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Arma II: Operation Arrowhead Review

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phantombudgie 29th June 2010, 22:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by Krayzie_B.o.n.e.
ArmA II is a game that represents the level of play that PC gamers expect. Arma II is not for casual gamers, N0obs, or entry level PCs as the game takes time to learn and master.
Excellent Game for HARDCORE GAMERS.

Nobody is permitted to learn how to play it then?

I play MW2 online sometimes (maybe 1/2 per week) and have played various FPS over the years, am I good enough by your standards or will I get abuse if I buy the game and try to play it?
Hovis 30th June 2010, 03:36 Quote
I would say of Arma that, while it is learnable, the learning curve is long. It's not massively steep, not really, but it just keeps going and going and going. I mean when I started playing Flashpoint 1985 back in the day I knew a bit about FPS games and that was it, and I learned bits and bobs, and now several years later I know basic British army section battle drills, I know how a platoon assault works, I know how to run a close target recce, how to use fire and movement effectively, the proper ambush and counter ambush drills, I know how to build and script for missions, and despite all this there's still a million other things I don't know. It is a huge, huge, game.
Krayzie_B.o.n.e. 30th June 2010, 03:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by phantombudgie
Nobody is permitted to learn how to play it then?

I play MW2 online sometimes (maybe 1/2 per week) and have played various FPS over the years, am I good enough by your standards or will I get abuse if I buy the game and try to play it?


NO your not because at the rate you play games ArmA 4 will be out before you learn how to set up and use the sniper rifle in Arma II. LOL just kidding

I'm not bagging on people but trying to convey a point that this is a Military Simulator and the game takes time to learn unlike a basic arcade shooter for a casual gamer.

No N0obs allowed as cheap tricks, hacks, spawn kills, jump shooting are not here. Only skill, tactics, and strategy.

The game is resource demanding and will require a decent rig to run and spending a bit of time optimizing display settings or ~ console settings to smooth out your type of game play.

Amra II is a great game so please go out and buy it just prepare to spend some time learning (single player campaign) before you jump into a multi player mode. It's a Great game that I'm sure you will enjoy.
Ending Credits 30th June 2010, 08:27 Quote
If you're interested in seriously playing this game then this is a must read. Most clans/squads will base themselves off the tactics in here.

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okenobi 30th June 2010, 10:59 Quote
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There are a load of graphics options you can tweak to match your spec, but the most important thing to know about Arma II is that unlike most games, the CPU and GPU are both very important. What were you thinking of buying?

I would also like an idea of what it takes. I would need to compromise on price, but a basic idea of a realistic minimum CPU and GPU would be cool.

Like would an i3-530 OCd be any good, or does it need to be i5-750/i7? And is it 5870 and above, or can you get away with less?
Lizard 30th June 2010, 11:07 Quote
If you overclock your i3-530 a lot it will really help. As for graphics cards, a 5870 should get you good frame rates at 1,680 x 1,050 with a combination of medium and high (but not very high) detail settings.
okenobi 30th June 2010, 11:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by Lizard
If you overclock your i3-530 a lot it will really help. As for graphics cards, a 5870 should get you good frame rates at 1,680 x 1,050 with a combination of medium and high (but not very high) detail settings.

Thanks. Looks like I'll be waiting till after the summer then! Can't afford a 5870 right now and I have a 1080p TV to fill up!

Would you need a joystick for vehicles?
Lizard 30th June 2010, 11:46 Quote
You can use joysticks, but even though I play flight sims with a proper HOTAS joystick (Logitech G940) I prefer to play Arma II with the keyboard and mouse, as this makes it easier to jump in and out of helicopters and do stuff on foot.
okenobi 30th June 2010, 12:01 Quote
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You can use joysticks, but even though I play flight sims with a proper HOTAS joystick (Logitech G940) I prefer to play Arma II with the keyboard and mouse, as this makes it easier to jump in and out of helicopters and do stuff on foot.

Thanks James, that makes sense. One more, then I promise I'll leave you alone!

Is a headset a must? And if so, how much should I expect to pay for something reasonable? I'll really like to give this game a proper go in the Autumn and it seems being able to listen to commands and response etc. might be quite important....
Lizard 30th June 2010, 12:45 Quote
A headset is important for any multiplayer game, so I'd recommend taking a look through this round-up we did earlier this year.
Jack_Pepsi 30th June 2010, 16:31 Quote
Ordered OA this mornin'!
robots 30th June 2010, 17:49 Quote
The weird thing about this game is the massive difference between single player and multiplayer.

