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Grand Theft Auto V Review

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sotu1 20th September 2013, 11:08 Quote
£30? Where did you get this price from?!
Hustler 20th September 2013, 11:10 Quote
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The vehicles have been tuned so they no longer handle like a block of lard on a bed of marbles


..if that's the case then one of the obstacles to me ever purchasing another GTA title has been removed.

Playing through GTA IV became too much of a battle against appalling controls and vehicle handling, causing me to repeatedly fail missions, in the end I just didn't have the time or patience to try and master it, so gave up.

The only time I load up the game now is when I want to go for a wander after installing a new mod or graphics filter.

I suppose a PC version will turn up...eventually.
sotu1 20th September 2013, 11:16 Quote
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The vehicles have been tuned so they no longer handle like a block of lard on a bed of marbles


..if that's the case then one of the obstacles to me ever purchasing another GTA title has been removed.

Playing through GTA IV became too much of a battle against appalling controls and vehicle handling, causing me to repeatedly fail missions, in the end I just didn't have the time or patience to try and master it, so gave up.

The only time I load up the game now is when I want to go for a wander after installing a new mod or graphics filter.

I suppose a PC version will turn up...eventually.

I had the exact same reservations and in honesty I think it still does feel that way. I couldn't find any settings to adjust the sensitivity on PS3 so no choice but to get used to sliding about. I even failed the first few driving missions a few times because of this. However, it does allow for you to weave in and out of traffic when making a getaway. Just something you gotta get used to.
alf- 20th September 2013, 11:31 Quote
Odd review, almost felt like you went out of your way to dislike aspects of the game.

"Meanwhile, the non-mission stuff still doesn't feel like it matters all that much. Sure, you can play tennis, or go hunting, or get drunk and play in traffic, and the mechanics, animations, and environments for doing all those things in are amazing, but none of it has any sense of meaningfulness"

SRSLY meaningfulness? you're looking for meaningfulness when you're dicking around in GTA?
Meanmotion 20th September 2013, 11:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by sotu1
£30? Where did you get this price from?!

Sorry, copy and paste error. Corrected.
julianmartin 20th September 2013, 13:02 Quote
A little on the harsh side perhaps, but hey it's a review piece. I do see what you mean that the world is incredibly derogatory of...well, the world. Is it no longer satire though? I'm not sure about that.

As for the driving - don't understand the issues there at all, I think it handles really well, and much better than IV. Fly helicopters however, now that's a different story.
TheStockBroker 20th September 2013, 13:11 Quote
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Fly helicopters however, now that's a different story.

In defence, it improves greatly with flight skill!
CrazyJoe 20th September 2013, 13:20 Quote
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Originally Posted by Meanmotion
Sorry, copy and paste error. Corrected.

Now it's £49.50. Where do you buy your games?
Parge 20th September 2013, 13:24 Quote
Oh, I thought I was on BT rather than RPS. I don't know/haven't heard of a single girl that will be playing this, so I don’t know how denying 51% of the population a female character to play with is an issue. More like 1% of the playerbase - and nothing in the entire history of the world can cater to 100% of the population.

Its an 18, so anyone playing it should have a reasonably developed sense of right and wrong, and equal societal rights for both genders, and if they haven’t then I doubt one game is going to change their opinion in either direction. If kiddies are playing it, well, then its really up to the parents to police that, and bring them up as decent, balanced people, able to make a informed opinion on these types of issues.
Roskoken 20th September 2013, 13:31 Quote
"Meanwhile, the non-mission stuff still doesn't feel like it matters all that much. Sure, you can play tennis...."

What???

Like when you destroy a rival corporations infrastructure so the shares tank and you can make a killing from the stock market?

Seems to me a lot of the "non-mision" stuff you can do matters quite a lot.

And the dialogue scripts are ****ing immense.
Krikkit 20th September 2013, 13:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by Parge
I don't know/haven't heard of a single girl that will be playing this, so I don’t know how denying 51% of the population a female character to play with is an issue. More like 1% of the playerbase - and nothing in the entire history of the world can cater to 100% of the population.

I know a group of 4 girls who all queued up together to buy it at midnight. My Mrs has also expressed an interest.

If the driving is significantly improved I may well pick this up on console, but I'm going to try and hold out for a PC version. I can't imagine it'll be too long.
guvnar 20th September 2013, 13:46 Quote
PC version please, Rockstar!

Now... if it's not too much trouble!
liratheal 20th September 2013, 13:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by Roskoken
Like when you destroy a rival corporations infrastructure so the shares tank and you can make a killing from the stock market?

Wait wait wait.

Can you actually do that of your own volition, or is it a scripted event side quest affair?
jrs77 20th September 2013, 13:52 Quote
If it wasn't for the controls this game might actually be fun to play. But with these crappy controls it's not worth a dime.

The whole system is way to indirect and clumsy. What GTA needs is fast and responsive FPS-controls.
Guinevere 20th September 2013, 13:52 Quote
Is it really misogynistic or is just a brash loud (violent) game about brash loud (violent / criminal) men doing some brash loud (violent / criminal) things? Do the characters treat the female NPCs any worse than they treat the male?

I see games like this in the same was I see movies like Reservoir Dogs. Yes they're male focused but then so what?

Anyway I'm off now to play a computer game made just for girls...

I'm stuck on the final level of "Fried Green Tomatoes At The Whistlestop Cafe III". I've unlocked Sipsey but for the life of me I can't find the cast iron frying pan to smack Frank upside the head!

