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Saints Row: The Third Review

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Whirly 21st November 2011, 08:20 Quote
Sounds like another case of a developer hearing that people really like one aspect of their game (in this case, the silliness/crassness) and then ramping it up to 11 for the sequel. Of course, in doing so they generally forget to innovate.

By focussing on on what people liked about the last game, it seems they forgot to make a new one - losing the opportunity to take up the pre-GTA V slack.
Spreadie 21st November 2011, 09:04 Quote
I installed and tried Saints Row 2 on Friday, after getting as part of a Steam games bundle over a year ago.

It's sh!te.
borandi 21st November 2011, 09:51 Quote
The Saints Row series is great. I like that you can't relate to anyone, and it's sheer silliness combines with GTA's wanton destruction. I can't be bothered with a cousin asking for pickups in a car('Niko, drive me to the gun shop'), I'd rather around in a pimp outfit or a mankini whacking people with a dildo on the end of a baseball bat.
AlexB 21st November 2011, 10:01 Quote
I bought this, and it's terrible. Sure, a few of the jokes are funny, but the actual gameplay, the animations, the graphics, the bugs... shocking. It hasn't moved on from Saints Row 1. A real shame.

Disapointed, as everyone raved about how good SR2 was, but I missed that one, and I Spent a fair while in SR1 pre-gta-on-360.
Hovis 21st November 2011, 11:54 Quote
I think it's a bit harsh to say it does nothing innovative for the sandbox genre when it's bringing an almost fully realised co-op mode into it. Good co-op sandbox games are rarer than rocking horse manure these days, as most games just staple some co-op missions on as an aside, rather than fully embracing the open world of the game and allowing that to relate to the single player game. Red Dead Redemption sort of gave it a go, but even it fell short of making mission play properly co-op.

Definitely think the law of diminishing returns is about to set in on Saints Row though. I mean I like this one, in fact I've always liked Saints Row games as the spiritual successors to the top-down GTA games, but they've got nowhere to go now. Unlike GTA, which grew up when it ran out of room to move as a juvenile franchise, Saints Row has built itself on the crass first, and the game style second, so it's kind of stuck.
Fizzban 21st November 2011, 12:05 Quote
You know what to expect with Saint's Row. It would be a surprise if it wasn't crass and over the top. And the sex appeal option in the character gen leaves you with no illusions as to what to expect. Not played it for very long, so not formed any real opinion yet.
liratheal 21st November 2011, 12:08 Quote
I love it.

Perhaps it speaks for my character, but **** it, I love running around beating people with a massive rubber dong.
justicefornone 21st November 2011, 12:27 Quote
Really enjoying it to, although I'm not really playing in that over the top way, just kind of chillin' around the City and plenty to do and find to keep me interested and enjoy the experience. Nothing as exhilarating than getting a few 'stars' on a gang and have them all hunt me down while trying to get away!
PlayedStation 21st November 2011, 12:53 Quote
I enjoy the saints row games more than GTA, shocking I know but the storyline never meant anything to me in the first gta games, it was about mowing down people and causing havoc. The previous 2 SR games allowed me to do just that without the need to take itself seriously. I dont have much time for games these days, but when i do, i need the action or interest to be imminent. I think this particular part of the sandbox genre, much like Just Cause 2 offers me just that :)

You didnt mention in the review about the side mission parts like Insurance Fraud, are they still included in the 3rd? I freaking loved insurance fraud in the last two, hilarious
Bloody_Pete 21st November 2011, 14:18 Quote
I love it too, not because it's vulgar, just because it's fun.
Bloody_Pete 21st November 2011, 14:20 Quote
And yes, nsurance Fraud is in it, rg dolling all over the place...
Adnoctum 21st November 2011, 14:41 Quote
Saint Row 2 was utterly broken on PC, simply unplayable with a KB+M.

I'm not usually an advocate of violence, but anyone who had anything to do with pushing out that massive load of steaming fecal matter should be roughed up, pushed up against a wall and swiftly shot.
That includes the office cleaning staff and the executive fluffers.
Anyone who worked on both the SR2 port and The Witcher should not be roughed up but simply shot out of hand. Some people deserve some compassion. But not forgiveness...

The massive purple dildo at Volition who said this about SR2: "We've spent a great deal of time optimizing system specs for Windows PC to ensure gamers get the high quality experience no matter what system they choose", should be sodomised to death with another massive purple dildo. I think it would be fitting.

Eventually I got to play it on a console. It was still a steaming pile of...
It was as humorous as Postal (as in, not much after 15 mins) and as much fun as reading Lord of the Rings (or not at all). It was stupid as in sad, fat and stupid, and not in an ironic, carefree and fun way. More "80's Dukes of Hazzard" than "The Young Ones".
It tried too hard and it was far too obvious, which is the worst criticism I've made of it yet.
Fizzban 21st November 2011, 15:12 Quote
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Originally Posted by Adnoctum
Saint Row 2 was utterly broken on PC, simply unplayable with a KB+M.

Tosh. I played it with mouse and keyboard quite easily.
Marvin-HHGTTG 21st November 2011, 15:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by Adnoctum
Yaaaaaargh!

So, I think I see what you're saying...

You don't like Saints Row.
Adnoctum 21st November 2011, 15:58 Quote
I've drained some coolant and had a bowl of ice cream, and thinking it over I think I know what it was I didn't like about SR2.
From the little I played, I felt it was mean-spirited and casually cruel in the same way a class/workplace/group clown who dual roles as the class/workplace/group bully. And was as funny as a hand fart to the face.
But I don't have to like every game, so I'm happy to give it a miss and leave the enjoyment to others.

