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Quote HugoB 22nd September 2009, 09:56
Personally, the main problem with the story was its independence - there's no sense of connection between the events on New Mombasa those of the other three games.
Quote OWNED66 22nd September 2009, 11:15
True story: we have one of those in the bit-tech offices too

ROFL
Quote Jipa 22nd September 2009, 11:42
I can't help but think that if any of the Halos were originally made for the PC, nobody would even know about them :) Nothing special about the whole series, IMO.
Quote The boy 4rm oz 22nd September 2009, 11:45
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Originally Posted by Jipa
I can't help but think that if any of the Halos were originally made for the PC, nobody would even know about them :) Nothing special about the whole series, IMO.

I agree, I have never thought of it as a great game, the PC version of the original Halo played so much better though lol.
Quote ashikamlani 22nd September 2009, 11:59
Halo 1 was epic, it all went a bit downhill from there.
Quote Kiytan 22nd September 2009, 12:31
I actually quite like the sound of the way the firefight thing mixes it up. Still, unless it ends up in a bargain bin somewhere, chances are I'm not going to buy it, i have halo 3 (got free from a friend) so if i ever have the desire to play a halo game, i already can (they are basically all identical anyways)
Quote Gunsmith 22nd September 2009, 12:47
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Originally Posted by ashikamlani
Halo 1 was epic, it all went a bit downhill from there.

if you'd never played an FPS before maybe, which is why when it entered the pc market it got tore to shreds and laughed at.
Quote SMIFFYDUDE 22nd September 2009, 13:20
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Originally Posted by Jipa
I can't help but think that if any of the Halos were originally made for the PC, nobody would even know about them :) Nothing special about the whole series, IMO.

Halo was supposed to be for the PC but it took such a long time to make that Microsoft had created the Xbox and bought out Bungie before it got released.
Quote Blademrk 22nd September 2009, 13:26
Still, for an X-box game it's fun.
Quote storm20200 22nd September 2009, 13:44
What's with all the negative comments? I think it's an excellent game, fair enough I'm only on the 4th level but it feels a lot smoother and better to control than halo 3, the graphics have been improved thank god, the whole game has a darker sense to it than the usual Halo sense of run in and kill everything you'll be fine. While the maps may be quite small you do get a sense of having to explore to find your goal (if you don't use the map marker), TBH I think it's what the halo series should've been. Feels a lot more fun than Halo 3's campaign ever did and everything feels more natural. Maybe it's just me but if it keeps up it may be my favourite Halo game of the series =\
Quote Veles 22nd September 2009, 13:49
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Originally Posted by storm20200
What's with all the negative comments?

Welcome to the internet.

Many people react to the over hype of the series by being overly critical.
Quote storm20200 22nd September 2009, 13:56
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Originally Posted by Veles
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Originally Posted by storm20200
What's with all the negative comments?

Welcome to the internet.

Many people react to the over hype of the series by being overly critical.

Maybe it's just because I never read anything about the game in the first place, and the excitment of having a game a day early :D
Quote chocolateraisins 22nd September 2009, 15:48
why can't halo just die.. and make a new game..

its like call of duty now.. in five years time we will have halo 6 with Master Chef Mini-challenges using Natal
Quote The boy 4rm oz 22nd September 2009, 16:25
CoD should have finished at CoD 2, CoD 3 was a joke and in CoD 4 they introduced that crappy press to stab/win button.
Quote DarkLord7854 22nd September 2009, 16:36
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Originally Posted by chocolateraisins
why can't halo just die.. and make a new game..

its like call of duty now.. in five years time we will have halo 6 with Master Chef Mini-challenges using Natal

No-one's forcing you to play it mate, some of us actually do enjoy those franchises.


ODST looks decent, and I rather like the firefight concept
Quote jSilverel 22nd September 2009, 20:07
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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854
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Originally Posted by chocolateraisins
why can't halo just die.. and make a new game..

its like call of duty now.. in five years time we will have halo 6 with Master Chef Mini-challenges using Natal

No-one's forcing you to play it mate, some of us actually do enjoy those franchises.


ODST looks decent, and I rather like the firefight concept

It's just how people are these days on the internet. If they don't like something they'll tear it to shreds and take a crap all over it so no one else would want to play it either. I've never had a problem with any of the Halo games. They've all been quite fun and the ease of play, setting, characters, and multiplayer experience did it for me.

It is just another game in the setting, originally intended as an expansion, but ultimately got way more content added than they anticipated. They're building a franchise, and while having Master Chief lead the way yet again, I think having different (albeit unnamed and unknown) character does take a stab in a new direction. When you want to build up a setting, leaving it in the hands of a single perspective makes it stale. Bungie has been avoiding this and building out in different directions. No, there's nothing unique and groundbreaking about the gameplay, but really? Is that what a game needs to be good? Is that what it takes to release a retail product? Surely there's dozens of other games that use the exact same mechanics in different configurations. Are they just as poor? I really don't think so. I can pick up any number of FPS games and easily rip them apart, point at everything else on the market and say "They not innovative, they took this from here, here, and here." It's not about the revolutionary gameplay anymore guys. It'll be a rare chance for something revolutionary (as opposed to evolutionary) to hit a FPS game any time soon. You don't need that in every release to be good.

