I loved Mafia 2 but hated Heavy Rain. You say the game is more like one long QT event (which I hate) but then Mafia 2 was also heavily scripted, however it manged to engross me.
So, in your opinion (or anyone that's played it) which side of that coin does it fall on? Mafia 2 or Heavy Rain? Its heavy rain isn't it? :(
I was looking at this game on the PS3 but never got round to it. Now I'm more unsure than ever. Maybe I will take the plunge when its a tenner.
One more thing ;p is there more clutter on the screen than the consoles? By "clutter" I mean people, vehicles...and er, clutter. Ahem. Just seems like the extra power of a PC would make that an easy thing to add which would improve the overall environments.
EDIT:Actually Mafia 2 was very action based as well and this doesn't sound that way at all. So my question was stupid.
Originally Posted by yassarikhan786 The review seems to have disappeared for me :(.
I assume its because one line said "it won't tax even a modest PC" Then in the next paragraph said even a core2 with 4gig of ram and a 5770 couldn't run it smoothly on low". Lets see if that's corrected when its back up ;) I meant to mention it above.
Originally Posted by runadumb I assume its because one line said "it won't tax even a modest PC" Then in the next paragraph said even a core2 with 4gig of ram and a 5770 couldn't run it smoothly on low". Lets see if that's corrected when its back up ;) I meant to mention it above.
Ok. I didn't get a chance to read the review yet, but I know I won't be buying it.
cranking everything to maximum and the jaggies and pixel-creep are horrific. At its lowest settings, LA Noire looks fine, although a PC with a 2.66GHz Core 2 Duo E8220, 4GB of RAM and a Radeon HD 5770 1GB struggled to play it at even the lowest settings.
Is that the wrong way round or have I missed something? It looks better at low settings?
If you can get into the police procedural flow and noir style of the game there is nothing quite like it.
Plus, calling her a nosy old hag is one of the best lines in the game :)
I want to give this game a go but I don't trust rockstar to make a game that even functions on PC these days. I wish there was a demo out to see how well it would run on my machine (e8400 3.8ghz, 4gb ram, 2x4870 1gb)
I tend to agree. Usually enjoy the bit tech reviews but this one was a bit disapointing..Never the less it has informed me that i shall not be getting this until it lurks in the steam sales for £3.75! :)
What? An adventure game? With dialogue, puzzle-solving and investigation? Where is all the first-person shooting and explosions the genre is known for?! -4/10.
I think I dodged a bullet there.... Would of been interested, but it appears nothing more than an interactive story book. Unskippable cut scenes irritate me if I wanted to watch a film I'd go to the cinema. If you need a long cut scene to tell your story you are not doing it right.
The review sums it up nicely - the ambition is admirable, and some of the graphics and game mechanics are interesting, but overall it's a fairly dull game.
I got this for Xbox 360 when it came out. I thought it was OK, but there are some major problems with it, which were mentioned in the review.
1. It's often hard to guess what the game thinks is the "correct" action or response. And when there are two equally valid options, you really can do nothing more than guess.
2. There are no consequences to your actions. It doesn't seem to matter how well you do or how badly - you always progress to the next case, and your career goes up and down regardless of your performance.
3. There's virtually no intelligence required when gathering or using clues. It doesn't ask you to think of people worth talking to or to interpret clues. It just hands it all to you on a plate. There is one high point half way through the game which requires you to solve cryptic clues left behind by a serial killer - it actually gave me a reason to engage my brain, which was good, but it made me realise how poor the rest of the investigation work was in comparison.
Another problem, but less of an issue for gameplay, is that the story leaves several loose ends and unresolved conflicts, which is frustrating for such a story heavy game.
I agree with the score. Not played it on PC yet, but it's a fairer analysis of the game I played on the PS3.
Yes, it's very different to what's around at the moment. And yes, it's great to have something more than button mashing to a game. But it's not really all that fun. I reckon Rockstar appreciated that, because there are so many gratuitous shoot-out scenes that feel more GTA than LA Noire.
If the game was about collecting evidence and building up cases I think I would enjoy it more.
In reality though, it just becomes a combination of box-ticking and guesswork. You walk around the scene button mashing until you collect every piece of evidence, much of which is just a complete lottery, since it's pretty difficult to see what's out of place, and then if you're lucky a noise comes through to tell you you're done. Otherwise you wander around until you're bored and accept you won't find the rest of the evidence.
