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Remembering the Sega Dreamcast

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Jack_Pepsi 29th September 2009, 09:33 Quote
^^

One of the most underrated consoles ever! I wasn't fortunate to own one but I remember playing on my friend's and I was so incredibly jealous. When I witnessed Soul Calibur for the first time my jaw hit the floor. Also Shenmue (I & II) had to be one of the best games there was for the Dreamcast.

Thanks for the article guys!
ChEsTeH 29th September 2009, 09:40 Quote
I bought one of these on Launch day - still has a fond place in my heart had some wicked times with my mates on this. Special mention to House of the dead 2 with it's light gun ! Good Times. :D
Chr!s 29th September 2009, 09:41 Quote
I had a Dreamcast within 2 weeks of them being released, remember it really fondly. I can't however remember how I managed to afford it, at the age of 13, must of been the paper round.

I will always remember the day I turned off the "Adult Content" filter, hooked it up to my phone line and had my first experience of FHM online. :o
M7ck 29th September 2009, 09:49 Quote
A great console, I think i still have mine in the loft. Best game for me was Virtua Tennis. Very involving, although crippled your thumbs.
Hugo 29th September 2009, 09:53 Quote
Thanks to Crazy Taxi I still can't listen to The Offspring while driving for fear of going on a crazed rampage. True story!
mi1ez 29th September 2009, 09:58 Quote
@hugoB I have similar problems with Trackmania. I don't think My stilo will ever hit 720mph though...

Where's Chu-Chu Rocket(sp?)?! I played that game for hours and hours and even got it on the GBA for long journeys!
Mentai 29th September 2009, 09:58 Quote
Wow 10 years ago... that means I would have been 10 when I first played crazy taxi. That game was amazingly awesome for an hour, then me and my mate went back to MGS on PS1 haha.

I remember thinking though that Marvel vs Capcom 2 was the best looking game ever and wanted it more than anything. I never understood why there weren't more fantastic looking 2d sprite games instead of shoddy 3d graphics in everything. Even today, something like Muramasa: Demon Blade looks far better than any other wii game.
The RAM 29th September 2009, 10:05 Quote
I think I was almost kicked out of the store that had one of these on display. Had been playing it too long! :D
chimaera 29th September 2009, 10:17 Quote
I picked up my first Dreamcast when it was near End of Life about 7-8 years ago - the hardware price dropped hard to an even £100 (including a game too). Fantastic machine, ended up buying another about four years ago on ebay after the first one died. Some absolute classic games in its history.

As an impoverished student the lack of copy protection was nice, although I did make an effort to buy the games I really liked like Soul Calibur and Virtua Tennis.
Blademrk 29th September 2009, 10:25 Quote
I loved Quake 3 arena on the DC. Would have thought you guys would have liked it too, especially since you could use a DC Keyboard and mouse (and I know how you guys prefer K/M for fps games), ok it limits you to 2 (local) players since the keyboard and mouse will take a joypad port each, but still for single player it was ace.

Still got a load of games for mine, Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver, Power Stone, Sonic Adventure, Chu Chu Rocket (which Sega gave away free for regestering your console if I remember correctly).

edit: Soul Calibur on the XBLA is no substitute for the original DC version (unlocks are already unlocked, and a lot of the content has been cut)
Tyrmot 29th September 2009, 10:33 Quote
Wot, no Jet Set Radio or Shenmue?

Surely two of the most innovative games for the Dreamcast, if not any console ever! And then there was Phantasy Star Online - one of the original MMOs... And as Blademrk says, Power Stone was unbelievably fun as well! Why aren't these franchises getting revived for this generation one wonders...

A real shame it didn't last the race, I'd love to have seen Sega stay in the hardware game. Ah well, RIP DC
xaser04 29th September 2009, 10:34 Quote
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Originally Posted by Blademrk
I loved Quake 3 arena on the DC. Would have thought you guys would have liked it too, especially since you could use a DC Keyboard and mouse (and I know how you guys prefer K/M for fps games), ok it limits you to 2 (local) players since the keyboard and mouse will take a joypad port each, but still for single player it was ace.

Agreed, I am suprised this wasn't picked up on in the review. I loved Quake 3 Arena on the DC and got quite good indeed (railgun sniping whilst in mid air FTW!).
Mankz 29th September 2009, 10:39 Quote
God... The graphics look amazing for 10 years old....

**stares at PS2 that doesn't even work anymore**
Bauul 29th September 2009, 10:51 Quote
Fantastic console. IIRC, it had native AA, which even most new consoles can't manage. I'm glad you included Code Veronica, it's easilly one of the best of the Res Evil series and a true forgotten classic. The Ashford twins were genuinely scary (and one cross dressed!).

