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Counter-Strike: Global Offensive review

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Bauul 25th August 2012, 12:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by Dwarfer
I think it's good but not 99% good! More 85%. There are annoyances ie only 1 frag per person really Valve... I mean really?

I might be misreading your post but classic Counter Strike has always been about one life per round. Complaining about that is like having a go at Tetris because the blocks only come from one direction.
fdbh96 25th August 2012, 13:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bauul
I might be misreading your post but classic Counter Strike has always been about one life per round. Complaining about that is like having a go at Tetris because the blocks only come from one direction.

In COD, players only have one life in search and destroy, but as many as they like in others. It would be good if they had a game type where you had as many lives as you wanted.
Ljs 25th August 2012, 14:01 Quote
There is, it is called Death Match.

Don't own CS:GO yet so I'm not sure if it is on there but if it isn't I'm pretty sure it will be soon.
S1W1 25th August 2012, 14:11 Quote
I've been playing a lot of CS:GO over the last week and it's certainly a fantastic game, but as a regular player of CS:S I'm not particularly excited. It's just CS:S with slightly improved graphics, a more straight-forward server selection system and gun game has been renamed arms race. Plus there are a couple of new guns and grenades, but the AWP still dominates all else ;)

I suppose CS:GO is great because they've not deviated from the original, brilliant formula- and I'd probably be the first to complain about the satanic nature of the developers if they had changed the game too much- but it just doesn't feel much different to me. Plus I was very dissapointed to see there is no ZM or ZE zombie action built into the game- although no doubt those will appear very soon from the community.

It's like a hardcore version of a sports car- it's the same car just with bigger rims, a few more horse power and slightly harder suspension. And lots of stickers and shiny new paint. But it's still much the same car at the end of the day. And since it was a great car to begin with, it's now an even better car... it's just not that exciting for someone who already drives the less sporty version of the car every day.
Clesm 25th August 2012, 14:18 Quote
Looks good shame you cant actually buy it...
nchhabs 25th August 2012, 15:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by Clesm
Looks good shame you cant actually buy it...

'Eh? It's available on Steam as of a couple days ago.
Hovis 25th August 2012, 17:01 Quote
The thing with innovating Counter Strike is that it's like innovating football. You might add goal line technology, or you might change the way injury time is calculated, but you don't mess with the core. CS is like that, you refine, you don't change.

Been playing bits of it and damn, it's beautiful. So sharp compared to CoD/BF/Halo etc. It feels like you're playing a game, rather than playing a character in a game, the controls are that precise and immediate. This is the sort of immersion that I love and that has been lacking from a lot of games in recent years, that sense of oneness with the avatar, even if the world itself isn't necessarily realistic. Even without the ability to go prone or use iron sights in CSS I feel like I have more control of the character than any other game.

The format is something I've missed too. The short, fast rounds keep every match tense, especially when even a team under the kosh is just a lucky head-shot and a stolen weapon away from turning the game on it's head.
Clesm 25th August 2012, 17:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by nchhabs
'Eh? It's available on Steam as of a couple days ago.

Cant find it in physical format anywhere though
DriftCarl 25th August 2012, 17:37 Quote
I dont understand how this can get 99%. Sure the visuals are better, but unless I am missing something or joining the wrong servers. The game play is worse than CSS, What happened to the silencers? What happened to the physics, the barrels dont move anymore, you cant shoot little bottles off the crates or shoot plantpots or dell computers.
I was pretty dissapointed with CSGO, I expected improvements to the game play, not a big massive stalling of it.
shuffle 25th August 2012, 20:42 Quote
Thanks Driftcarl.. comments like these get me a real review. Can you still see those chickens in the market area in Italy? I did somewhere that once you shoot someone in a round that the body doesnt disappear. Thats a cool touch. Doesnt feel clinical. (Bethesda add that in Skyrim and Fallout 4)
DriftCarl 25th August 2012, 23:27 Quote
to be honest I havnt played much at all after the first few days,
One thing hasnt changed, and thats the AI and pathing of the hostages, it still sucks :p
The maps have changed, dust has an additional path up from the underpass, and in italy the cellar is gone in its original form, and no, there are no chickens anywhere to be seen.
Havn't really played any other maps much, most of the servers that I amanged to join had dust and dust2 playing in rotation.

It was only a tenner though, I cant comment on the other modes because I havnt played them, but for me its going to be a casual game at best. I wanted to get back into joining a clan and playing in some leagues, but after playing for a few hours, its not something I want to invest my time in anymore.
yodasarmpit 26th August 2012, 00:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by Clesm
Cant find it in physical format anywhere though

Why is that an issue?

Been playing this quite a bit over the past few days, and have to say it has reinvigorated my love for CS.
However, what the hell have they did to cs_assault??

What's great is I don't feel like such a noob this time around as I did when I started on 1.5, although it is some ten years later :)
The Toy 26th August 2012, 01:20 Quote
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Originally Posted by DriftCarl
I dont understand how this can get 99%. Sure the visuals are better, but unless I am missing something or joining the wrong servers. The game play is worse than CSS, What happened to the silencers? What happened to the physics, the barrels dont move anymore, you cant shoot little bottles off the crates or shoot plantpots or dell computers.
I was pretty dissapointed with CSGO, I expected improvements to the game play, not a big massive stalling of it.

