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perplekks45 16th November 2010, 09:07 Quote
That's exactly what I thought about it. Not really anything better (or worse) than a polished Wii games collection with a hell of a lot of (as of yet unused) potential.

So... I'd say we all wait for 6 months, see of what quality new games are and re-review it again, eh? ;)
DarkFear 16th November 2010, 10:03 Quote
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...there’s an entire genre of games that could be built on the back of Kinects ability to interpret pelvic thrusts.

Should me make a thread and try to guess the date that the 1st SimSex launches? :p
DeathAwaitsU 16th November 2010, 10:35 Quote
£180 quid? Rofl no thanks, ill just get the gf a wii :D
£180 for a peripheral is just madness
Fod 16th November 2010, 10:46 Quote
um, that's odd. i saw it for £125 at GAME on thursday
veato 16th November 2010, 10:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by DeathAwaitsU
£180 quid? Rofl no thanks, ill just get the gf a wii :D
£180 for a peripheral is just madness
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Originally Posted by Fod
um, that's odd. i saw it for £125 at GAME on thursday

I though the RRP was £129.99 too?

I certainly wont be rushing out to get one but I can see potential in the device. I just hope that turns into realised potential.
memeroot 16th November 2010, 11:00 Quote
its 125... still too pricey (though I bought it ;-)

Now in the scale of things there are many of us here for which 125 for a bit of a blast isn't all that much cash and those are the people who this is for (similarly we should not have a go at pete j for buying 3 480's and then 3 580's wow! loved the review btw !)

These people are dads (lets face it) who have the box in the living room (I live in a dutch narrow house and still have 8 foot). Chatting to a chap at the game store, he was undecided, I said it was great, he noted he wanted it in the bedroom (online chat???) I said he was f**cked (but thankfully now not in online chat)

Regarding the facial recognition - it's worked perfectly for us but then thats one adult male, one adult female and 2 kids of disparate ages.... maybe you all look alike? Certainly you need to configure it a few times in different light - it seems to be a learning system (Takes me back to my nural networks (good tit bad tit))

the games are fun the menu's work well, it takes less time to setup than getting the bloody wii controllers to sync (why am I so bad at that?)

however big and most important minus is that IT DOESNT WORK WITH STREAMED CONTENT HOW F**KED IS THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tom_hargreaves 16th November 2010, 11:00 Quote
£130 is still overpriced.
shadow12 16th November 2010, 11:07 Quote
The price and its currently limited usage on the XBox is a crime. But if you are looking for some inspiration of what to do with it have a look at the OpenKinect project.
CardJoe 16th November 2010, 11:09 Quote
Play.com's price has dropped to £164.99 since the article was written, so the article has been corrected.
FelixTech 16th November 2010, 11:10 Quote
If you like messing around with computer vision then £130 is a bargain for a 3D camera. By the sound of it the only thing Kinect's got going for it at the moment is that you have to be really stupid to break your TV :)
memeroot 16th November 2010, 11:41 Quote
" the only thing Kinect's got going for it at the moment is that you have to be really stupid to break your TV"

when I came down this morning I found my kid jumping around playing kinnect adventures... its good exercise - whether it lasts more than a week is questionable....

when ea releases their sports game I'll buy it for similar reasons... perhaps the family should go out jogging... but its cold and wet.
Zippededo 16th November 2010, 11:49 Quote
Microsoft should be embarrassed about the release games they have lined up for this. It just looks so much like they're ripping Nintendo off. Even the new dash board both looks and sounds Wii like and to top it off, the current TV adverts could easily be mistaken for a Wii commercial.

Technically it's far better than the Wii, but Microsoft need to do their own thing with this.
Guinevere 16th November 2010, 11:55 Quote
Out of the three systems, it would seem Sony has the lead from a technical point of view. MS have gone with their controller free system and it's going to have limitations. £130 isn't too bad if it can be made effective enough (in time) to replace a Wii with four controllers, four nunchucks, a dance mat, a step etc.

Personally I think it needs a controller, you can't do a decent FPS (or even a rubbish one), or a proper racing game without some sort of button. I wonder if MS will produce a small wireless controller to provide buttons. Or maybe a naff power glove rip off.
Zippededo 16th November 2010, 12:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by Guinevere
...Personally I think it needs a controller, you can't do a decent FPS (or even a rubbish one), or a proper racing game without some sort of button. I wonder if MS will produce a small wireless controller to provide buttons. Or maybe a naff power glove rip off.

I agree. Sony were realistic about this and added the navigation controller. It could take MS a while to add anything, as a) they can argue that the existing wireless controllers can be used and b) Releasing a sub controller would make a mockery of their 'you are the controller' mantra.

