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Xbox 360 UK launch review

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Nature 3rd December 2005, 12:44 Quote
Playstation 4 life... The playstation 1&2 were the best consoles since the SNES. I want those homeys at Sony to crush this Microsoft abomination.
Xen0phobiak 3rd December 2005, 13:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by chiggyman
Question on the video aspect, i have a 20inch LCD, it has a max res of 800x600 and has VGA and component inputs, i also have a 17inch LCD with a max res of 1280x1024 that just has a VGA input. Which would be the better option to use?

Depends how far you sit from the screen. For close up I'd use the 17", for far away, the 20".
lepre 3rd December 2005, 14:19 Quote
no review about plugging in a mouse/keyboard? :(
sherman 3rd December 2005, 16:31 Quote
Does anyone know if DVI will be available?
And if it becomes available, would I then be able to connect it to my TFT's DVI input?
CooLJoE 3rd December 2005, 18:11 Quote
xenophobiak - one clarification: yes the standard live subscription is free, however you cannot play online games with it. well, except on certain weekends when live allows it. you really need the gold subscription to play online. the free silver subscription is there so you can access marketplace, updates, etc.

lepre - mouse and keyboard do not work on the xbox360. MS made sure that they were locked out from working (atleast thats what i've heard). I tried my saitek gamer keyboard on the xbox360 and it didn't do anything. it lit up and whatnot, but nothing on the keyboard did anything on the xbox360. same goes for mice, i tried my logitech mx510 and nothing happened.




BTW, I'm surprised you guys didn't like kameo that much. I found it to be one of the best launch titles (if not the best). The graphics are awesome, gameplay is sweet, and the battles and challenges are always fun. The cut-scenes do eventually have you thinking "ok, who cares, skip please", but thats mostly because you want to play more kameo. PDZ = FPS = sucks on console, so I skipped it. And the fact you can't jump makes it even worse. PGR3 looks like PGR2 with high resolution and slightly better graphics (or atleast the scenery got an upgrade...wish the cars did too). And worse off, PGR3 doesn't work properly on 4:3 ratio displays. It ends up stretching the vertical res to fit the entire screen (found this out using the VGA cable on my 17" samsung LCD monitor). From what I've heard, COD2 is a fun title, although I'd rather have that on my PC. Same goes for NFS:MW. The sports titles like Madden got a nice upgrade in graphics though, and quite a few people grabbed those at launch (especially Madden).
xpuk 3rd December 2005, 18:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by Neogumbercules
I think saying "You need an HDTV or don't bother getting an 360 or PS3" is a little extreme.

I agree entirely...:)

I was lucky enough to pick up the premium 360 on the day of release and the graphics are OUTSTANDING on my 32" widescreen (Non-HD) TV.

Sure, if you can afford a HD TV go get one - but don't talk yourself out of getting an xbox 360 on that issue alone.

I'm used to playing PC games and console games. Sure the PC will overtake MS's new baby soon enough but you'll probably be paying as much for that graphics card as you would for the 360 alone!

Once the developers get to grips with the technology, we'll be seeing some truly amazing things from this console.

Right now (if you can get hold of one) you can experience the state-of-the-art in your living room, couching out with a wireless controller.

It feels pretty damn good and can only get better.
eek 3rd December 2005, 19:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by Neogumbercules
Are you guys gonna do the same thing when PS3 comes out? I never really see any PS based news aricles on here.
http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/2005/05/12/sony_psp_review/1.html
:)
s29feb 3rd December 2005, 19:33 Quote
Stick with my PC me thinks !
Kevo 3rd December 2005, 21:34 Quote
Nothing quite like a 'soft' launch is there.

One thing I always expected was a very limited amount of consoles before crimbo but what I didn't expect is the severely limited stocks of all of the accessories. I had to go to five, yes five ****ing shops just to find a wired control pad (for my PC :D) then I got there last one, truly pathertic on Microsoft's part.

To sum up.... worst stock availability ever!


Edit: Oh and don't ever expect just pop into your local Game and buy a VGA HD cable as Microsoft must have only shipped five to the entire country.
Cheese 3rd December 2005, 22:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by Kevo

Edit: Oh and don't ever expect just pop into your local Game and buy a VGA HD cable as Microsoft must have only shipped five to the entire country.

My local (very big) Tesco had plenty of accessories left today, though this is probably because they only had about 10 xbox360 buyers to sell them to...
yodasarmpit 3rd December 2005, 22:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by Kevo


To sum up.... worst stock availability ever!
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But Microsoft have scored a media sucess, all the news channels were saying XBOX 360 sells out on opening day.

The fact that there was only 2 on sale it wasn't hard.
Kevo 4th December 2005, 13:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by Cheese
My local (very big) Tesco had plenty of accessories left today, though this is probably because they only had about 10 xbox360 buyers to sell them to...

My Local very big Tesco didn’t get any consoles or accessories and only a 'few' games.
Orca 4th December 2005, 14:11 Quote
A great read :D I preordered mine a while ago and then cancelled it because I realised I was only really interested in PGR3 *drools at first person mode* I think I'll wait until FFXI comes out and see if it's enough to tempt me back (used to play it on the PC). That and, I need to get myself an HDTV :)
Xen0phobiak 4th December 2005, 14:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by Kevo
Nothing quite like a 'soft' launch is there.