Then you go and find a witness, perhaps unintentionally, who in my mind rarely gives an interpretable indication of whether they're lying or not, and then you're meant to challenge them about their lies. Another lottery. Oh, you didn't want to challenge that witness yet because you have absolutely no evidence to show that they're wrong? Well too bad. You have no choice. And you didn't notice that they looked left 4.5 seconds in, and thus failed to challenge their otherwise quite convincing story? Unlucky, you lose.
It's a game that needs to give you far more freedom, but freedom is obviously hard to code and hard to give players a good chance of success. What you've got instead is an awkward combination of freedom to explore and narrow scope for investigation, that in my eyes is little better than the CSI games that have been pumped out over the last few years.
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ReplySo, in your opinion (or anyone that's played it) which side of that coin does it fall on? Mafia 2 or Heavy Rain? Its heavy rain isn't it? :(
I was looking at this game on the PS3 but never got round to it. Now I'm more unsure than ever. Maybe I will take the plunge when its a tenner.
One more thing ;p is there more clutter on the screen than the consoles? By "clutter" I mean people, vehicles...and er, clutter. Ahem. Just seems like the extra power of a PC would make that an easy thing to add which would improve the overall environments.
EDIT:Actually Mafia 2 was very action based as well and this doesn't sound that way at all. So my question was stupid.
I assume its because one line said "it won't tax even a modest PC" Then in the next paragraph said even a core2 with 4gig of ram and a 5770 couldn't run it smoothly on low". Lets see if that's corrected when its back up ;) I meant to mention it above.
Ok. I didn't get a chance to read the review yet, but I know I won't be buying it.
Is that the wrong way round or have I missed something? It looks better at low settings?
...We also corrected that error.
Clarified that sentence.
If you can get into the police procedural flow and noir style of the game there is nothing quite like it.
Plus, calling her a nosy old hag is one of the best lines in the game :)
I tend to agree. Usually enjoy the bit tech reviews but this one was a bit disapointing..Never the less it has informed me that i shall not be getting this until it lurks in the steam sales for £3.75! :)
And yeah, I'm not buying this. It set back game development in this country by god knows how many years.
1. It's often hard to guess what the game thinks is the "correct" action or response. And when there are two equally valid options, you really can do nothing more than guess.
2. There are no consequences to your actions. It doesn't seem to matter how well you do or how badly - you always progress to the next case, and your career goes up and down regardless of your performance.
3. There's virtually no intelligence required when gathering or using clues. It doesn't ask you to think of people worth talking to or to interpret clues. It just hands it all to you on a plate. There is one high point half way through the game which requires you to solve cryptic clues left behind by a serial killer - it actually gave me a reason to engage my brain, which was good, but it made me realise how poor the rest of the investigation work was in comparison.
Another problem, but less of an issue for gameplay, is that the story leaves several loose ends and unresolved conflicts, which is frustrating for such a story heavy game.
I think the 60% review score here is about right.
:)
Yes, it's very different to what's around at the moment. And yes, it's great to have something more than button mashing to a game. But it's not really all that fun. I reckon Rockstar appreciated that, because there are so many gratuitous shoot-out scenes that feel more GTA than LA Noire.
If the game was about collecting evidence and building up cases I think I would enjoy it more.
In reality though, it just becomes a combination of box-ticking and guesswork. You walk around the scene button mashing until you collect every piece of evidence, much of which is just a complete lottery, since it's pretty difficult to see what's out of place, and then if you're lucky a noise comes through to tell you you're done. Otherwise you wander around until you're bored and accept you won't find the rest of the evidence.
Then you go and find a witness, perhaps unintentionally, who in my mind rarely gives an interpretable indication of whether they're lying or not, and then you're meant to challenge them about their lies. Another lottery. Oh, you didn't want to challenge that witness yet because you have absolutely no evidence to show that they're wrong? Well too bad. You have no choice. And you didn't notice that they looked left 4.5 seconds in, and thus failed to challenge their otherwise quite convincing story? Unlucky, you lose.
It's a game that needs to give you far more freedom, but freedom is obviously hard to code and hard to give players a good chance of success. What you've got instead is an awkward combination of freedom to explore and narrow scope for investigation, that in my eyes is little better than the CSI games that have been pumped out over the last few years.
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