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The PC Gaming Alliance Interview

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sotu1 20th January 2011, 17:29 Quote
What has the PCGA ever given us? Nothing tangible.

A bunch of stats in 3 years isn't enough, I'm sorry.
Kenny79 20th January 2011, 17:31 Quote
Reading that was a waste of my time! Well what have they done?
Jedibeeftrix 20th January 2011, 18:10 Quote
"Given the trend of retail's diminishing presence, free-to-play, games moving towards authentication, game streaming and so on, it’s really hard to divine where DRM solutions fit into this equation in the future."

Sounds like a coded way of saying they support restrictive DRM procedures, because digital distribution is........... difficult.

PC games, with the exceptions of subscription MMO's, are not considered to be a service, they are a product regardless of what what EULA says.

I would hope that the PCGA takes a long hard look at the Witcher 2 experiment and realises that it could in fact have a negative impact on the industry it claims to represent.
logonui 20th January 2011, 18:14 Quote
I'm still a bit confused about what they have actually done / plan to do... He appeared to say a hell of a lot without actually saying anything :S
nukeman8 20th January 2011, 18:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by logonui
I'm still a bit confused about what they have actually done / plan to do... He appeared to say a hell of a lot without actually saying anything :S

That's what i got from the article to, when asked what they have actually achieved they just spout out some more nonsense.
Darkefire 20th January 2011, 18:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by logonui
I'm still a bit confused about what they have actually done / plan to do... He appeared to say a hell of a lot without actually saying anything :S

That's about par for the course in these kinds of interviews. If they actually said something useful or profound, we might actually hold them accountable to their statements. Politicians and PR departments are masters of being able to speak for hours without actually saying anything.
Omnituens 20th January 2011, 18:58 Quote
I'm still insulted that Epic is still among that list of companies.
billysielu 20th January 2011, 19:41 Quote
So they've done nothing.. waste of time.
leveller 20th January 2011, 19:44 Quote
I've certainly been critical about the PCGA in the past but I'm willing to reserve judgement and see what they can achieve now Intel is holding the torch. I think Matt has taken the helm at a great time for PC. Nothing comes close to what we can do with our kit and we can thank his company for a lot of that!
Redsnake77 20th January 2011, 19:49 Quote
I totally agree with all the comments above. What I'd like to know is could Bit Tech see any benefit to joining the PCGA? Would $35k be too much of an investment to be on the inside, actually participating in and guiding the future of the industry? Or do Bit Tech see it as just an industry PR quango that has no real substantive value?
warejon9 20th January 2011, 19:53 Quote
Well, what they have done is basically do a bit of stats, and calculated that the pc market is not going to be able to compete with "consoles" purely as consoles are actually 3 different systems. Hopefully though they'll try and get more developers actually developing PC games, not console ports.
thehippoz 20th January 2011, 20:03 Quote
so they sit around a table and goof off.. sounds like government
Niftyrat 20th January 2011, 20:54 Quote
All I have to say is if you don't understand the system requirements either you are not supposed to play the game or you are an older person buying for a child -ask the child my nine yr old niece knows her laptop specs her mom and dad have no clue.
frontline 20th January 2011, 21:03 Quote
Get Steve Jobs on board - they could rename it the iPCGA, paint it white and add an Apple logo - everyone will buy into it then.
Ninja_182 20th January 2011, 21:24 Quote
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Get Steve Jobs on board - they could rename it the iPCGA, paint it white and add an Apple logo - everyone will buy into it then.

You say that but Apple software generally doesnt have the epic list of hardware requirements on the box. They are doing something along the right lines.
Krayzie_B.o.n.e. 20th January 2011, 21:32 Quote
You guys can feel free to give me 30K and join my PC Gaming Tree House Club. We don't do much but your logo can get etched into my tree.

All jokes aside I read this article and have yet to understand fully what the benefit of this PCGA is. What have they done.
The Infamous Mr D 20th January 2011, 22:01 Quote
Wait a minute... was the ex president's name Randy Stude...? Is that with a silent 'e'?
Twigsby 20th January 2011, 22:13 Quote
batmanasb 21st January 2011, 03:13 Quote
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Originally Posted by Omnituens
I'm still insulted that Epic is still among that list of companies.

lol, Epic games... the company that stopped making PC games since UT3. The only goood they've done is UE3
knuck 21st January 2011, 05:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by nukeman8
That's what i got from the article to, when asked what they have actually achieved they just spout out some more nonsense.
I expected comments like these after I read the article.... because that's also how I felt.
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Originally Posted by Omnituens
I'm still insulted that Epic is still among that list of companies.

I feel the same
BrightCandle 21st January 2011, 06:52 Quote
With Microsoft on a big push for PC gaming (no really they are) and PCGA at the helm promoting the platform what could possibly go wrong?
mpr 21st January 2011, 09:09 Quote
It would be cool if you purchased a console game, stuck the disc in your Pc and paid a 5er or so and got access to the full downloadable PC version via Steam or something.

Also System requirements should go off a grading system... maybe some sort of letter or code for processors and GPUs for minimums yet still have the full boar for reccomended.
Mentai 21st January 2011, 13:04 Quote
@mpr Portal 2 on PS3 unlocks the PC/Mac version in your steam account for free. That's a first step in a direction I didn't think would ever occur. The pessimist in me just thinks that that is just Valve getting more people onto their platform, but I don't mind, steam is my primary platform anyway.

On topic, agree with the rest of the posts. I hope the PCGA eventually does something useful but right now I just see them as all talk. Hopefully with the more transparency this new president is promising they won't seem as useless. Also, screw Epic games.
uz1_l0v3r 21st January 2011, 13:13 Quote
Valve, one of the few developers that has stood by PC gaming, are conspicuous by their absence.
uz1_l0v3r 21st January 2011, 13:14 Quote
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Originally Posted by Omnituens
I'm still insulted that Epic is still among that list of companies.

Agreed.
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