Totally agree. The thing that made CS:S nice was the crisp environments that you fought in. If you shot open the computer you could actually see the motherboard inside and a little GPU etc. That sort of attention to detail is missing from the new game, which feels rushed to me.

All of the weapons feel like plastic toys after playing BF3 or KF. The animations are poor, the characters look like hunch-back cartoons, and the movement feels like I'm on roller-skates (like L4D2). The only positive thing I have to say about the game is that the comp/casual split is nice, but had that been implemented into CS:S then this game would have nothing to offer PC gamers at all. It just seems like an unnecessary and premature addition to the CS family.
Lockinvar 26th August 2012, 10:08 Quote
It's good. I dunno about 99% good, because it's really the same thing it's always been (and that was also very good)... But I guess when I try and think of any way to make it better I come up with nothing.

Plus I've got to love the huge influx of head-shot fodder a new iteration brings >:)
Deathwalker1701 26th August 2012, 14:29 Quote
Just a question never played counterstrike and its a while that i played on line but love the idea.
what the best way to start playing
The Toy 26th August 2012, 15:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by Deathwalker1701
Just a question never played counterstrike and its a while that i played on line but love the idea.
what the best way to start playing

I would say this is the perfect CS game for you. For ten pounds it's a great way in for beginners.
MjFrosty 27th August 2012, 09:00 Quote
I read this the other day, but wasn't going to be the first to comment, no sir.

I enjoy this game, granted. But 99%? No logic...at all.
Waynio 27th August 2012, 10:31 Quote
I'll pick it up in a sale but only because I still don't know if I'll ever get back into multiplayer gaming, if I still did multiplayer I'd be all over this. :)

It's about time they given it an upgrade. :D
Waynio 27th August 2012, 10:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by MjFrosty
I read this the other day, but wasn't going to be the first to comment, no sir.

I enjoy this game, granted. But 99%? No logic...at all.

Think there is actually :D they don't want a wave of hate coming at them from legions of obsessive counterstrike fans for giving an average or below average score, some CS fans are complete raging nuts. :)

But besides that it's not a £40 game & priced like an Indy game & it's a huge classic with gigantic player base with good support from steam & without a silly extra system they have to make an extra account for so 99% is actually well justified really, some people will get thousands of hours out of CS so the asking price for the game is absolutely dirt cheap which is a big bonus points element on game scores. :)
ProAken 27th August 2012, 11:35 Quote
99% are you insane the game is terrible its just better graphics and a few new guns that don't differ much from the usual garbage weapons you get in source and 1.6, valve clearly was afraid to try something new because of the whiny bitch-fest fanbase it's acquired over the years a simple concept like aiming down the sights isn't even added (even black mesa source has this feature...) come like....im not arguing cod is better or anything like that but keeping up with the times for simple mechanics isnt going to break the game...much..
KiNETiK 27th August 2012, 14:30 Quote
I'm going to play devils advocate here and question the 99% scoring and bias.

Here is an extract from the end of the MW3 review by bit-tech:

"If frankly compared both to its peers and predecessors, then, it's clear that Modern Warfare 3 is not a terrible game, but its stubborn refusal to improve means that it's been rapidly outpaced even as it retains the moreishness of its multiplayer component. There's no identifiable reason to play Modern Warfare 3 over the earlier titles, and discerning buyers will definitely find cheaper or older games into which they can sink just as much time.

Modern Warfare 3 is ultimately a zero sum game when compared to its predecessors, and the only deciding factor is the disappointing amount of time it's taken to change precisely nothing."

A popular game gets slated for being the same as previous games in the series - 55%

In comparison, the CS GO review finishes by acknowledging the lack of change but then slapping 99% on it! Where is the logic in this?

Now I am not a MW3 fan and I played CS in its varies forms since beta 5.2 and thoroughly enjoyed it BUT to me CS GO is very little more than a make over of an old game with very little in the way of new content. I just can't handle playing 10 year old maps such as dust anymore. OK so the game mechanics of CS are totally different to something like MW but what gives Valve the right to get a 99% score for a game that is pretty much identical to its previous incarnations, yet when the likes of Activision do the same thing and give people what they want, they get a score much less..

I would say mid 80s score is more accurate to acknowledge a game which has super tight game mechanics but has taken over 10 years+ to nail and multiple game iterations with a distinct lack of new content.

One rule for CS another rule for every other game? Easy to jump on bandwagons. I am just putting across an alternative view of the scoring..
azrael- 27th August 2012, 14:38 Quote
Because Valve charges 10 GBP instead of 50 GBP for it?
Buster` 27th August 2012, 14:47 Quote
You also forgot that Valve don't release it every year.
KiNETiK 27th August 2012, 14:47 Quote
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Originally Posted by azrael-
Because Valve charges 10 GBP instead of 50 GBP for it?

So charging £10 is enough to justify a 99% score? As an aside, according to Bit-tech MW3 was 34.99 when they reviewed it.
Buster` 27th August 2012, 14:49 Quote
Plus, Valve doesn't release it as a new game every year.
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