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Crysis 2 DirectX 11 Patch Analysis

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mucgoo 8th July 2011, 11:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by Cei
Hm, that's some hefty requirements. My SSD is tiny, so I doubt I could install the game on it, I don't meet the 8GB of RAM recommendation and my GTX 560Ti is probably too puny. Boo! The only thing I'm good for is the CPU...

I think cyrtek are hyping it so people buy the game more as a benchmarking/system test tool than anything else. It not near as demanding comparative to the original crysis was for the time.
Cei 8th July 2011, 11:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by mucgoo
I think cyrtek are hyping it so people buy the game more as a benchmarking/system test tool than anything else. It not near as demanding comparative to the original crysis was for the time.

That's true, the original killed systems for a long time after release until the hardware finally caught up. I'd love to upgrade my system, but it was only built in February this year, and I really can't justify the outlay on another new GPU and pricey large SSD.
xela333 8th July 2011, 11:44 Quote
Just started reinstalling this on my SSD. Need to give my new GTX 570 a good workout and this patch seems best to do it.
feathers 8th July 2011, 11:44 Quote
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Originally Posted by DaBigDog
Yes the screen shots look amazing, but realistically what % of gamer's can play it at their monitors native resolution with all the bells and whistles turned on (a very small % methinks, the steam hardware survey might help here).
Why are people getting so excited about graphics they are NEVER going to see in game, it's quite ironic that there are a large number of screen shots in this article as for most people their frame rate will be like a slide show if they try and see that level of detail.
Don't get me wrong I applaud technical innovation and have been gaming since the Atari VCS so can appreciate the development of in game graphics, but I spend @£300 on a graphics card every 18 months and I still couldn't play this game as it should be seen, even when my card is new!
Maybe there should be a new rule, you judge how a game looks only at a playable frame rate on on standard test system (as well as your usual "balls out" super system), not how it could potentially look in 2-3 years time when the hardware is able to the appreciate the games potential.

A friend of mine is running the game on full settings on his GTX 460, Q6600 @ 3.4ghz. 4gb DDR2 memory. He said the game runs well at 1080 on his BenQ 3d monitor. So I don't know what spec machines some of you have but I guess they must be pretty poor.

Probably not a good idea to run AA on low spec hardware.
Anneon 8th July 2011, 11:48 Quote
I personally held off buying this till the price came down due to the unfavourable reactions i've read. I recently purchased it at a knockdown price of £15 at a local store. Although not as cheap as I intended to purchase it the DX11 and enchancements that were released swayed me to pick it up.
What can I say. Looks amazing, very difficult to play (is it just me or are the enemies hard to distiguish against the backdrops?). Put it down after 2 or 3 hours and uninstalled.
Over 2 GB of a patch and still not a patch on the original.
feathers 8th July 2011, 11:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by Anneon
I personally held off buying this till the price came down due to the unfavourable reactions i've read. I recently purchased it at a knockdown price of £15 at a local store. Although not as cheap as I intended to purchase it the DX11 and enchancements that were released swayed me to pick it up.
What can I say. Looks amazing, very difficult to play (is it just me or are the enemies hard to distiguish against the backdrops?). Put it down after 2 or 3 hours and uninstalled.
Over 2 GB of a patch and still not a patch on the original.

It's just you. Perhaps you have a badly calibrated monitor? I have no probs seeing enemy. Graphics are clear and detailed. Unreasonable complaint dismissed.
DbD 8th July 2011, 11:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by xaser04
Ignoring [H]'s actually "review" for a second I was genuinely shocked by how unprofessional Kyle Bennet acts on the forums. His responses read like some 12 year old who has just found swear words in the dictionary.

He's got a bit of a little dictator thing going on there these days - he preaches, you agree/keep quiet or you leave/get banned.
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Originally Posted by DaBigDog
Yes the screen shots look amazing, but realistically what % of gamer's can play it at their monitors native resolution with all the bells and whistles turned on (a very small % methinks, the steam hardware survey might help here).
Why are people getting so excited about graphics they are NEVER going to see in game, it's quite ironic that there are a large number of screen shots in this article as for most people their frame rate will be like a slide show if they try and see that level of detail.
Don't get me wrong I applaud technical innovation and have been gaming since the Atari VCS so can appreciate the development of in game graphics, but I spend @£300 on a graphics card every 18 months and I still couldn't play this game as it should be seen, even when my card is new!
Maybe there should be a new rule, you judge how a game looks only at a playable frame rate on on standard test system (as well as your usual "balls out" super system), not how it could potentially look in 2-3 years time when the hardware is able to the appreciate the games potential.