It's a way better game than Little Women 2 and may even be better than some of the Bridget Jones DLC.
RickLane 20th September 2013, 13:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by Parge
Oh, I thought I was on BT rather than RPS. I don't know/haven't heard of a single girl that will be playing this, so I don’t know how denying 51% of the population a female character to play with is an issue. More like 1% of the playerbase - and nothing in the entire history of the world can cater to 100% of the population.

I'm sorry to hear that you don't know any women who play GTA, that must be very hard. I feel obliged to introduce you to one. She reviewed it, actually and enjoyed it even more than I did.
longweight 20th September 2013, 13:55 Quote
What on earth was wrong with the steering in the previous games? I loved the car handling!
RickLane 20th September 2013, 14:13 Quote
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Originally Posted by CrazyJoe
Now it's £49.50. Where do you buy your games?
I checked Amazon this morning and it was £49.50. I checked it again after you posted this and it's now £44. I think someone is playing a practical joke on me. Is it you? You rotter.
:)
CrazyJoe 20th September 2013, 14:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by RickLane
I checked Amazon this morning and it was £49.50. I checked it again after you posted this and it's now £44. I think someone is playing a practical joke on me. Is it you? You rotter.
:)

It's not in stock at Amazon, the price keeps changing as it's the marketplace sellers you are looking at.
Parge 20th September 2013, 15:08 Quote
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I'm sorry to hear that you don't know any women who play GTA, that must be very hard. I feel obliged to introduce you to one. She reviewed it, actually and enjoyed it even more than I did.

I'm not saying there aren't any, but that they make up a tiny minority of the player base. I bet if we trawl every review on metacritic 99% of the reviewers will be male, which is undoubtedly a fairly accurate representation of the player base.

RPS very noble stance of addressing gender issues in the gaming industry is great and all that, but I personally wouldn't mark Rockstar down for it in a controversy courting game like GTA, which caricatures people from all walks of life for the sake of humour and a great story.
Jqim 20th September 2013, 15:13 Quote
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Originally Posted by Parge
Oh, I thought I was on BT rather than RPS. I don't know/haven't heard of a single girl that will be playing this, so I don’t know how denying 51% of the population a female character to play with is an issue. More like 1% of the playerbase - and nothing in the entire history of the world can cater to 100% of the population.

Its an 18, so anyone playing it should have a reasonably developed sense of right and wrong, and equal societal rights for both genders, and if they haven’t then I doubt one game is going to change their opinion in either direction. If kiddies are playing it, well, then its really up to the parents to police that, and bring them up as decent, balanced people, able to make a informed opinion on these types of issues.

Think about the impact Rockstar North have on young people, thats reason 1.
If I had that much power I would try and promote gender equality by including playable female characters with the same depth as the others. Even if technically I would be catering to a tiny portion of the playerbase, I think it would plant the seed in peoples mind that games are for everyone. I would see it more of a thought experiment as well for the writers / designers to make a female character that has a good story that truly comes from a female perspective. Of course you would have to hire women to get that right so there is reason number 2.
Porkins' Wingman 20th September 2013, 15:15 Quote
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when the writing descends to characters calling each other (and I quote) a "****ing ****", well, that speaks for itself.

Oh dear https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4627893760/hEA90F621/

The reviewer would clearly prefer to live in an imagined world where all bank robbers, drug dealers and repo men are eloquent, articulate and sophisticated. Croquet on the Lower Lawn, anyone?

It was 'writing' like that that made GTA IV feel like the most grounded game I've ever played and Niko Bellic one of my favourite game characters. I loved the dialogue in GTA IV. And as soon as GTA V is released on the pc and reduced to £5 on Steam I'm buying it, you ****wit!
sotu1 20th September 2013, 15:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by Parge
Oh, I thought I was on BT rather than RPS. I don't know/haven't heard of a single girl that will be playing this, so I don’t know how denying 51% of the population a female character to play with is an issue. More like 1% of the playerbase - and nothing in the entire history of the world can cater to 100% of the population.

Its an 18, so anyone playing it should have a reasonably developed sense of right and wrong, and equal societal rights for both genders, and if they haven’t then I doubt one game is going to change their opinion in either direction. If kiddies are playing it, well, then its really up to the parents to police that, and bring them up as decent, balanced people, able to make a informed opinion on these types of issues.

I think the issue is that GTA (to the best of my knowledge) has never had a great female character that stands out, apart from generic prostitute/pornstar/slut girlfriends....
Roskoken 20th September 2013, 15:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by liratheal
Wait wait wait.

Can you actually do that of your own volition, or is it a scripted event side quest affair?

Aye man, plus little things like if you buy your ammo en-mass from a particular seller there shares perform better.
Parge 20th September 2013, 15:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by sotu1
I think the issue is that GTA (to the best of my knowledge) has never had a great female character that stands out, apart from generic prostitute/pornstar/slut girlfriends....

Yeah, can agree with that. Does it have to though, and if so, why? There is a decent mix of secondary female characters, I remember Auntie Poulet from GTA Vice City as being a pretty badass crimelord. Also, the girlfriend in GTA4 definitely didn't fall into any of the above categories, she was a decent, upstanding girl!

I was pleased to see that CIG have made their female characters as awesome as their male counterparts:

"For our first female character we didn’t want a cheap pinup; we wanted a badass space explorer who can hold her own on the fringes of civilization!"
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/qe0wvcrbwi1c5r/post/Femexplorer.jpg

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/kukivuvhnq067r/post/SC_FEMALE-EXPLORER_001_RM.JPG

"For our first female character we didn’t want a cheap pinup; we wanted a badass space explorer who can hold her own on the fringes of civilization!"
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