Wasn't Shenmue originally designed as a 10 game epic? When they didn't produce an english dubbed version of number two you kind of knew it was all over. Shame it never really got out of the starting blocks, no. one was a truley classic RPG. I kind of want to go buy one again now just to relive the truley awesome Crazy Taxi sound track.
blood69 29th September 2009, 10:54 Quote
I had mine in the 1st Christmas after the release, i had 13 years old.
I remember to spot 2 or 3 weeks before the 25 of December a Box under the Tree. Every day i had to undo the box paper, play the game demos and put it all together before my mom went home.
The games i played most was Sonic Adventures, Soul Caliber, Tokyo Highway Challenge, Sega GT, Metropolis Street Racer, Shenmue, Jet Set Radio, Quake 3, Dead or Alive, Incoming and many more that i can't remember right now.
Unfortunately i contribute to the death of the Dreamcast when i broth a CD-RW to my computer.
Casualty i play old Dreamcast games using an emulator and 360 game pad, but its not the same thing.
I literally play until destruction, i remember like today, i was playing Sonic Adventures 2 with Shadow at a vertiginous speed (lol) and the screen went black. I restart the console and nothing, it was like payback for coping its games.
Abhorsen 29th September 2009, 11:10 Quote
Happy Birthday Dreamcast! Part of my childhood i'll always look fondly upon!

Metropolis Street racer! What a GAME! Jet set radio as said above and i still remember crazy taxi while demolishing Super noodles!

NFL Blitz was so good for multiplayer with your mates, i'm not an NFL fan but that was the most entertaining American Football game ever! Late, late tackles! Argh, i think he broke my leg!
sandys 29th September 2009, 11:21 Quote
Had mine right up until PS3 launch week when I finally decided to trade it in, dreamcast, 2 controllers, 4 mem cards, DC Blaze VGA box, 13-16 games (can't remember) including light gun and all I got was a sixaxis and resistance. :(
Cruelinios 29th September 2009, 11:34 Quote
This is why I love Bit-Tech, the DC was an awesome console and remember drooling when I first read rumors of it. Reading this article has sent me on an eBay rampage and you can pick them up for dirt cheap now, some Crazy Taxi action may be needed again
goldstar0011 29th September 2009, 11:49 Quote
Still have mine
flibblesan 29th September 2009, 11:50 Quote
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At that time Microsoft was putting an early DirectX API into a specifically coded variant of Windows CE (which eventually ran the console)

The Dreamcast could run games programmed using Windows CE but it wasn't the Dreamcasts OS.
flibblesan 29th September 2009, 12:01 Quote
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Despite having a unique GD-ROM that could squeeze 1.2GB onto a “dual layer” CD, most games were under 700MB – that was a CD recordable size, and so games were easily copied. A couple of years later, Sony somewhat combatted the piracy issue with its PS2, which used DVDs. It was a few more years still before recordable DVD-Rs were available on a large scale - to pirate on a PS2, it usually took a very steady soldering iron and a mod chip, rather than a simple disc swap

The Dreamcast has a GDROM drive which reads both GD-ROMs and CDs. SEGA provided support for Audio CDs and what it named MIL-CD. The whole point of MIL-CD was to add multimedia functions to Audio CDs but hackers found a loophole using this that allowed the Dreamcast to boot unsigned code. GD-ROM games were copied to CD using a crude cable linking the Dreamcast to the PC which either used the modem or the Broadband adapter. Larger games could be split onto multiple CDs also. The Utopia boot disc was released which allowed booting the copied games which was the main method until Kalisto (not to be confused with the old games company) perfected self-booting games.

A lot of people believe that if SEGA didn't provide this MIL-CD feature then piracy for the Dreamcast would have been a lot lower. However I personally believe it ended up being a lifeline for the Dreamcast as it allowed the console to remain popular even in 2009 due to the large homebrew community (which use the MIL-CD exploit to create bootable games).

References:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil-CD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopia_bootdisk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalisto

and if you are interested in creating Dreamcast games, check out http://gamedev.allusion.net/softprj/kos/
chimaera 29th September 2009, 12:08 Quote
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Originally Posted by flibblesan
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At that time Microsoft was putting an early DirectX API into a specifically coded variant of Windows CE (which eventually ran the console)

The Dreamcast could run games programmed using Windows CE but it wasn't the Dreamcasts OS.

yes it was - the Dreamcast ram an optimized WinCE OS with DirectX bolted on.
flibblesan 29th September 2009, 12:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by chimaera
yes it was - the Dreamcast ram an optimized WinCE OS with DirectX bolted on.

The Dreamcast was compatible with Windows CE (hence the 'Compatible with Windows CE' sticker). Some games, like Sega Rally 2, were written using Windows CE libraries.

"The operating system used by some Dreamcast titles was developed by Microsoft after 2 years of work with Sega. It was an optimized version of Windows CE supporting Direct X"

Note that it says some. Only some games used Windows CE as it was found to be a lot slower than using the Dreamcast development kit and eventually developers stopped using it.

So if the game was written with Windows CE then the Dreamcast would be running Windows CE (as it would be on the game disc) but it doesn't run on Windows CE.
SNIPERMikeUK 29th September 2009, 12:37 Quote
How can u do a Dreamcast retrospective without Capcom's Power Stone?
V3ctor 29th September 2009, 13:16 Quote
Still have mine, I look at it every day :D Just waiting on a VGA Box to connect it to my LCD and have many hours of fun...
One great console...
...that still lives...
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