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BioShock was Unmissable

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Gunsmith 10th May 2010, 10:18 Quote
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BioShock was Unmissable

as an experiance yes, as a game; forgetable.
Phalanx 10th May 2010, 10:19 Quote
Strangely enough, I've not played Bioshock nor Bioshock 2 yet. I know, shoot me now...

*Goes to order both*
Tasslehoff 10th May 2010, 10:27 Quote
I missed this when it was first out

Need to try it out
El Rando 10th May 2010, 10:50 Quote
I tried the demo a few months after the release because all of my friends were raving about it, every review I read said it was amazing so I thought I'll download the demo (reason for the demo instead of rushing out to buy it like I usually do is because I didn't like the look of it). I am now glad I played the demo because I hated it. I dunno what it was I hated about it but I was having no fun so I didn't buy it. Annoyed me a bit because I seemed to be the only one who disliked it which meant there was something wrong with me, not the game. Ahhhh well guess it wasn't meant to be.
Pete J 10th May 2010, 10:57 Quote
Ah, I did enjoy Bioshock. Unfortunately, like many I expect, I found it was far too easy though. In the end I just ended up running around with my souped-up wrench that could freeze and shatter enemies (even Big Daddies).

I liked the final boss battle. It was a return to the 'old skool'; you against a super being that you had to dodge and pummel relentlessly.
NuTech 10th May 2010, 10:59 Quote
I've tried to play it twice, both times I stopped at the botanic area. That seems to be the point where I realise the game really isn't for me.
CardJoe 10th May 2010, 11:03 Quote
There are two bits of the games that always turn me off. The first is Hephasteus, where you have to assemble the bomb. I got stuck, lost there for ages when I did my original review and it was also where I first did the 'attack a big daddy right by a Vita-chamber so that you can't die and can kill it with your wrench' thing, so I had the worst of both worlds. The other bit I hate is becoming a big daddy because that whole bit is slow, tedious and bloody idiotic.
erratum1 10th May 2010, 11:07 Quote
I got it when it was first released and back then it was brilliant. The graphics, watching the little sisters lead around the big daddies while singing their spooky rhymes. Bit old now though.
sotu1 10th May 2010, 11:08 Quote
BioShock haters I take your points, the game might not have been for you, but really you have to get to that Twist of the game. It's such a crazy OMFG moment. Up there in the most defining moments of gaming for me.
GiantStickMan 10th May 2010, 11:11 Quote
I found that the narrative was too similar to System Shock 2 just with a fresh coat of paint. **SPOILERS AHEAD** For example, following the mystery voice who you think is your ally - no wait it's not. Don't get me wrong, I did enjoy the game but that plot twist was lessoned by the fact it felt too familiar.
wuyanxu 10th May 2010, 11:27 Quote
Bioshock 1 was fantastic experience, great game.

Bioshock 2, however, is like extended version of Bioshock 1's become a big daddy part, which im with Joe, not a fan of it.
Adnoctum 10th May 2010, 11:33 Quote
Sir.

I respectfully, but forcefully, disagree with everything that was positive in your article.
Shape up!

Yours, Adnoctum.
ev1lm1nd666 10th May 2010, 12:19 Quote
I've played it twice, first time as a good guy then as the *******, being good all the way through is a lot harder especially in the middle part of the game as you don't have anywhere near the health or power ups as you would if you play the baddie. I will admit i played the xbox version (my pc is almost up to the task but i lose too much eye candy) and i thought the game was brilliant, while it does drag a bit at the end i used this time to do a lot of research and get those last few achievments.....
Jack_Pepsi 10th May 2010, 12:29 Quote
I actually got bored of Bioshock (1) and never completed it.
Phil Rhodes 10th May 2010, 12:30 Quote
Anyone who thought this was "really good" should play System Shock 2 then come back to me.

Although to be fair most of the people who played Bioshock won't be able to play System Shock 2, because System Shock 2 wasn't made to be played on a twin-stick controller, with your feet. Thus it is difficult to get on with if, for instance, your idea of "aiming" is to stand on the spot, swivelling gracefully around one axis at a time. Then overshooting. And overcorrecting. And generally acting like a complete tool, which is what consoles make you do.
Yslen 10th May 2010, 12:30 Quote
I loved Bioshock, and I've played it through at least four times since I first completed it. Playing on the hardest setting with vita chambers disabled really improved the combat for me because I found I had to plan every fight: running in and shooting with whatever gun I had out at the time didn't work. Also big daddies became a real challenge, and having vita chambers disabled not only removed the game-ruining flaw mentioned in the article, it also meant I could see how my planning worked out then (after I died) modify the plan and try to improve it. Disabling vita chambers made the game harder but also much more fun, and I'm glad they added this option.

