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Xbox 360 UK launch review

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Xen0phobiak 2nd December 2005, 13:55 Quote
"We'd go so far as to say that if you are limited to hooking up your 360 via SCART or composite, don't even bother buying it."

I'd agree with you, but you forgot to mention that thats only for lcd users. I'm sure it looks fine via RGB scart on a decent crt.
WilHarris 2nd December 2005, 14:00 Quote
Nope. Looks no better than the original Xbox - we tried it... the colour bleed etc is awful.
BioSniper 2nd December 2005, 14:07 Quote
great review. Makes me want one even more :(

Sadly however im limited to scart on my Sony TV though I guess I could go for VGA via my TFT and that would provide a better image (which was the original plan anyway)?
Nature 2nd December 2005, 14:20 Quote
I hate that thing. It's the Devil!!!! The Devil!!!!!!!!!!!

Now gimmie 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
atanum141 2nd December 2005, 14:26 Quote
ermmm...i loved the review but the HDD is a SATA not IDE..its been documented on Anand's site.
:: kna :: 2nd December 2005, 14:36 Quote
Well I'm certainly not buying one now until I can test the quality on my telly somehow before I part with the cash.

I ain't upgrading my perfectly good CRT for a LONG time.
WilHarris 2nd December 2005, 14:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by atanum141
ermmm...i loved the review but the HDD is a SATA not IDE..its been documented on Anand's site.

thx
pranks7er 2nd December 2005, 14:54 Quote
whats the waitin list like now in UK

amazon have 11-12 week until dispatched!! what are other shops like?? oh so if i buy an xbox 360 i need new telly too to reap the full 360 experience!!

oh if someone can post call of duty shots, thats first game i would like to buy if i buy a 360! played the pre release of the game - loved it!!
Tim S 2nd December 2005, 14:57 Quote
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Originally Posted by :: kna ::
Well I'm certainly not buying one now until I can test the quality on my telly somehow before I part with the cash.

I ain't upgrading my perfectly good CRT for a LONG time.
That's exactly my feelings too - I want to see what it looks like on my Rear Projection TV, as I'm not looking to upgrade that until HDTV is reasonably heavily used across Digital Terrestrial television. The same goes for PS3 too, the one that I'm more likely to buy unless it's really a turd.
Dodge 2nd December 2005, 15:29 Quote
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/XBOX-360-PREMIUM-FULL-PACKAGE-GAMES-BUNDLE_W0QQitemZ8239086792QQcategoryZ112848QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

You must be mad to pay that much for a console. HDTV is a must before I purchase one, and thats going to be a long time coming. They cost soo much more than standard high quality CRT's. It will be "full" hd tv soon anyway, used to be "buy a tv every 10 years" now its buy one every 3-4 years. :/ sorry for offtopicness.

I have played on them the last couple of weeks and it does look realy impressive on those samsung tv's they have for their displays, we take your advice and wait. Especially to see if the ammount of faulty box's is more than the 3% microsoft claim.

I have heard they run "hot" hows your findings on this. Sorry if you said in article, im at uni and am just having a quick browse
Jordanis3r 2nd December 2005, 16:47 Quote
my freind is playing his at work as we speak - no fair I say, fortunately I bought a 32 inch hdtv from samsung - the same one as the demo rigs have so he is forced to come round mine tonight for hours of thrashing ...

personally do I want one? yes I do, even tho I need MCE more at present and I still stick to the mouse n kboard combo on my gaming rig - will they release one for cd 2? I hope so ...
mclean007 2nd December 2005, 16:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by Xen0phobiak
"We'd go so far as to say that if you are limited to hooking up your 360 via SCART or composite, don't even bother buying it."

I'd agree with you, but you forgot to mention that thats only for lcd users. I'm sure it looks fine via RGB scart on a decent crt.
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Originally Posted by mrhaz
Nope. Looks no better than the original Xbox - we tried it... the colour bleed etc is awful.
I think this confuses the issue. The SCART connection standard can carry both composite and RGB. If your TV only accepts composite over SCART, then you will have to use the Xbox 360's composite out, and I imagine colour bleed and so forth might be a problem. If, on the other hand, your TV can accept RGB (i.e. component) in either HD or SD over SCART, you could use the Xbox 360's component output and should get equal picture quality to a discreet 3x phono component connection. It is just a different physical connection standard - the signal is identical.
Bindibadgi 2nd December 2005, 17:01 Quote
Usually TVs have one RGB SCART and one Composite SCART. If you used a decent quality SCART cable I'm sure you could get pretty good picture quality if you're still subject to only being able to use that.
I wonder how many people who bought Xbox 360s will be plugging them into their composite inputs on their 28" CRT TV? Quite a few I'd imagine seeing as Nintendo stopped supplying consoles with the digital output on the back seeing as 95%+ of its console users used composite. I'd hardly imagine that percentage reversed itself overnight, ESPECIALLY in the UK.
monkeyville 2nd December 2005, 17:44 Quote
Great article ;) So undecided if i want this or the PS3. Sony has been so proprietary recently and the idea of it not being quite so compatible with the rest of my hardware puts me off. You mention in the review that it connects with other systems. I assume this means an MCE pc? Will you be doing any other reviews with a run through about how the 360 interfaces with a pc?
alextwo 2nd December 2005, 17:48 Quote
So is composite SCART the three cables (video and two audio) and RGB the 21 pin connector?
<A88> 2nd December 2005, 18:11 Quote
composite=3
scart=http://www.flashbacksales.co.uk/acatalog/t_gscartplug.jpg

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FIBRE+ 2nd December 2005, 19:40 Quote
I havent had a chance to read the article yet but I had a quick go on one in Game, I played PGR3 for 2 mins and to be honest I thought it looked appauling (in contrast to latest pc titles)...