One thing I always expected was a very limited amount of consoles before crimbo but what I didn't expect is the severely limited stocks of all of the accessories. I had to go to five, yes five ****ing shops just to find a wired control pad (for my PC :D) then I got there last one, truly pathertic on Microsoft's part.

To sum up.... worst stock availability ever!


Edit: Oh and don't ever expect just pop into your local Game and buy a VGA HD cable as Microsoft must have only shipped five to the entire country.

our local game had one, we have it now!
DivineSin 4th December 2005, 17:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by xpuk
I agree entirely...:)

I was lucky enough to pick up the premium 360 on the day of release and the graphics are OUTSTANDING on my 32" widescreen (Non-HD) TV.

lol, of course its going to look great on your 32" widescreen LCD television. Games look great on crt computer monitors as well as LCD computer monitors. Theres a big difference between a computer monitor and a normal television though.
Sathy 4th December 2005, 19:10 Quote
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To test out the differences between standard definition (480p, 640x480 resolution) and high definition, we played around with the Xbox video settings, to see if this really is a new era of visual quality.

Wouldn't standard definition in this case be 480i rather than 480p?
From what I've understood, not many standard tv's support p?
:: kna :: 4th December 2005, 19:14 Quote
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Originally Posted by DivineSin
lol, of course its going to look great on your 32" widescreen LCD television. Games look great on crt computer monitors as well as LCD computer monitors. Theres a big difference between a computer monitor and a normal television though.
I didn't see him mention LCD anywhere there, so I'd assume he's talking about a CRT.

If that's the case, then that's encouraging as I'm just about to get one :D
hakme2deth 4th December 2005, 19:53 Quote
Seem to have a problem reading the pages? pages (2,4,6 and 8 coincidently...)

Anyone haveing the same problem...


"Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /gaming/2005/12/02/xbox_360_uk_review/2.html on this server."
hakme2deth 4th December 2005, 19:58 Quote
Also getting it on "Media Centre Soduku"
http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/2005/11/28/mce_sudoku/1.html

Using Firefox 1.5 but if I view it in IE Its OK.

DON'T KILL THE FOX!!!

;-)
monkeyville 4th December 2005, 20:05 Quote
nope i am running 1.5 and i have no problems
DivineSin 4th December 2005, 21:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by :: kna ::
I didn't see him mention LCD anywhere there, so I'd assume he's talking about a CRT.

If that's the case, then that's encouraging as I'm just about to get one :D


I could of swarn i read LCD..erp.
Raymus 5th December 2005, 02:36 Quote
Bein a PC gamer I had second thoughts about buying mine. Glad I did tho, having a blast with mine. But realy only worth it if you have a HDTV then you get the full graphic use of it. Only have two issues with the system so far. One being I couldnt hook up my mouse and keyboard for FPS games. Two being you can easily ruin a disc. If the system is running with a disc in it. And you go to lay it over or upright for any reason, something in the system ruins the disc witha huge line cut around the disc. Have done it myself and have had many customers return games to my shop complaining about it. Cant wait to see what the good modders out there can do with um 8 ).
:: kna :: 5th December 2005, 06:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by Raymus
Two being you can easily ruin a disc. If the system is running with a disc in it. And you go to lay it over or upright for any reason, something in the system ruins the disc witha huge line cut around the disc.
One of the golden rules of CD players since, well... ever is never move the unit with it spinning.

I've read more than one comment where people say they've ruined discs by reorientating the Xbox with the drive going?! If I'm honest, yes, I'm not surprised at this.

This isn't a design fault, it's a user training issue.
DivineSin 5th December 2005, 06:42 Quote
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Originally Posted by :: kna ::
One of the golden rules of CD players since, well... ever is never move the unit with it spinning.

I've read more than one comment where people say they've ruined discs by reorientating the Xbox with the drive going?! If I'm honest, yes, I'm not surprised at this.

This isn't a design fault, it's a user training issue.


No, its a design issue. I've bumped my ps2 several times while its been on its side and watched it whobble and nothing has happened to the disk. Hell, the only thing that made my ps2 etch a disk was dropping it from like 3 feet up (And that was ONCE out of like..5 times, and yes its still running, oddly). Normal cd-players can be used while jogging if they have a disk skip option and have not a single problem. If the 360 is etching disks while moving the thing, theres a serious problem.
:: kna :: 5th December 2005, 06:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by DivineSin
No, its a design issue. I've bumped my ps2 several times while its been on its side and watched it whobble and nothing has happened to the disk. Hell, the only thing that made my ps2 etch a disk was dropping it from like 3 feet up (And that was ONCE out of like..5 times, and yes its still running, oddly). Normal cd-players can be used while jogging if they have a disk skip option and have not a single problem. If the 360 is etching disks while moving the thing, theres a serious problem.
I disagree entirely.

PORTABLE CD-Players can be used whilst jogging, they're designed to be moved around. Also they only spin at 1x speed, which means that the force excerted on the disc is proportionally less.

The 360 is a massive lump of hardware which I'm sure can stand up to a bump, however if you're reorientating it (which obviously changes the mentioned force massively on the disc due to the spinning) then you can't expect a high-speed moving part inside not to suffer. I bet you it doesn't mark a single disc if people just leave the damn thing where it is.

Why on earth did you drop your PS2 five times? Just goes to show the extent that people seem to WANT to damage their equipment.
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