In single player the game grinds to a halt on the large missions. This is because it's controlling ~100 or more individual AI's..... in a huge map, so it's all bogging down the CPU and your graphics card does nothing to help. So on missions like Manhatten, I had to drop all the settings to very low to make it playable.

However, when you go online and play multiplayer, there is no AI at all (and if there is, it's being handled by the person who is hosting the server anyway). So the CPU is barely being used and your graphics card can now do it's thing in peace. So online I could crank the settings to very high and I had a great time and it looked great.

This is all on my PC, which at the moment, is a C2D e6600, an 8800GTX, and 2gig of ram in Win XP. So I think that is pretty damn good considering the ageing specs. I've just ordered a HD 5870 with 2 more gig of ram so I can install Win7 64bit, and a SSD, and I am going to overclock my CPU again, so I'm hoping that will help things.

As for this new expansion, it sounds a bit disappointing to me. I was really looking forward to them finally coming up with a good campaign that actually works, but by the sounds of it, it's short and not that great. At least there is the multiplayer though, and fooling around in the editor, so I'll still buy it.
Omnituens 2nd July 2010, 14:00 Quote
I bought the pack off steam, had a co-op with a few friends last night, was really good, thought they were sshouting out distance and enemies, but even though they were telling me how to do it, I couldn't :(
WarMadMax 5th July 2010, 18:05 Quote
One thing i've found (and several people report on the ARMA2 forums) is that its very I/O intensive / Disk heavy, so much so i went and got one of those crucial C300 64GB's to play this and a few other choice games on.

was playing without a SSD on the original ARMA2 on domination maps, those are a hoot when you get a big squad together.
Invictus. 6th July 2010, 02:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by Lizard
In what way wasn't the review fair? We explored and listed the new features and new maps while making gamers unfamiliar with Arma II aware of the limitations (buggy AI, poorly scripted campaign) and brutal hardware requirements. Yet, despite all that we gave it a score of 8 and a Recommended Award.



You can hack the ini files to work with 2-card SLI, but it doesn't get any faster with 3-way SLI or Quad SLI. On the ATI side of things, I'm not sure how well it responds to CrossFire.


Sorry for the bump just seen the thread, but I wouldnt really recomend hacking or modding the ini files, as it can trigger fade ruining the game. And AFAIK the latest patches introduced SLI/CF support.
Krayzie_B.o.n.e. 6th July 2010, 23:30 Quote
"But can it run Stalker" "But can it run Crysis" "But can it run X3 Terran Conflict" YES......

" But can it run Arma II single player" uh oh! this is the question those in the know really ask as Arma II single player will stomp a new exhaust port in a mid range rig as the AI, Graphics, and Scale in this game is fierce.

"Repeat after me: 'If you don't know how to fly - don't jump in an Apache and ruin the mission for everyone else" Why do I feel Bit-Tech is singling me out on this one? Dam it I'm trying.

Arma II is the perfect example of why PC gaming is superior to filthy consoles
Lizard 7th July 2010, 11:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by Krayzie_B.o.n.e.
"Repeat after me: 'If you don't know how to fly - don't jump in an Apache and ruin the mission for everyone else" Why do I feel Bit-Tech is singling me out on this one? Dam it I'm trying.

LOL, if you're having trouble, why not create a simple mission in the editor and practice flying around. I'd recommend taking one of the medium size helicopters such as the UH1 or UH60 as there are reasonably nimble but not as twitchy as the small helicopters and are more responsive than the bus sized heavy transports.
WarMadMax 7th July 2010, 18:12 Quote
++ on the UH1 / UH60 suggestion, its a case of gradual changes, not flailing the mouse round chaotically.

I'm not the best flyer by any means but have done tree top insertions on missions, gave me a real buzz.

Low speed hovering is 10x harder to get the hang of than flying at speed for me as i'm used to how planes perform and the choppers perform similarly (banking, climbing etc..) at speed.

i'm always not quite correcting enough / too much at hover speeds when trying to land.
and bare in-mind, landing on a hill / slope will make the chopper slide down the slope on take off.
okenobi 7th July 2010, 18:28 Quote
Damn it! I want a new PC now, so I can practice and become a superb infil and exfil pilot for you lot!!
Lizard 7th July 2010, 18:58 Quote
You can make things easier for yourself when landing by enabling auto-hover - it is a bit of a cheat (albeit ingame and official) but it takes a lot of the stress out of landing, especially if you're trying to make a deck approach onto an aircraft carrier at night in a thunderstorm.
LightningPete 9th July 2010, 00:12 Quote
The reason why this game is just amazing, and getting better, is because of 2 reasons.

Its not an FPS aka Call of duty pubescence title
Its a PC EXCLUSIVE.
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