@ Fizzban. Running around was OK, fine movement and shooting was not as precise as you'd like, but driving (which was a large part of the game) was just terrible. You could not drive a straight line, and if you say you did at any time on purpose, I will not believe you.
You could go left or you could go right, and somewhere between turning left and turning right there was a point where you went straight ahead...before you started turning too far to the left and had to correct by turning to the right. But not too far right. Oh look, you've smashed into something on the way to your mission and you weren't even hurrying! What fun.
SR2 was almost as bad as Driv3r. I say almost because at least in SR2 driving was 25% of the game, while in Driv3r it was 80%.
Sutura 21st November 2011, 18:00 Quote
Dildos, vulgarity, murder? Call me provincial. Not even remotely interested.
XXAOSICXX 21st November 2011, 19:22 Quote
70%....

You gotta be kidding me.

www.turd-on-a-stick.com/sr3
PingCrosby 21st November 2011, 20:24 Quote
Its just good to put on when you've come in from work and got a few hours to kill, can't be bothered with the missions its just fun to drive around and cause hell on.
FifteeeCal 21st November 2011, 20:35 Quote
Don't take the game seriously. It's stupid, it's crass, it's immature. It's also hilarious when playing co-op with a friend. That's when the game really shines, mucking about having fun with your mates.
CowBlazed 21st November 2011, 20:55 Quote
This game on PC is unplayable for me right now, and anyone with AMD graphics pretty much. Some nvidia people are having issues as well but anyone on AMD is getting 50% or less of the FPS they should be getting.
leslie 21st November 2011, 21:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by Adnoctum
@ Fizzban. Running around was OK, fine movement and shooting was not as precise as you'd like, but driving (which was a large part of the game) was just terrible. You could not drive a straight line, and if you say you did at any time on purpose, I will not believe you.
SR2 had a driving bug, there is a way to fix it, thanks to community. It made a big difference.

You're right though, it was bad on PC. Yes, I played it, and liked it (except a few sections), but it really is a disaster on PC. It started off as a bad port, and then it was left to rot. It was fun, so I was looking forward to this one, I'm just not sure I will bother at this point. I have yet to hear if the controls are fixed (since this is was the 360 version) and the humor just seems to not be what I would want.
Fizzban 21st November 2011, 22:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by Adnoctum
@ Fizzban. Running around was OK, fine movement and shooting was not as precise as you'd like, but driving (which was a large part of the game) was just terrible. You could not drive a straight line, and if you say you did at any time on purpose, I will not believe you.

Driving was awkward it's true, and I crashed into cars quite a bit. But if I was careful I could do well enough. I was only careful when I had to be, the rest of the time I smashed the fools outta my way! :)
Hovis 21st November 2011, 22:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by CowBlazed
This game on PC is unplayable for me right now, and anyone with AMD graphics pretty much. Some nvidia people are having issues as well but anyone on AMD is getting 50% or less of the FPS they should be getting.

No worries on my AMD card...
Waynio 22nd November 2011, 20:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by PlayedStation
I enjoy the saints row games more than GTA, shocking I know but the storyline never meant anything to me in the first gta games, it was about mowing down people and causing havoc. The previous 2 SR games allowed me to do just that without the need to take itself seriously. I dont have much time for games these days, but when i do, i need the action or interest to be imminent. I think this particular part of the sandbox genre, much like Just Cause 2 offers me just that :)

You didnt mention in the review about the side mission parts like Insurance Fraud, are they still included in the 3rd? I freaking loved insurance fraud in the last two, hilarious

There are loads of fun side missions :), but I do play the missions too, plenty of fun ones, in fact they have all been good fun, I've put 20 hours into the PC version so far & it hasn't disappointed me, some genuinely funny bits in the game too.

This aint a serious game & I'd never expect it to be, this game like the older GTA's & SR's are fun, so wooden character lovers need not apply for this game ;).

Also unlike the 2nd one on PC the 3rd is perfectly optimised & the only bug I came across was when on a mission shooting from a helicopter & it flew into a building & wouldn't budge so had to restart the mission.

Tech details, game plays absolutely flawless for me, flying is massively improved, driving is nicely improved (still not GTA level though) the Lamborghini alike handles badly (crash into things pretty easy but that's what brakes are for ) superbikes are awful to control but cruiser bikes handle nice, melee is infinitely better than GTA & a lot more fun too :D, shooting is good but could have been a little better with a cover system but overall combat is fine in this game, sniping from a huge distance with dot size targets nice & accurate, enemies grab hostages & I go robocop mode on them picking them off with nice accuracy, areas look good, not amazing, just good, no progressive day/night cycles also like Mafia II :(.

If I'm keen on a game I buy it blindly these days, if I'm not I'll checkout reviews, in fact I'd rather do away with scores & replace it with a good write up & pros/cons of a game at the end & simply say what type of gamer would/wouldn’t like it, scores don't work for me anymore, like how some people rate the opposite sex (or same :D) out of 10, it's stupid & shallow, your either magnetised for any number of reasons to them or not, same with what you like in a game or anything.
Eiffie 22nd November 2011, 20:46 Quote
Sasha Grey's angelic voice is more than enough reason to buy the game. I mean, who wouldn't want to listen to her for hours on end!
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