I would say crysis 2's requirements with the DX11 patch are pretty similar to crysis 1's. I have an o/c GTX 570 and it's the first card I've owned capable of playing crysis 1 at max settings at 1920*1080, and in crysis 2 @ ultra I get an average fps in the 40's so it's about right for that as well.

Considering when crysis 1 came out the top card was the 8800 GTX I think if they'd done the same for crysis 2 the GTX 580 would be getting about 5 fps.
salesman 8th July 2011, 12:04 Quote
I like the screenshot showing shadow detail on ultra is completely missing the top of the light pole. I guess the shadows do get softer the further distance away there are.
StoneyMahoney 8th July 2011, 12:28 Quote
On Page 5, the tesselation on/off comparison, look at the corner brick textures on the left-hand side of the window - they don't line up around the corner.
true_gamer 8th July 2011, 12:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by TAG
Could we have multi gpu performance scaling numbers?
Is anything capable to run this in ultra on 3 monitors?

My setup runs crysis 2 maxed out at 6030x1080, min 30, max 60 (vsync on), avg 45fps. That is with a 4.4ghz OC on 990x and stock clocks on my 580's.

Cheers,

Simon.
Action_Parsnip 8th July 2011, 12:34 Quote
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Originally Posted by feathers
The "core gameplay" in Cryis 2 is excellent. I was one of the complainers prior to 1.9 patch because the game didn't run SLI on my 2 x liquid cooled 560Ti's. With 1.9 it runs perfectly and looks great. It's the best looking game available for PC. Gameplay is interesting and the cut scenes very cinematic. I've only tried multiplayer briefly but I like it so far.

Those children who say this is no longer Crysis because Crytek dared to change to a city environment? Absolute bollocks. The core gameplay remains unchanged. Crysis 2 is one of the best games I've played this year.

The character detail and animation is so good that the characters convey some level of emotion. Interesting that we're reaching a point in games now where 3d characters can do this.

I feel sorry for Crytek actually. They worked hard to produce a very good game. Made some mistakes with the PC version but certainly have made up for it now. Doesn't seem to matter what they do, kiddies will criticise and say the game is crap.

Remember how they reacted to the first Crysis? "Crysis is ****, it doesn't run maximum detail on my 8800gt, it's badly coded!"

Crysis 2 PC is the best game I've played this year.

You should see the hardocp.com review of the patch. If there is ever such a thing as a flame-explosion it has occured there :P
TAG 8th July 2011, 12:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by true_gamer
My setup runs crysis 2 maxed out at 6030x1080, min 30, max 60 (vsync on), avg 45fps. That is with a 4.4ghz OC on 990x and stock clocks on my 580's.

Cheers,

Simon.

Thanks for your numbers.
I wonder if my 6950s' 2GB vram would grant better numbers.
AMD's still polishing their drivers though ...
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Originally Posted by @CatalystCreator: Andrew D on july 6th

We're looking at Crysis 2 in general to see what optimizations can be enabled to improve perf. But this will take some time

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Originally Posted by @CatalystCreator: Andrew D on july 6th

For Crysis 2 DX11 CF performance - we actually have pretty good scaling, so no new CAP is needed
feathers 8th July 2011, 12:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by Action_Parsnip
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Originally Posted by feathers
The "core gameplay" in Cryis 2 is excellent. I was one of the complainers prior to 1.9 patch because the game didn't run SLI on my 2 x liquid cooled 560Ti's. With 1.9 it runs perfectly and looks great. It's the best looking game available for PC. Gameplay is interesting and the cut scenes very cinematic. I've only tried multiplayer briefly but I like it so far.

