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Far Cry 2 is Underappreciated

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Hovis 20th April 2010, 20:53 Quote
I think a mod as well made as Oblivion Lost for Far Cry 2 could have made it a classic. So many elements of that game were within a tweak/wrench of being really good that it's a crying shame that nothing could be done to fix them.

It's a big trend though these days, making games user-unfriendly, usually just to sell more DLC. In the long term it's a genuine gamble because you lose a lot of fan base and brand loyalty from the players, but you gain money. Hard to argue against it in those terms.
Grape Flavor 20th April 2010, 23:14 Quote
Some people can appreciate meticulous, immersive, stealthy games, some can't. What's the recurring theme in people bashing Far Cry, Crysis, Far Cry 2? That it's "boring". Or "too hard". And if you insist all your games play like Call of Duty, I guess it is. Everyone's tastes are different and just because you personally don't enjoy Far Cry/Crysis doesn't mean it's a sh*t game, or all the reviewers are liars or stupid.

I like to picture all these posters like Angry German Kid, smashing their keyboard while they're driving around the savanna or walking across the island. KOMME AHHHNNNNNN!!!!!! I VANT AKKTIOON!!!!! NO MORE DRIVINK!!!!! NO MORE SNEAKKINK!!!!! I VANT TO SHOOOOOOOT!!!!

Of course there are some valid criticisms, like too-quickly-respawning checkpoints, or Far Cry/Crysis suddenly becoming more linear in the end stages. But I believe most of the haters simply don't like this kind of game, and blame their personal preference on developer incompetence. I just wait for the day these people realize these games just aren't for them, so the rest of us don't have to listen to all this vitriol every time a new entry comes to market.
GiantStickMan 20th April 2010, 23:47 Quote
I think some people are taking this article too seriously, like the people claiming they wasted their money based on the positive reviews at the time. Craig obviously thoroughly enjoyed the game, the fact he wrote this article about it long after its release is testament to that, and at the end of the day any review is just the opinion of the person writing it - much like this article.
Though to say this game was under-appreciated was perhaps a bit of a stretch?
Personally I'd take this game over Crysis any day but again - that's just my opinion and I wouldn't say you were wrong for not agreeing with it.
Gunsmith 20th April 2010, 23:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by GiantStickMan
I think some people are taking this article too seriously, like the people claiming they wasted their money based on the positive reviews at the time. Craig obviously thoroughly enjoyed the game, the fact he wrote this article about it long after its release is testament to that, and at the end of the day any review is just the opinion of the person writing it - much like this article.
Though to say this game was under-appreciated was perhaps a bit of a stretch?
Personally I'd take this game over Crysis any day but again - that's just my opinion and I wouldn't say you were wrong for not agreeing with it.

thats what i wanted, instead i got cod in africa with some shitty open world mechanics, adhd pacing and a rubbish engine. :|
impar 21st April 2010, 10:03 Quote
Greetings!
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Originally Posted by Gunsmith
thats what i wanted, instead i got cod in africa with some shitty open world mechanics, adhd pacing and a rubbish engine. :|
And Malaria.
gavomatic57 21st April 2010, 13:59 Quote
Huge open world, destructable terrain objects, fire propagation, realistic physics, and a user-friendly level editor. Yeah, terrible engine...:(
thehippoz 21st April 2010, 16:47 Quote
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Moan Moan Moan lol

Oops - shall I say it - oh go on then - Great Article and I Like the new look of the Website.

And err yes the game has some issues - but I really enjoyed it and got wrapped up in the narrative so much that by the end I was emotionally drained.

And I played it on the 360 too.

My major grip is the lack of civilians but the game was just gorgeous to look at and play and in places was fun and quite interesting - I also did a lot of driving to edges of areas to avoid those patrols which in a war torn country of million would be many.

Its a long game and I really enjoyed the 2nd half also bombing about in a boat etc. In many ways the is a better experience and feel objectively more realistic and fun the dying a trillion times in games - which I also enjoy at times - like halo and modern warfare 2.

