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dolphie 19th August 2012, 05:17 Quote
It's like 5 different games rolled in to one, and some of it is totally horrible, some of it is better than you can get anywhere else.

The problem with Arma2 is that it's extremely unwelcoming, and the demo makes this even worse. All the people who give it a quick shot and see it run like crap on their computer and it feels weird or whatever, they just quit and never come back. It's a shame because the game is amazing and you can get it work great but it takes some time and effort to get there, something which not many people can be bothered to do, or know is even possible. And that's not me criticising the people, it's totally Bohemia Interactive's fault for doing such a bad job at this stuff. But that doesn't take away the fact that if you stick with it and uncover the good stuff, it's really mindblowingly good..

My PC is a bit weaker than the one listed above, and I can almost crank the game and get great frame rates and it's stunning looking. At times I think it looks better than BF3. But you have to do the right stuff to get to that point.

@ Tattysnuc:
It's nothing like Battlefield and a million miles away from Crysis. There are lots of different game modes and some like Deathmatch which will play similar to those other games, but they aren't what Arma2 was really designed to do and you would be better off playing BF3 for that kind of thing and Arma2's version of that stuff is a bit plain and not really in its comfort zone.

What Arma2 is all about though, is gigantic scale combat. It's a simulation so you don't just respawn and then run in to battle. You start off at HQ and have to travel maybe 20 miles to where you need to be. You could go on foot but it could take hours, but there is a whole range of vehicles and aircraft. In multiplayer you sometimes rely on other people too. Maybe you will get in a tank and then you can call for someone in a chopper to come and airlift you closer to where you need to be. Maybe you will want to be in the chopper. You can even do both in some modes and you just jump out the tank, climb in the chopper, and airlift your own tank to where you want to be. There are also helicopter gunships and jets and tons of other vehicles.

There is even more to it than that, for example you can control entire squads or armies yourself, even in multiplayer with a hundred other people, and they too might have their own armies... battalions of tanks or whatever else. There's also a bit of construction too, in some modes there is a commander who builds an entire base and it's really interesting how that works. And other people if you buy certain vehicles you can construct things like gun emplacements or machine gun nests or Anti Air tripods, sandbags, or whatever else. There really is no other game that even comes close to what Arma2 can do.

The single player in Arma2 is pretty worthless. If you were determined enough to struggle your way through with it, you will get an ok-ish example of some of the game's features. But really, many people blame the campaign for scaring off countless people who would have otherwise become big fans - just because they assumed that if the single player is bad, then the multiplayer surely can't be that great either. Unlike most other games, the multiplayer really is about 1000 times better.

You can however do various tutorials and one off singleplayer scenario missions to learn the game, before you delve in to the multiplayer.

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Originally Posted by sotu1
Is it just me, but is anyone else not overly impressed by their 'photorealistic' graphics? They kinda look dated to me.

The ones in this article are strangely meh. But I think the graphics are mind blowingly amazing. Check out some of these:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=arma+3+screenshots&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=f2H&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&prmd=imvnsu&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=flwwUPaaGeLO0QXjrIHoDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=871
Tattysnuc 19th August 2012, 11:01 Quote
Thanks guys. Either way I look at it, it looks like the sort of game you have to invest a lot of time in playing it? Is that true?
Skulldragon 19th August 2012, 19:31 Quote
Well, I was able to enjoy playing Arma 2 after not long at all, but if you want to really get the most from these games, then yes, you have to invest a lot of time in playing them. I would say the investment is well worth it, though of course I can't speak for everyone.
modfx 20th August 2012, 01:46 Quote
I'll probably pick this up (if available on the cheap), play it for a bit and then it will remain untouched on my HDD until removed to free up space. During the install, tweaking settings and loading I'll be gleefully looking forward to playing something which is brutally unforgiving and requires you to actually think a bit to even make the slightest bit of progress. An hour or so later, I'll think "hey, this going pretty well, I got this" cue bf3 style play, BANG! Face down in in the dirt with a massive hole where my face was. I really really want to get along with mil Sims, but am far too fidgety and impatient.
dolphie 20th August 2012, 04:30 Quote
There becomes a point, if you can overcome the irritating start, where it becomes as fun and simple as BF3, but with masses more depth. It's just a bit of a challenge to reach that point :p

It's the same for the time invested question, I would say it takes quite some time to get to grips with it, and then even more time to get good at it, but once you are at that point it becomes a pick up and play game which you can just enjoy for an hour or whatever.

I should clarify something else as well, I think Arma2 itself is pretty good but that's not really what I play. There is an expansion pack called Operation Arrowhead and that is mostly what I play. The graphics are far nicer, far smoother, and I just like it far more. There are not that many games I really love these days, and Arma2 is one of the few. So excited for Arma3!
Hovis 21st August 2012, 05:22 Quote
Unless you've got multiplayer pals and a willingness to pick up rudimentary mission editing skills then the Arma series is a dead loss and a waste of time. But if you've got those things then you'll have an amazing time with the games. And it doesn't just end with being able to make little missions for a few mates. For example I joined a clan a couple of years back which has twice weekly games doing sixty player co-op missions, with custom units, learned tactics, an in game communication set up, the works.

Arma is a long way ahead of the curve, and it's pushing hard to get further ahead.

But it's not for everybody. That's no disrespect to those who won't get anything out of it, it does demand a lot from players and at launch it'll probably be about as well optimised as a panda.
Dwarfer 24th August 2012, 10:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by Tattysnuc
Thanks guys. Either way I look at it, it looks like the sort of game you have to invest a lot of time in playing it? Is that true?


It's more of a simulator than an action fps game. So you need to think about your action and be very strategic than run & gun cos in this case you'd die straight away lol
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