Those children who say this is no longer Crysis because Crytek dared to change to a city environment? Absolute bollocks. The core gameplay remains unchanged. Crysis 2 is one of the best games I've played this year.

The character detail and animation is so good that the characters convey some level of emotion. Interesting that we're reaching a point in games now where 3d characters can do this.

I feel sorry for Crytek actually. They worked hard to produce a very good game. Made some mistakes with the PC version but certainly have made up for it now. Doesn't seem to matter what they do, kiddies will criticise and say the game is crap.

Remember how they reacted to the first Crysis? "Crysis is ****, it doesn't run maximum detail on my 8800gt, it's badly coded!"

Crysis 2 PC is the best game I've played this year.

You should see the hardocp.com review of the patch. If there is ever such a thing as a flame-explosion it has occured there :P

Oh yes, I see. HardOCP had problems installing it to start with. I have the EA DVD version. Didn't have any problems installing it on either of my win 7's and no crashing so far (probably nearing the end of the single player campaign now). I agree that the patch should have been part of the game from day 1 and what kind of dumbass decides to release PC demo version with auto aim enabled? It's a shame consoles have come to dominate the gaming industry. It doesn't seem very long ago that the PS3 had been released and already it's looking rather old and outclassed by latest PC hardware. Consoles suck and they suck the PC gaming industry and result in a much lower standard of game.

For me the PC version of Crysis 2 is a lot of fun and great to look at so I don't care really. Already half way through 2011 and I can't think of many memorable pc games this year. Portal 2 was fun but perhaps even that was negatively impacted by release on console too. Dumbass console gamers with their 3rd person thumb pad games.
Action_Parsnip 8th July 2011, 12:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by Parge
I think we all owe Crytek a big 'thank you very much' for spending time after the game was released to develop and deploy this patch. Maybe the game should have been initially released with the patch already installed, but fair play to them for still caring about us PC gamers.

Thanks!

Pfffffffffffffffffffff! Could they have given us a more middle of the road dumbed down cliche ridden guff bag?
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Originally Posted by DbD
Kudos to bit-tech to not only managing to install the patch but actually review it too without going off in some sort of childish hissy fit unlike some other not so [H] sites out there.

Screenshot comparison = almost no difference. Their point vindicated.
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Originally Posted by xaser04
Ignoring [H]'s actually "review" for a second I was genuinely shocked by how unprofessional Kyle Bennet acts on the forums. His responses read like some 12 year old who has just found swear words in the dictionary.

Spend any time hanging around hardocp, you'll find out it's a kookey outfit. The editors say what they think. Reckon his conduct is soo childish? They lost a bunch of Nvidia advertising money from this, to state their opinions. They did not let a bag of money stop them saying what they believe in. Huge kudos for that, and for their integrity. They tell you exactly what they think 100% of the time.
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Originally Posted by Gunsmith
Crysis 2 is not as good as Crysis 1

I have spoken, we're done here.

/thread

+This
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Originally Posted by DaBigDog
Yes the screen shots look amazing, but realistically what % of gamer's can play it at their monitors native resolution with all the bells and whistles turned on (a very small % methinks, the steam hardware survey might help here).
Why are people getting so excited about graphics they are NEVER going to see in game, it's quite ironic that there are a large number of screen shots in this article as for most people their frame rate will be like a slide show if they try and see that level of detail.
Don't get me wrong I applaud technical innovation and have been gaming since the Atari VCS so can appreciate the development of in game graphics, but I spend @£300 on a graphics card every 18 months and I still couldn't play this game as it should be seen, even when my card is new!
Maybe there should be a new rule, you judge how a game looks only at a playable frame rate on on standard test system (as well as your usual "balls out" super system), not how it could potentially look in 2-3 years time when the hardware is able to the appreciate the games potential.

Then you don't get being a PC enthusiast. You post on hardware or software threads, that makes you an enthusiast.
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Originally Posted by DbD
He's got a bit of a little dictator thing going on there these days - he preaches, you agree/keep quiet or you leave/get banned.

That's such BS. You get banned by either _spamming_ threads with incessant droning on and on shouting people down, or through insulting other posters.
DbD 8th July 2011, 13:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by Action_Parsnip

That's such BS. You get banned by either _spamming_ threads with incessant droning on and on shouting people down, or through insulting other posters.