I for one hope they iron out the problems and give us a FarCry 3!
its definitely my cuppa chae.

I rest my case :D
Skiddywinks 21st April 2010, 19:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by gavomatic57
Huge open world...

Yay. Deserts.
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...destructable terrain objects, fire propagation, realistic physics,

The destruction was seriously not as good as a lot of other games (including Crysis), the fire propagation across the ground and huts was pretty good, but at the end of the day, that's all it was; fire moving to other huts or other grass. Yay.

And while the physics were good, and I certainly had nothing wrong with them, I don't find that such a rare occurrence in games nowadays.

and a user-friendly level editor. Yeah, terrible engine...:([/QUOTE]

Good point.
Elton 22nd April 2010, 03:43 Quote
I repeat my case, if the engine had been a bit more open and allowed for modding..Then this game would've risen beyond.
curme 22nd April 2010, 08:33 Quote
The steath screwed me up. Even in the bushes they'd magically see me. That was annoying, and the spawning.
idontwannaknow 22nd April 2010, 16:00 Quote
I liked the look of it, nearly bought it for a pittance in a Steam sale, then noticed that it had SecureROM, even on steam.

Sod that for a bunch of soldiers, I avoid it when I can- though sometimes get caught out.
phuzz 22nd April 2010, 17:44 Quote
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Originally Posted by mastorofpuppetz
did the guy above say most diverse game ever? LMAo, its the most repetitive game ever, many games do diverse ten times better.

Nah, I said divisive, as in, people's opinions on it are really divided, between, "omg this game is crap crap CRAP" and "it was ok".
I might have spelt it diverse tho, my bad
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Maybe if they didn't ALL want you dead. One of the most annoying things about FC2 was that no matter where you were going you had to stop at every single intersection and kill all the black people.
Yeah, that's what I meant by npc, a civilian, knew there was a better way of phrasing it.
Rogan 23rd April 2010, 17:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by Fractal
FarCry2 Gameplay:
1: Get Target.
2: Drive to target.
3: Shoot everyone.
4: Drive back to safehouse.
5: Repeat steps 1 through 5.

I'm sorry but I have never played a more dull and repetitive RTS.

I'd agree with that wholeheartedly if you'd have pointed out the mission is ALWAYS 2/3 of the way across the map, passing through umpteen repetitive armed checkpoints which you just cleared 15 minutes ago.

Oh and that shed, that shed always has the same number of guards, dependant on your skill and progress through the game. Better just hope one of them hasn't gone walkabout or you'll never get the door open.

Some of the missions are good, but you'd think fast travel was the devil's work.

If you're going to make the hardcore guys trundle around the map endlessly then so be it. But give normal human beings with normal attention spans a chance. Playing Far Cry 2 all the way to completion's worse than an MMO where you work a virtual job in your spare time.

God forbid you actually ever get to your job to do some virtual work. In Far Cry 2 you get to commute in your spare time, endlessly. It's like being a sales rep, but instead of driving up and down the M1 you spend all your time driving around the sodding lake in the middle of the map.

OK, I feel better now.
smc8788 23rd April 2010, 18:09 Quote
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Some of the missions are good, but you'd think fast travel was the devil's work.

If you're going to make the hardcore guys trundle around the map endlessly then so be it. But give normal human beings with normal attention spans a chance. Playing Far Cry 2 all the way to completion's worse than an MMO where you work a virtual job in your spare time.

God forbid you actually ever get to your job to do some virtual work. In Far Cry 2 you get to commute in your spare time, endlessly. It's like being a sales rep, but instead of driving up and down the M1 you spend all your time driving around the sodding lake in the middle of the map.

So are you saying you didn't use the buses at all when you played FC2? No wonder you hated it
tupera 23rd April 2010, 21:03 Quote
Far cry 2 was so bad I couldn’t even bring myself to finish it…even though I shelled out $50 for it.

