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Medal of Honor Review

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CardJoe 12th October 2010, 17:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by lacuna

Yep and yet it still gets a 6. Im going to have to assume that the scale actually only goes from 6 to 10 because nothing ever gets less than 6. I suppose publishers would stop sending games if reviewers marked them down too much though /cynicism

Bollocks to that. I gave a 4/10 just the other week. I've given 2/10s before. Problem is, because nobody cares about obviously rubbish games and because everyone can spot them a mile off, there's no reason for us to look at them. Would you really like us to review the utter dregs of the industry on a regular basis, bearing in mind you'd probably never buy it anyway? Wouldn't you rather we honestly assessed the games our readers might actually care about?

I gave Medal of Honor a 5/10 - ranked as 'has significant drawbacks', 'just meets expectations' and 'approach with caution' in the score guide - for the singleplayer, then threw another point on the pile for the multiplayer, because it's better than the SP.

I make a big effort to use the whole 1-10 scale and mark as fairly as possible. We're not bound up in PR crap and aren't pressured to give any game a particular score. If we were, we'd tell everyone about it.

Some of the 6 or lower reviews we've given this year, off the top of my head:
Sniper: Ghost Warrior
Crackdown 2
Blade Kitten
Silent Hunter 5
Alien Breed: Impact
Alpha Protocol
Global Agenda
Winter Voices: Avalance
Lost Planet 2
Necrovision: The Lost Company
Ship Simulator Extremes
Star Wolves 3: Civil War

TL,DR? Go play a real 3/10 or 2/10 game, then play Medal of Honor and tell me it's as bad as they are. It's bad, but it's not that bad.

/rant
kornedbeefy 12th October 2010, 17:44 Quote
I've been pretty tired of modern combat type FPS for quite a while now. It's what we've been seeing since BF2 released in 2005. Is that all devs can create anymore? It's past time for new FPS subject matter devs.

I also agree with javamans comment...

"I really hate FPS games atm. I full believe a game should stand up on merit of single player alone yet every FPS game of recent is an "online mulitplayer experience" with single player bolted on."

.... and adding not only is single player bolted on but PC FPS multiplayer is broken due to no "personal" dedicated servers and removal of LAN play.
bogie170 12th October 2010, 17:47 Quote
This release does not bode well for Battlefield 3 either. I guess it will also run on the same "shitty/buggy/console" Frostbite engine.

Can anyone confirm if joysticks work on MOH?

They dont on BFBC2.
Bakes 12th October 2010, 17:50 Quote
That's really interesting - I really liked the beta of MoH. Whilst it's not perfect, it seems to me like a much more balanced version of CoD - it's quite fun really in my opinion - each to his own, I guess - but deriding it as being more of the same seems somewhat silly when it actually does it pretty well (in my opinion anyway).

Just because a game is simple doesn't mean it's bad. Also, AAA games have always been samey - you need to look to indie games for variety (not kidding, just look at the top iPhone games. Doodlejump, Tap Tap, Cut the Rope, Plants vs Zombies - these are all original games that have b een well received).
bogie170 12th October 2010, 17:52 Quote
If you don't buy MOH then buy minecraft instead! Sooooooooo addictive!!!
enciem 12th October 2010, 17:54 Quote
I pre-ordered this. I reckon I'll still get some play out it as I rarely play the single player portion of games. I wish I'd pre-ordered from a shop though now, at least then I would have a got a coaster to show for me money if it really is that bad.

I'm a positive person though, I'm thinking a good server with admins could easily help with campers, or the devs could just stick a few strategically placed piles of crates in. The beta seemed alright to me, not great, but worth a punt
Gunsmith 12th October 2010, 18:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
Aside from the occasional flare of swiftly ignored brilliance, we've been stuck since the mid-90s.

incorrect, we've been stuck since 2003
Necrow 12th October 2010, 18:24 Quote
On the plus side, you will get access to Battlefield 3 beta, other than that its a linear single player and a reskin of BFBC2 multiplayer.
Gunsmith 12th October 2010, 18:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by Necrow
On the plus side, you will get access to Battlefield 3 beta, other than that its a linear single player and a reskin of BFBC2 multiplayer.

oh god that thats another thing that can **** off! BUY OUR GAME TO GET BETA ACCESS!

gahhhh stop falling for this **** and it will go away!
Phalanx 12th October 2010, 18:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by Gunsmith
oh god that thats another thing that can **** off! BUY OUR GAME TO GET BETA ACCESS!

gahhhh stop falling for this **** and it will go away!

Completely agree. It's not a "plus" to buy a game. Like leading sheep to slaughter, it really is.

"Well, I don't think we're going to hit our review marks on this guys. How do we bump sales?"

"Erm, BF3 beta access?"

"Brilliant! Do it, and have a bonus for the suggestion!"
Centy-face 12th October 2010, 18:38 Quote
From a totally multiplayer standpoint I bought this today I played the open beta and loved it which was odd as before I had total faith it would be bloody atrocious. I bought and put about 60 hours or so into BC2 and after realising i spent 99% of my time as a sniper i tried assault... that lasted mere minutes I found it almost impossible to play and hit people it just felt floaty and awful. So I was expecting MoH to be similar but it's accurate fun and engaging.

Obviously it was going to be similar to BC2 but something in the beta just clicked with me well enough to seperate me from my cash anyway it may not be the be all and end all of shooters but no one could have honestly thought it would be and I'll settle for a multiplayer experience which is this frantic and yet fun to play. Maybe it will turn out to be utter crap and within a few days will be sniping little dirty campers all over the shop but I'm confident I will get my £30s worth out of the multiplayer and then get Black ops in a month and the same there.