'You are the controller, but for an extra £14.99, here is your sub controller', does not have the same ring to it :D
Omnituens 16th November 2010, 12:10 Quote
The RRP is £129.99 at GAME, with Kinect Adventures. £164.99 gets you 1 of 4 games with your Kinect.
sotu1 16th November 2010, 12:19 Quote
I think the release slate is weak, but this might be a bit of a slow burner. The sales figures are there to show some demand, and I'm sure Rare will pop out something decent in time. 130 quid is fairly reasonable I think, especially considering the cost of Move/Wii accessories.
Showerhead 16th November 2010, 12:33 Quote
The release titles have killed it for all of my 360 owning friends. Most of them have wiis too and so don't see the point in getting another controller to play the exact same games. 9Not that the wii is used outside of parties) Hopefully someone will develop something that uses the full potential of kinect as at the moment it just looks like a wii knock off that's years too late.
memeroot 16th November 2010, 12:40 Quote
most of the hard core kids wont care, families will buy it and people looking for a console may buy it over the wii and ps3 + move because it sounds cool.... (price of console + kinnect competes v well with both ps3 and wii)

its not there for FPS - you have a controller for that
its not for driving - you have a wheel for that

now where is skype for 360?
StoneyMahoney 16th November 2010, 12:42 Quote
My future brother-in-law bought Kinect for his X-Box and the whole family spent a good few hours playing around with it. Of course, that was after we'd rearranged the entire living room to accomodate it, and even then we didn't have quite enough space to play comfortably. Kinect Adventures felt just like Wii Play in that you got the impression the designers started with a list of the controller's capabilities and had to write games to show off each one.

Then we booted up Kinect Sports and spent a few hours with the Bowling game. The increase in production value over Wii Sports is obvious from the outset, which I'm damn glad of seeing as how it's a £40 title and not a freebie. Milking it a bit, aren't we M$? I must say we did thoroughly enjoy ourselves, especially my soon-to-be mother-in-law whose straight-throwing bowling style was perfectly read by the software every time. The rest of us liked using spin but the software only seem to register it properly (or at all) 2 times out of 3. The camera had no trouble tracking us, it was the software failing to interpret our moves.

Which finally brings me to the point. MS is so late to the party now that software problems like this just can't be tolerated anymore and let the entire package down. It's programmers are less experienced with motion control and it shows. Badly. Yeah, we had fun, but £200 worth of fun? Hell no!
V3ctor 16th November 2010, 12:44 Quote
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Originally Posted by memeroot

when I came down this morning I found my kid jumping around playing kinnect adventures... its good exercise - whether it lasts more than a week is questionable....

when ea releases their sports game I'll buy it for similar reasons... perhaps the family should go out jogging... but its cold and wet.

This is the main reason for me to buy kinect. It makes u do some exercise while playing... I just wanted to buy one, but there's not a single xbox250gb + kinect available in my country, as soon as there is stock, it gets wiped clean in a couple of hours... :(
Showerhead 16th November 2010, 12:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by memeroot
most of the hard core kids wont care, families will buy it and people looking for a console may buy it over the wii and ps3 + move because it sounds cool.... (price of console + kinnect competes v well with both ps3 and wii)
Part of the problem for M$ and sony here lies in that most of the people in this bracket have already bought the wii. Time will tell if there marketing campaigns ae good enough to get them to buy what ,at the moment for me anyone, amounts to another wii.
Bauul 16th November 2010, 13:39 Quote
In some respects it seems like a bit of a tick box for MS. Look at the most recent EA Fitness game that requires motion detection. They've developed it for all three consoles - I bet you publishers everywhere are now pushing the developers who once only created for the Wii to create for both the PS3 and 360. MS are probably hoping all they need to do is sit back and all the games that once had the Wii as the sole target are suddenly multi-platform.
Zippededo 16th November 2010, 13:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by sotu1
I think the release slate is weak, but this might be a bit of a slow burner. The sales figures are there to show some demand, and I'm sure Rare will pop out something decent in time. 130 quid is fairly reasonable I think, especially considering the cost of Move/Wii accessories.

Sales figures must be good as Kinect is pretty much sold out. http://www.xbox360-offers.co.uk/kinect/kinect-stock-best-prices-deals.asp . Comet and Woolworths are showing stock but past experience tells me not to trust some of these secondary games retailers.
TWeaK 16th November 2010, 13:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by shadow12
The price and its currently limited usage on the XBox is a crime. But if you are looking for some inspiration of what to do with it have a look at the OpenKinect project.

It's not limited to Xbox. Within 3 hours of release in Europe a hacker made proof of concept drivers to get it running under Linux. Apparently, a chunk of the limitations are software based - it has even more potential as a PC peripheral!

Don't have the link atm, but I think it was on Ars last week. I'll try and find it when later when I'm near a computer and not on my phone.

@edit: Don't think it was Ars, but a quick google of 'Kinect hacked' comes up with a few stories as well as it working on Mac
Woodspoon 16th November 2010, 13:56 Quote
Motion control = gimmick, will go the same way as music games and dance mat games before them.
Good fun for a short time or a pissed up night with mates but ignored the rest of the time.
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