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Shirty 21st September 2012, 12:12 Quote
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Originally Posted by whamio
Rating a game is simple, look at the hours played. Steam says I played Borderlands 990 hrs...that's a Great game. Borderlands 2 gets a buy rec. on that alone.



You spent more time playing Borderlands than I've spent playing all the games in my Steam library since 2004. That is 41 days and 6 hours of continuous gaming. Just wow!

I'll refrain from giving commentary on the underlying reasons why anyone would play a game that much, I'm simply expressing my surprise.
Adnoctum 21st September 2012, 13:04 Quote
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I love you Joe, and I'll never ever abuse you or think poorly of your creative output ever again.
You do whatever you want, focus on any aspect of a game you choose, take a stylised, narrative approach to your review, get side-tracked into reminiscing about another game...anything you want.
Just never leave me...ok? Please?
I know you weren't linking that for serious discussion but I just had to rant. It wouldn't be healthy going throughout the day with that rage sitting around.
I know it is the Wall Street Journal, and I know you shouldn't expect much in depth reporting of gaming matters in such a publication, and you shouldn't expect a full time game reviewer, but still...

He's the WSJ Digital Editor for Asia, not some summer intern. An experienced journalist of whatever speciality, even one writing outside of their experience, shouldn't produce crap like that. That is in no way an informed and objective review of Borderlands 2. It isn't even up to the standard of a blog (which, if you look at the IRL, is what it was).

In his 2010 review of Halo: Reach he says "I haven’t played a first-person shooter since Castle Wolfenstein came out on 3.5-inch floppy disks". No sh*t, it shows!

In his 2010 review of Fable III he said "Overall, though, I don’t like games that force you down a particular path. In this game, your every course is illuminated by a glowing dust trail – like emergency aisle lighting on an airplane. While it’s nice to not have to memorize locations or read a map, exploring is often half the fun of adventure and role-playing games." But...but that is what he loves about COD:Blops, and what he didn't like about Borderlands 2! He said he didn't like the big maps and the exploring.

In his 2011 review of Resistance 3 he once again uses COD:Blops as a point of reference, that is how shallow his gaming experience is. He seems to think that common console controls were invented/innovated by COD or something.

I don't have a problem with him having an opinion that COD:Blops is better than Borderlands 2, or that he just flat doesn't like Borderlands 2. But he puts himself out there as a game reviewer and he can't even articulate his arguments properly, or even tell the difference between what sort of game Borderlands is and what sort of game COD is. Other than the FPS perspective, there is very little similarity. He can't even tell the difference between the two games multiplayer types.

You know what I found to be the WORST part of his review? "The game’s opening sequence reminds you that Borderlands’ developers chose to go the animation route, and I don’t like it very much. The game isn’t manga-like enough to be super-hip, so instead, it just feels cartoonish." Super-hip? And manga is the only style of animation that is hip enough to produce games in?

He obviously couldn't have known how much of a manure storm he'd stir up, as the most comments his previous reviews has gathered was about 100. His Borderlands 2 review has gathered over 3200 and every one of them is negative criticism of his reviewing skills.

As much as we may agree or disagree with Joe's opinions of games in his reviews, or even how writes his reviews, we at least all recognise that he has the broad experience to be a fully informed and capable reviewer. Although I might nitpick certain details, I mostly agree with what he writes.
And that is why I don't think I should take him for granted. Or the other reviewers who contribute to Bit-tech.

Edited afterthought: It really brings into question just how competant journalism and the news stories we read/view are. We as an audience really don't have a broad expertise to properly evaluate the news we consume. I have a field of expertise (other than games and gaming, as I'm sure most or all people here do) and I can say that both politicians and news reports are pretty poor and rather shallow at understanding and reporting on that area.
All kinds of traditional media outlets are under pressure to maintain profits. Staff are getting laid off in huge numbers, journalists who used to specialise and focus on a single area are being forced to cover multiple areas of responsibility in which they may have little understanding, knowledge or interest.
gosh 23rd September 2012, 05:07 Quote
have to agree with the comments - your entire review is about how meaningless and bland this game is, you drop a couple of good points in the last paragraph and all of a sudden an 85% appears when i was expecting you to land it a 50% or so.

agree with the 85% score, game is very similar to the original (though story is better and you feel a bit more connected to your character and their place in the world, plus the tiny addition of being able to mark loot keep or trash is so useful) but don't like this review - a PC hardware & modding site had nothing to say about the brilliant and highly customisable visuals, you barely touch on the fact that the writing elevates this game so much (script, enemy dialogue, even quest names constantly make me laugh especially jack - amusing yet menacing) and the fact remains it's just a damn lot of fun to play as you explode, melt and loot your way across a really interesting planet full of quirky memorable characters.
SexyHyde 23rd September 2012, 14:52 Quote
Anyone interested in a premium preorder steam code for £22.50 let me know as I have had someone pull out of a four pack.
whamio 30th September 2012, 03:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by Shirty
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Originally Posted by whamio
Rating a game is simple, look at the hours played. Steam says I played Borderlands 990 hrs...that's a Great game. Borderlands 2 gets a buy rec. on that alone.



You spent more time playing Borderlands than I've spent playing all the games in my Steam library since 2004. That is 41 days and 6 hours of continuous gaming. Just wow!

I'll refrain from giving commentary on the underlying reasons why anyone would play a game that much, I'm simply expressing my surprise.

yeah bit much but then i'm a geezer, and have lived a full life. ... house is always full of teens the neighborhood hang out .....so i play while keeping an eye on things....
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