As for access to the BF3 beta the level of my caring about this is about the same as my ability to care about pop idols and such no yeah nothing at all I hate that it's become a selling point of games these days hell even access to demos is turning that way (looks at Gearbox and Blizzard) but it was in no way something that I bought the game for.
Senilex 12th October 2010, 19:17 Quote
I have to say, I enjoyed this review.
south side sammy 12th October 2010, 19:20 Quote
WOW, great reviews. Can't wait til my pre order gets here. I did like the MP side for a little while ( beta ) but became tired of the same 2 maps in short order. When the beta ended I did miss not being able to spend a free hour playing though.
I didn't like not being able to pick a team and I didn't like the forced switch at the beginning of every map. I don't like the perk system but I don't like perks period. You should be enabled regardless of time played. hate getting slaughtered by somebody's forgotten 8 year old who does nothing but sit in front of his computer because his parents find it easier on them.
Hopefully the SP campaign won't be as bad or as short as described. BBC2 was short and very disappointing to say the least. Don't think I could take 2 disappointments in a row.
The best games in the past 3-4 or so years ( FPS..IMO ) were yes Crysis, FarCry2, the F.E.A.R. games and a couple I can't remember at the moment. The ones with all the hype were the worst.... the COD games ( stressing the online part ), and the battlefield games.... sure I could name a couple more if I sat here long enough..... but I'm nor 8 years old........................
jimmyjj 12th October 2010, 19:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
Bollocks to that.

You are not allowed to swear at the trolls Joe. You work here so that makes you "dad" and you have to set a good example.
MaverickWill 12th October 2010, 19:47 Quote
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
Bollocks to that.

You are not allowed to swear at the trolls Joe. You work here so that makes you "dad" and you have to set a good example.

Bollocks isn't a swear word. Tis a technical term.

As it stands, I personally think the game was scored too highly. The description Joe gives of the game as a whole, in the main text of the review, coincides TO ME with 4/10 on the score chart:

"4/10 - Disappointing
If a product is awarded a four, we feel that it has some serious problems or has questionable appeal, but it’s not a completely broken product. Look for alternatives unless you have a real reason not to."

Serious problems? Unrealistic, massively patriotic, only certain buildings can blow up, spawns of enemies can be right in front of you, can't kill drivers, invisible walls behind destructive environments... That sounds pretty serious.

Questionable appeal - it'll always have appeal, being Yet Another Sepia-Tinted War Game, but with all the turrets, even I've gone off it. That and the whole "Yeah, let's create stereotypical Taliban soldiers, wrap tea-towels round their heads, give them rocket launchers, and then NOT call them the Taliban!" thing left a bad taste in my mouth.

Alternatives? - Bad Company 2, Call of Duty... they're even listed as alternatives in the article.

I'm not questioning Joe's score - he may have had a better time than he let on, and I'm too negative, but I don't think I'm over-stepping the mark if I interpret the writing as-is to give an "in my head" score, am I?

As usual, personal opinion, yours may differ, blah.
October 12th October 2010, 19:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by south side sammy

The best games in the past 3-4 or so years ( FPS..IMO ) were yes Crysis, FarCry2, the F.E.A.R. games and a couple I can't remember at the moment. The ones with all the hype were the worst.... the COD games ( stressing the online part ), and the battlefield games.... sure I could name a couple more if I sat here long enough..... but I'm nor 8 years old........................

Yeah that's true, I don't remember any hype before Crysis or Fear came out... And Farcry 2? Barely even noticed it was being made
kzinti1 12th October 2010, 20:04 Quote
A very good review!
Just as I've known for quite a while, BF1942 was/is the only decent war game ever produced.
On-line games still suck. Any game that isn't first and foremost made for the single-player is always, ALWAYS, utter trash. A game is bought by an individual so the game should be made FOR the individual. Multi-player & on-line are not the icing on the cake. They're only the crap on the cutting room floor where they should be left to moulder.
WildThing 12th October 2010, 20:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by Gunsmith
oh god that thats another thing that can **** off! BUY OUR GAME TO GET BETA ACCESS!

gahhhh stop falling for this **** and it will go away!

+1 Completely agree, I know quite a few people who did this. I mean I want BF3 as much as the next guy, but I refuse to pay £30 for BETA access. :(
cgthomas 12th October 2010, 20:56 Quote
Crysis 2 where art thou
Cei 12th October 2010, 21:35 Quote
Pre-order for the PS3 version cancelled after reading that. I don't really do the whole MP side of things, and I simply don't buy games that get 5/10 (as that's what Joe said he gives for the SP with a point tacked on for MP). Yeah, I was buying a console version...
Gunsmith 12th October 2010, 21:36 Quote
crysis 2 is going to suck bollocks, mark my words.
CardJoe 12th October 2010, 21:53 Quote
Bollocks are becoming an increasingly important part of this thread, it appears.
frontline 12th October 2010, 21:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by cgthomas
Crysis 2 where art thou

In console hell
sotu1 12th October 2010, 23:29 Quote
Wow did you get out of the wrong side of bed when you wrote this!
nicae 13th October 2010, 00:07 Quote
You darn noobs. When will you learn that anything coming out from EA is a lame excuse to take your money, camouflaged as shite? Frankly...
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