 18:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by Roskoken
Like when you destroy a rival corporations infrastructure so the shares tank and you can make a killing from the stock market?

Wait wait wait.

Can you actually do that of your own volition, or is it a scripted event side quest affair?

Yep and you also invest in the companies you've damaged through doing heists while their price is really low. Can make a serious killing in the game stock market.

For quick cash you could always rob security vans or hold up stores :)

Totally disagree with this review. The game was fun from beginning to end.
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