You just need something that hooks into a player, pulls them into the game, and keeps them there. Bungie did this with the first Halo, and has kept it going thus far. If you're not a fan of the series then you probably won't like this one either. Don't be too surprised when you feel it's simply more of the same, when the rest of us are engrossed in what happens next. Creativity doesn't come from the mechanics of a game any less than it does with the story and character development. Lots of people have figured out what a franchise does, I can't believe you're still waiting for something that isn't going to happen.
Quote Combinho 22nd September 2009, 20:15
I guess the point is this: if the gameplay is very similar, if not identical in some cases to previous games, then what is the point of releasing a new game? Why not just play the older game again? The story? Halo doesn't have the most enthralling story anyway. And if you were after a story why not watch a film, or, god forbid, read a book.
Quote Teknokid 22nd September 2009, 20:18
Is the score at the end of the review a 1 or a 7?

I actually really like the game.. I can see it being a bit average if you were to play alone, but with 3 friends accross xbox live its epic :D
Quote jSilverel 22nd September 2009, 20:41
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Originally Posted by Combinho
I guess the point is this: if the gameplay is very similar, if not identical in some cases to previous games, then what is the point of releasing a new game? Why not just play the older game again? The story? Halo doesn't have the most enthralling story anyway. And if you were after a story why not watch a film, or, god forbid, read a book.

Why read reviews on a game that you don't even like?
Quote Combinho 22nd September 2009, 21:05
I tend to read reviews to find out whether or not I will like a game, I don't decide from hype or prejudice beforehand.
Quote DarkLord7854 22nd September 2009, 21:14
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Originally Posted by Combinho
I tend to read reviews to find out whether or not I will like a game, I don't decide from hype or prejudice beforehand.
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Originally Posted by Combinho
I guess the point is this: if the gameplay is very similar, if not identical in some cases to previous games, then what is the point of releasing a new game? Why not just play the older game again? The story? Halo doesn't have the most enthralling story anyway. And if you were after a story why not watch a film, or, god forbid, read a book.

Lol, nice way of contradicting yourself there.. :p :)
Quote Combinho 22nd September 2009, 21:45
I read the review and decided it was the same as ever. No contradiction. The review stated these things, lightbulb goes on - same old, same old I think. What's so complex about that?
Quote Carcharodon 23rd September 2009, 00:02
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Originally Posted by Jipa
I can't help but think that if any of the Halos were originally made for the PC, nobody would even know about them :) Nothing special about the whole series, IMO.

Sorry, but I can't agree with this; Halo was revolutionary for its day, with its combat, AI, free roaming sand box environments, vehicles and cinematic scope. You can see the legacy it has left in nearly every major FPS that's been released since. So it really does deserve its reputation along with Wolfenstein, Doom, Deus Ex and HL 1 & 2 as one of the most influential and definitive FPS's ever made.
Quote mute1 23rd September 2009, 00:53
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Originally Posted by Carcharodon
Sorry, but I can't agree with this; Halo was revolutionary for its day, with its combat, AI, free roaming sand box environments, vehicles and cinematic scope. You can see the legacy it has left in nearly every major FPS that's been released since. So it really does deserve its reputation along with Wolfenstein, Doom, Deus Ex and HL 1 & 2 as one of the most influential and definitive FPS's ever made.

I'm sorry but the criticisms in general do seem to be justified. Having said that, you certainly do not need to apologise for liking the game. We're all individuals. (Although I very much doubt that any great games drew inspiration from Halo - sorry).
Nevertheless, it seems to me that console exclusives such as this seem to fall into much the same category - good perhaps but not great. (Bit-tech never did a Killzone 2 review - not the time or couldn't be bothered?)

Speaking of console exclusives, wasn't there a WET review on the way? I was interested to see whether the verdict was that it was rubbish or a mindless way to spend some time (reviews tend to conclude one or the other).
Quote Mentai 23rd September 2009, 00:55
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Originally Posted by Carcharodon
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Originally Posted by Jipa
I can't help but think that if any of the Halos were originally made for the PC, nobody would even know about them :) Nothing special about the whole series, IMO.

Sorry, but I can't agree with this; Halo was revolutionary for its day, with its combat, AI, free roaming sand box environments, vehicles and cinematic scope. You can see the legacy it has left in nearly every major FPS that's been released since. So it really does deserve its reputation along with Wolfenstein, Doom, Deus Ex and HL 1 & 2 as one of the most influential and definitive FPS's ever made.

I see your point, but I would argue that it still would have gone unnoticed. Most people I know who played Halo:

1. Were not PC gamers
2. Just experienced their first semi decent fps
3. And most importantly, played it coop

All 3 of these combined created a unique experience that I believe would have been largely missed on PC.

At the time when Halo came out, most of my weekends were spent at my mates house playing 8 player splitscreen/xbox lan halo multiplayer with him and his cousins. It was a great time socially etc, but in the evenings we'd go back to playing UT2k3/4, it was simply a better fps experience. Halo was there for a social aspect over gameplay.
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