As to the game, its interesting but FO3 never gripped me as much as oblivion did (as in not at all compared with god knows how many hours, probably hundreds). Not really sure what the reason was, perhaps the "stripped down" combat mechanics making it tedious (IMO at least, only guns - realistically - got boring quickly), perhaps I just found a post apocalyptic world boring. Think I'll be giving it a miss though as I can't imagine it can be that radically different (and the review confirms that).
What about bugs? Another website was reporting about crashes, glitches when enemies die, NPC's running away as if you were hostile but talking to you as normal and one or two other things. They also said that while the Hardcore mode sounds good, after 48 hours (game-time) they'd only accrued 50/1000 points for the food and drink requirement thing.
Originally Posted by TWeaK What about bugs? Another website was reporting about crashes, glitches when enemies die, NPC's running away as if you were hostile but talking to you as normal and one or two other things. They also said that while the Hardcore mode sounds good, after 48 hours (game-time) they'd only accrued 50/1000 points for the food and drink requirement thing.
I personally didn't find it all that buggy - a few cases of stuck objects and missing textures on some rocks, but nothing big. Certainly no CTDs for me personally.
The big plus point about the choice to dig the same rancid old engine out of mothballs is that the modding community shouldn't have trouble getting to work on it and fixing everything. This was apparent with Fallout 3, where the experience of modding Oblivion translated into better mods released sooner. While the core problems of the engine remain it's a safe bet that pretty soon down the line there'll be masses more content and enough balance tweaks around to tailor the experience to fit the individual player. Win. :)
Hardcore sounds Awesome! I already wanted this game since I found Fallout 3 so enjoyable but some of the new features do seem like a bit of an improvement. Hopefully It wont be as buggy as FO3 tho. I remember have huge problems getting it installed or problems with animations andd damage calculation in VATS
I was completely disinterested in New Vegas until I saw the mention of Hardcore mode. That's something I felt was sorely lacking in FO3 and which wasn't really implemented very well in mods back when I tried it.
I had dismissed New Vegas as overpriced DLC, but I might give it a chance after a couple of months when most of the crippling bugs and flaws we can expect from Obsidian have been ironed out with patches or mods and when it shows up in a Steam special offer.
They're certainly not getting €50 from me for what appears to be essentially an expansion pack made by the company that specialises in poor RPG expansions/sequels. I've been stung by Obsidian before.
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I'd still prefer a new isometric, PC-centric Fallout game instead of these Oblivion TCs, though.
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Originally Posted by TWeaK I saw two monks doing head-stands and a foot-five
You, sir, have blown my mind!
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Originally Posted by CardJoe I personally didn't find it all that buggy - a few cases of stuck objects and missing textures on some rocks, but nothing big. Certainly no CTDs for me personally.
I'm hoping this is true for me as well. Fallout 3 was fun to play but Jaysus did it crash often.
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Originally Posted by knuck I'm not one of those people who judge a game by its graphics but..... Holy crap is that game ugly
as always, it's fallout, so I can't wait.... hopefully a hi-res texture pack will be released relatively soon.
I'm just hoping I won't get sound-file related crashes... I had about a 1 in 20 chance of crashing fallout 3 whenever I brought up the pip-boy or used VATS, I'll see tonight I guess :D
It hasn't aged well and that's New Vegas' biggest problem; that many of the complaints that have been levelled at both Fallout 3 and Oblivion – such as the console-centric interface – are still in place.
Don't worry, just wait for the many mods and HD texture packs to start appearing. :)
Oblivion with HD texture mods, Darnified UI and 8AA 16AF still looks amazing.
RE the graphics and other niggles, mods should take care of most of that quite quickly
though a mini rant on the graphics side:
Is it really too hard for them to create high res textures when making the game and downsample them for the consoles, rather than 'everyone gets horrible low-res textures and we'll rely on modders to remake them for the PC'?