Just read some replies Kyle makes in that thread - the guy is not fair, unbiased or rational in his response to Crytek - he even admits it somewhere announcing that he's carries grudges, and he's not a journalist or a games reviewer - yet you think he magically treats forum members better? Well as long as you keep parroting the [H] line, and keep quiet if you disagree I'm sure you'll be fine :)
Action_Parsnip 8th July 2011, 13:54 Quote
^^ parroting the [H] line? Nice.

I read the comment thread in full over at [H]. I also contributed. Bleating whinging and moaning about the site or articles get you noticed in the bad way. Banging on and on and on and on gets you noticed in the bad way. 20 posts in the same thread gets you noticed in the bad way.

Kyle didn't like something? fine. Accept it.

Say you liked what he didn't like? fine. "Im glad you got your money's worth" is what he would and did say, many times.

Tell him and the staff they are full of sh1t? There is your ban.

It's a simple system.

"He carries grudges" Boo flaming hoo. Who doesn't on these boards? To paraphrase "Crytek promised us caviar and gave us beans in a caviar tin". Thankyou Gunsmith.

"he's not a journalist or a games reviewer - yet you think he magically treats forum members better?" What does that mean exactly? What do journalists and games reviewers do to treat forum members better?

Oh, and please, citing sources, show me where he was not fair to someone on that comment thread would you please? Remembering that the rules are clear and only one warning will be given.
fingerbob69 8th July 2011, 14:00 Quote
"according to nVidia" this article was sponsored and brought to you by nVidia!


Was AMD asked what they thought, you know, in the interests of balance?
LeMaltor 8th July 2011, 14:01 Quote
The energy bar thing bottom right of the pictures look horrible, never noticed that before, then I wouldn't as I haven't bought C2 :D
feathers 8th July 2011, 14:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by LeMaltor
The energy bar thing bottom right of the pictures look horrible, never noticed that before, then I wouldn't as I haven't bought C2 :D

Wow! Only just noticed that! Can't believe the major review sites missed that one! FUGLY energy bar bottom right! Until then I thought the game was very good. Now I'm thinking I will uninstall it and sell it on ebay. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. What the **** were crytek thinking!
Action_Parsnip 8th July 2011, 14:05 Quote
fNice try feathers, but See-2 is still P-Poo.
feathers 8th July 2011, 14:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by Action_Parsnip
fNice try feathers, but See-2 is still P-Poo.

Not on my PC it's not. I conducted a little experiment recently, played a PC game the same way most muppets do (turned off body vibration). The game felt flat and lifeless and I lost that feeling of being immersed. I think the crap setups are a big part of the problem.

The game is a lot of fun when you feel the kick of bullets and the shockwave of an explosion.

I suggest you uninstall Duke Nukem Forever, buy Crysis 2 and buy or build yourself a body vibration system.
thil 8th July 2011, 14:37 Quote
Still using FMOD?

Oh? It is?

*yaaaaaaaaaawn*
Action_Parsnip 8th July 2011, 14:44 Quote
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Originally Posted by feathers
I suggest you uninstall Battlefield 2, buy Crysis 2 and buy or build yourself a body vibration system.


NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feathers 8th July 2011, 14:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by Action_Parsnip
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Originally Posted by feathers
I suggest you uninstall Battlefield 2, buy Crysis 2 and buy or build yourself a body vibration system.


NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BF2 eh? I bought it, tried to like it for several years and then just accepted my hatred of it. Flying a fast jet over a postage stamp sized map. One of my friends still plays it. He's ranked pretty high for his pilot skills (RS White).
LeMaltor 8th July 2011, 14:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by feathers
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Originally Posted by LeMaltor
The energy bar thing bottom right of the pictures look horrible, never noticed that before, then I wouldn't as I haven't bought C2 :D

Wow! Only just noticed that! Can't believe the major review sites missed that one! FUGLY energy bar bottom right! Until then I thought the game was very good. Now I'm thinking I will uninstall it and sell it on ebay. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. What the **** were crytek thinking!

100% agree.
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