Oh, and you forgot to mention the part where you could unload an entire clip into a man wearing nothing but a T-shirt and he would just stand there and laugh at you!

Seriously!?!
tupera 23rd April 2010, 21:11 Quote
Stupid cut and paste...this is what it was supposed to look like:

Far cry 2 was so bad I couldn't even bring myself to finish it...even though I shelled out $50 for it.

Oh, and you forgot to mention the part where you could unload an entire clip into a man wearing nothing but a T-shirt and he would just stand there and laugh at you!

Seriously!?!
mastorofpuppetz 24th April 2010, 03:44 Quote
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So are you saying you didn't use the buses at all when you played FC2? No wonder you hated it

LMAO, using busses does not change the fact the game was still forgetable.

The buses didnt change the fact a lot of missions still had long repetitious trips through the same boring check points and the same tshirt wearing enemies with super fast jeeps. yawn.
Rogan 24th April 2010, 17:25 Quote
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So are you saying you didn't use the buses at all when you played FC2? No wonder you hated it


Most of the time the buses were miles away from the start and end points. I used them a couple of times, but it seemed like a waste of time. I guess you might avoid checkpoints that way.
brightlights 24th April 2010, 17:28 Quote
I liked the overall general idea of far cry 2 but it did kinda lacked something
Rogan 24th April 2010, 17:31 Quote
It almost put me off Just Cause 2, which in some ways is even more formulaic.

I'm having a lot more fun there though, even if I am just toodling about 100%ing bases in Merc Mode. I guess I need my jets and fast travel. I can't even stomach flying about in helicopters now, although that's probably more due to the fact that, at this point, getting into a helicopter seems to send the entire Panau Air Force in my direction.
smc8788 24th April 2010, 17:34 Quote
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Originally Posted by mastorofpuppetz
LMAO, using busses does not change the fact the game was still forgetable.

The buses didnt change the fact a lot of missions still had long repetitious trips through the same boring check points and the same tshirt wearing enemies with super fast jeeps. yawn.

Oh I'm not saying they made the game amazing, I'm just saying that without them the game would be boring to the point it's unplayable. I can't remember going anywhere without using the buses, and even then I didn't finish the game. The atmosphere was pretty good, but the gameplay just very tedious.
fabler 26th April 2010, 09:10 Quote
I've farcry 2 a PS3 version. And after buying it I found it very disappointing. Boring and Repeated missions. Doesn't have a great story like in farcry 1. Malaria is one of the bad concept of the game. I don't know why it is there.
fabler 26th April 2010, 09:12 Quote
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I've farcry 2 a PS3 version. And after buying it I found it very disappointing. Boring and Repeated missions. Doesn't have a great story like in farcry 1. Malaria is one of the bad concept of the game. I don't know why it is there.

The bus transport is great but should have improved.
raybies 29th April 2010, 01:57 Quote
It was/is a PoS!
I didn't even pay much for it, but I regret wasting my time on... I don't trust any web/mag that rated this game good.

Like a fool I continued to play thinking that it's going to change real soon in a big way and be awesome... after 5 hrs play, I gave up.

Deleted for ever!

Even the name is a blight on Crytek, cos Far Cry 1 was TOTALLY AWESOME.

UbiSoft stick to publishing!

And all you's that gave FC2 (f'ing cr*p 2) good scores, shame on you.
south side sammy 30th April 2010, 20:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by tupera
Far cry 2 was so bad I couldn’t even bring myself to finish it…even though I shelled out $50 for it.

Oh, and you forgot to mention the part where you could unload an entire clip into a man wearing nothing but a T-shirt and he would just stand there and laugh at you!

Seriously!?!

That's what you get when you play on "easy". Your fault not the games'. Hardest setting and you have to save the game after you take 5 steps or you get slaughtered. And if you're dumb enough to stay on the road and in vehicles you miss a great portion of the game.
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