I tried to give Fallout 3 a real chance, I picked up a steam copy of the GOYE that had all the DLC packs before Vegas and it was just such a slow game filled with bugs, wonky AI and clunky mouse and keyboard controls. I could see how this sorta setting and style of gameplay can suck people in for hours on end but if I had a choice id rather play through any of the 3 STALKER games or even Oblivion before I returned to the Fallout series. Maybe if a Fallout 4 can fix some of these issues and make a more PC minded type of game in regards to the graphics, controls and overall quality of more recent games I'd pick up a copy.
Originally Posted by cyrilthefish Looking forward to it :)
RE the graphics and other niggles, mods should take care of most of that quite quickly
though a mini rant on the graphics side:
Is it really too hard for them to create high res textures when making the game and downsample them for the consoles, rather than 'everyone gets horrible low-res textures and we'll rely on modders to remake them for the PC'?
Why would they want to spend more money to add extra stuff in for 1 platform? Clearly they built this with as broad a spectrum as possible in mind, and the PC version is just added in there for extra revenue and to appease fans. At least they did a seemingly decent job at not making the PC version suffer from horrible performance problems and glitches.
I had to play fallout 3 in windowed mode or it would crash all the time. Also there was a major lag when you bring up VATS.. like a second or so before it would come up. If the game's engine hasn't been noticeably improved, count me out.
Also I get that it's a post-apocalyptic wasteland, but the games could really use some color here and there.
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ReplyAlthough frankly, it could have got a 0/10, and I would have still bought it. <3 Fallout.
I saw two monks doing head-stands and a foot-five
OMG, once seen...
As to the game, its interesting but FO3 never gripped me as much as oblivion did (as in not at all compared with god knows how many hours, probably hundreds). Not really sure what the reason was, perhaps the "stripped down" combat mechanics making it tedious (IMO at least, only guns - realistically - got boring quickly), perhaps I just found a post apocalyptic world boring. Think I'll be giving it a miss though as I can't imagine it can be that radically different (and the review confirms that).
Grizzly bears high-fiving in front of a mushroom cloud.
Which means...IT WAS THE BEARS ALL ALONG!
I will know friday.
I personally didn't find it all that buggy - a few cases of stuck objects and missing textures on some rocks, but nothing big. Certainly no CTDs for me personally.
Thats one of the things I liked with Fallout 3 it got bigger and bigger.
Yup, it's been announced they will be a 360 exclusive as of first.
ewwww
I had dismissed New Vegas as overpriced DLC, but I might give it a chance after a couple of months when most of the crippling bugs and flaws we can expect from Obsidian have been ironed out with patches or mods and when it shows up in a Steam special offer.
They're certainly not getting €50 from me for what appears to be essentially an expansion pack made by the company that specialises in poor RPG expansions/sequels. I've been stung by Obsidian before.
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I'd still prefer a new isometric, PC-centric Fallout game instead of these Oblivion TCs, though.
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Look forward to playing it.
I'm just hoping I won't get sound-file related crashes... I had about a 1 in 20 chance of crashing fallout 3 whenever I brought up the pip-boy or used VATS, I'll see tonight I guess :D
Totally agree :D
Really looking forward to it still.
I hope aswell. The difference that the high-res pack can make in fallout 3 is amazing; just look at the screenshots
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=774
I know, that's why I want an updated one (I'm assuming that the old one won't work very reliably with new textures in NV)
Don't worry, just wait for the many mods and HD texture packs to start appearing. :)
Oblivion with HD texture mods, Darnified UI and 8AA 16AF still looks amazing.
RE the graphics and other niggles, mods should take care of most of that quite quickly
though a mini rant on the graphics side:
Is it really too hard for them to create high res textures when making the game and downsample them for the consoles, rather than 'everyone gets horrible low-res textures and we'll rely on modders to remake them for the PC'?
Why would they want to spend more money to add extra stuff in for 1 platform? Clearly they built this with as broad a spectrum as possible in mind, and the PC version is just added in there for extra revenue and to appease fans. At least they did a seemingly decent job at not making the PC version suffer from horrible performance problems and glitches.
Also I get that it's a post-apocalyptic wasteland, but the games could really use some color here and there.
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