I also liked the second game a lot, though most people seem to think it was bland. The environments were less varied, and they're less memorable too, but the combat was improved in several ways, including the inclusion of more options for traps and ambushes, which worked perfectly with the style of playing I was used to from the first game - I went straight to hard and turned off respawning. There was no real twist, but I liked the choices given and the variety of endings. If anything bioshock 2 suffers because it lacks the originality of the first - but it's impossible to reproduce that originality without making a completely different game that has nothing to do with the first. I'm happy to accept that it's more of rapture, personally, and that's why I bought the sequel - I fell in love with the city the first time around, and it was great to see more of it. Even knowing what became of the place, if I were given the chance to holiday in rapture before the fall, I'd be right there.
CardJoe 10th May 2010, 12:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by Phil Rhodes
Anyone who thought this was "really good" should play System Shock 2 then come back to me.

Although to be fair most of the people who played Bioshock won't be able to play System Shock 2, because System Shock 2 wasn't made to be played on a twin-stick controller, with your feet. Thus it is difficult to get on with if, for instance, your idea of "aiming" is to stand on the spot, swivelling gracefully around one axis at a time. Then overshooting. And overcorrecting. And generally acting like a complete tool, which is what consoles make you do.

I played System Shock 2 and I still think BioShock is pretty good, on the whole. Weaknesses, sure, but System Shock 2 wasn't perfect either. Nostalgia always stops us looking back at SS2 fairly.

http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/pc/2010/02/18/your-favourite-game-was-rubbish/1
impar 10th May 2010, 12:32 Quote
Greetings!

Bioshock...
Overhyped and with mouse problems.

Benefited a lot for the time it was released (end of Summer), before the holidays blockbusters came.
Yslen 10th May 2010, 12:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
I played System Shock 2 and I still think BioShock is pretty good, on the whole. Weaknesses, sure, but System Shock 2 wasn't perfect either. Nostalgia always stops us looking back at SS2 fairly.

http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/pc/2010/02/18/your-favourite-game-was-rubbish/1

Agreed. Every time I go back to an old game thinking "this is going to be great" I realise there were loads of things I didn't like about it that I conveniently forgot about.
Unknownsock 10th May 2010, 12:53 Quote
i thought it was a great game but when you get to the third area (the green ish one, with the grass and tropics), it just becomes so slow. Tried to play it twice and always get stuck there.

Bioshock 2 just enforces thaty idea but very early on..
Phil Rhodes 10th May 2010, 12:59 Quote
BioShock was pretty good, it was just heavily-nerfed for the console crowd and that's a massive shame.

The same thing applies to Far Cry 2 - not trying to be the same kind of game at all, of course, but I interpreted it as a spirited attempt to do something rather special that was destroyed by the demands of five year olds with Playstations.

As you may have realised, I resent this.
pimlicosound 10th May 2010, 13:34 Quote
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Originally Posted by Phil Rhodes
BioShock was pretty good, it was just heavily-nerfed for the console crowd and that's a massive shame.

The same thing applies to Far Cry 2 - not trying to be the same kind of game at all, of course, but I interpreted it as a spirited attempt to do something rather special that was destroyed by the demands of five year olds with Playstations.

As you may have realised, I resent this.

I don't agree at all. The flaws in Bioshock, highlighed in this article, have nothing to do with the demands of catering to console-owning demographics. You're just using console owners as a scapegoat rather than giving due thought to why the flaws were present and what should have been done to correct them.

Consider the flaws again: wonky shooting, repetitive later sections, typical final boss - none of these are features that can be said to appeal to console gamers, so blaming the console demographic for their appearance is just silly.

I suspect the causes of these problems were a lack of experience in developing tight FPS controls, tight release deadlines and an understandably less-than-perfect combination of ambition and imagination.

Also, your description of console gamers as "five year olds" is a bit weak and, if I may say so (with irony fully intended), a bit childish.
[USRF]Obiwan 10th May 2010, 13:36 Quote
Remembering the wide-screen problem, remembering the awful drm dilema's around the game, the ever repeating mini pipe games for every goddamn door/chest whatever.

But it was a 'nice' late night vacation filler that I 'needed' to complete just to see how it ends.
bodkin 10th May 2010, 13:40 Quote
I loved the first Bioshock. I plaid the first 5 mins of bioshock 2 and for some reason it disgusted me. Not touched it since...
Sleepstreamer 10th May 2010, 13:43 Quote
Could'nt get through Bioshock either, just got bored after a couple of hours.

I badly want another System Shock game :/
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