I need to have a proper look at the thing tomorrow and read the article, but my first impression on the graphics isnt good :(
DivineSin 2nd December 2005, 19:56 Quote
Its weird, but of reviews of the system i have seen (and the images of the games) i have come to one conclusion. The hardware in the system is one of the best consoles to be released so far (of course) but the games are nothing more than graphical upgrades to there xbox counterparts. However great they may be, you can still get the same or previous game on the xbox (ps2/gamecube) and really doesnt require an upgrade. I really wish they would release some excellent games along with the excellent hardware that were actually new and not just sequals.

However, Geometry Wars looks freaking amazing and i'm glad they are actually adding retro high def games to live.
Kipman725 2nd December 2005, 21:17 Quote
This things going to die in the Uk if it only looks good on HDTV as there are hardley any hidef tv's in peoples living rooms here as the channles haven't been launched yet :P
Also paying for normal multiplayer. LOL.
*fires up COD*

I don't know how you can award it an "excelence" award when there are no decent games for it and most people will only get graphics slightly better than an xbox.
Martinator 2nd December 2005, 21:41 Quote
About the tiny review on NFS:MW: There is no HDR. It's a mistake seen around the web, it's just overbright. And that ain't no HDR
Veles 3rd December 2005, 00:30 Quote
Man I want one of those. Did I imagine it or does the 360 come with a connector so I can hook it up to my monitor? If so that would be awesome! I'm in uni halls atm so I don't want to waste any extra room on a tv, my monitor is only 17" but I'm in halls, I only have about 17" of space :P

Oh and how does the rechargable pack work? Do you connect it to the USB?
Ah yea does it play ATRAC3/ATRAC3plus? No biggie if it don't.

I want to get this but....
1. It's not available for Xmas
2. No money to buy it after (might spend my student loan tho :))
3. Saving for a bitching rig
4. I tend to find consoles die after a year or 2 (especially the early ones), my PS2 did, my Xbox almost has died...lots of problems with Halo 2
5. Launch titles, quite fankly, don't interest me in the slightest. PGR3 sparked some interest, but not worth buying the console at this point for just 1 or 2 games. I'm sure many many great games will come out that I'll love but I just don't have much interest in the launch ones
6. I don't think I can connect to live in halls due to almost every port being blocked

This articles remined me of some fond memories of my terminally ill xbox. Was only this time last year I was tearing up the tarmac on live with PGR2. When the first decent FPS comes out this console will rule online. When oblivion comes out it will rule offline too :D

I think I'll get one of these sometime next year, or if I find my PC can't play oblivion (then I have to decide between a new rig and a 360 for my b'day in may or a 360 and no rig:? ). I read somewhere 45nm cores wil be used in the future of the 360 and will greatly reduce the cost. Is this true? If so when will this happen?

Great article ;) ;) ;) . I have been completely ignoring the gaming scene for a while (well all the hype/previews/etc. mainly due to WoW :P) but I think for the first time I'm really excited about the 360 and almost tempted to get one asap. Hell I want to build a HTPC too, just to get the MCE functionality out of it :P I've only just discovered Bit-tech but damn you do some good articles :)

Man I would kill for a game of online Ghost Recon right now, that game has forever remained one of my top all time favourites thanks to xbox live.
webchimp 3rd December 2005, 01:06 Quote
Strange that they've chosen off-white for the case colour, similar to that of an old 1980's IBM PC I've got kicking around. Is beige the new black?
Xen0phobiak 3rd December 2005, 01:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by alextwo
So is composite SCART the three cables (video and two audio) and RGB the 21 pin connector?

Basically yes.
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Originally Posted by Kipman725
Also paying for normal multiplayer. LOL.

The standard live subscription is free with the 360, so you can play online ;)

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Originally Posted by Veles
Man I want one of those. Did I imagine it or does the 360 come with a connector so I can hook it up to my monitor? If so that would be awesome! I'm in uni halls atm so I don't want to waste any extra room on a tv, my monitor is only 17" but I'm in halls, I only have about 17" of space :P

Oh and how does the rechargable pack work? Do you connect it to the USB?
Ah yea does it play ATRAC3/ATRAC3plus? No biggie if it don't.

You can buy VGA cables yes. The controllers/console come with charging cables that use the controller ports as far as I know. If thats whats on ipods, then yes.
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Originally Posted by webchimp
Strange that they've chosen off-white for the case colour, similar to that of an old 1980's IBM PC I've got kicking around. Is beige the new black?

Hence the fascias.
Neogumbercules 3rd December 2005, 09:08 Quote
Are you guys gonna do the same thing when PS3 comes out? I never really see any PS based news aricles on here.

I would like to go out on a limb here and say "HD is not essential". *gets shot*

Really though...yes, the image quality is definitely gonna be better on an HD over standard. However, its not gonna change the actual graphics of the game, the levels, models, and special effects are all still gonna be the same.

I think saying "You need an HDTV or don't bother getting an 360 or PS3" is a little extreme.

Sure, the picture will be a ton better but that's not gonna really matter when there are 5,000 (supposedly) aircraft flying around on screen in WarHawk, or when that giant monster bursts through the wall to stomp on you in Gears of War.
chiggyman 3rd December 2005, 10:37 Quote
Question on the video aspect, i have a 20inch LCD, it has a max res of 800x600 and has VGA and component inputs, i also have a 17inch LCD with a max res of 1280x1024 that just has a VGA input. Which would be the better option to use?
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