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Borderlands PC Review

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philheckler 5th November 2009, 13:16 Quote
Great and fair reveiw , although some aspects of the game can be annoying i really just can't stop playing it... so much fun and i haven't tried multiplayer yet....
Tsung 5th November 2009, 13:19 Quote
Good review, it seems you skipped over the multiplayer game aspects of the game. It uses gamespy to find friends, and hosting a game usually involves forwarding ports on your router and a lot of luck to work. Most people use Gameranger or Tunngle but it's 2009 we shouldn't need to do this. The XP system is also flawed, allowing a level 1 person to join a level 30 players game (no clue until you get in) meaning the level 1 chap cant kill anything. However when the level 30 person does kill something the level 1 chap gets a huge XP boost.
Great fun playing with friends, but playing with randoms is a different matter. There is no roll/drop/loot system in place, first come, first served (including quest rewards it appears). Must be so frustrating to have random loot ninja's hoover up the loot/drops which you can use :(,

I've enjoyed playing it single player, 2 player multiplayer. With 4 friends it became a bit pointless, I didn't have to play, just let them do the quests and I'll hand in the rewards. It's a tad annoying when aiming for a sniper shot to only have someone else fire the LOL Rocketlauncher at your target. Oh well..
kenco_uk 5th November 2009, 13:21 Quote
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...the cars can be particularly difficult to control if you’re playing on PC too, as there doesn’t seem to be an option to disable mouse steering.

wtf?! Steering with the mouse? Are you joking? :p
Sifter3000 5th November 2009, 13:28 Quote
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...the cars can be particularly difficult to control if you’re playing on PC too, as there doesn’t seem to be an option to disable mouse steering.

wtf?! Steering with the mouse? Are you joking? :p

It worked for E-type on the Acorn Archimedes, and look how that turned out...
Sleepstreamer 5th November 2009, 13:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by kenco_uk
wtf?! Steering with the mouse? Are you joking? :p

It really isn't that bad, played it alot last weekend and the crappyness of the vehicle weapons is much more annoying than the steering.
xaser04 5th November 2009, 13:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by philheckler
Great and fair reveiw , although some aspects of the game can be annoying i really just can't stop playing it... so much fun and i haven't tried multiplayer yet....

Completely agree with this.

I didn't know anything about borderlands before I bought it and I can't stop playing it once I start.

It runs well, plays well, looks good and put quite bluntly fun.
GFC 5th November 2009, 13:44 Quote
If it only had a minimap and like.. hm.. idk 1000 more levels?
It's one of the best games if not at all time than this year for sure. Competed it twice and I still want more!
Here's for hoping that DLC of their will be out soon.

P.S. 8/10? C'mon, it's better than that!
UncertainGod 5th November 2009, 14:01 Quote
It's a fantastic game with a few oversights and niggles (most of which are the fault of the frankly terrible UE3). I do wish I knew a few more people with the game to get some good multiplayer going on for the second run through.
loftie 5th November 2009, 14:09 Quote
I have to say that borderlands has to be one of my favourite games. It's a good game, but I'm addicted. I normally play 2 - 4 player, and it's a great laugh.

Also google the Claptrap movies - can be found on youtube. They made me laugh too :)
UncertainGod 5th November 2009, 14:30 Quote
Ok, just fired it up and encountered Mothrakk, my word he killed me rather fast several times, and then I ran away.
paisa666 5th November 2009, 14:42 Quote
The comments i have seen in this section are the same words a good friend told me, the game is all fun, even watching the video review on another website i realized is a game im looking to buy.

But again i find Bit-Tech review kind of unfair, the last page says its a fun game, but the other three pages says all kinds of flaws the game has making me have second thoughs about buying it.

I gotta say the same happened to me with Fallout 3, i didnt want to buy the game because of Bit-tech review, then i saw a video review and all i my instant thoughs was "awesome".

Bit-Tech hardware reviews are awesome, but somehow i dont fully trust Bit-Tech video games reviews.
UncertainGod 5th November 2009, 14:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by paisa666
The comments i have seen in this section are the same words a good friend told me, the game is all fun, even watching the video review on another website i realized is a game im looking to buy.

But again i find Bit-Tech review kind of unfair, the last page says its a fun game, but the other three pages says all kinds of flaws the game has making me have second thoughs about buying it.

I gotta say the same happened to me with Fallout 3, i didnt want to buy the game because of Bit-tech review, then i saw a video review and all i my instant thoughs was "awesome".

Bit-Tech hardware reviews are awesome, but somehow i dont fully trust Bit-Tech video games reviews.

Got to admit this is pretty much my feeling as well.
CardJoe 5th November 2009, 15:08 Quote
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Originally Posted by paisa666
The comments i have seen in this section are the same words a good friend told me, the game is all fun, even watching the video review on another website i realized is a game im looking to buy.

But again i find Bit-Tech review kind of unfair, the last page says its a fun game, but the other three pages says all kinds of flaws the game has making me have second thoughs about buying it.

I gotta say the same happened to me with Fallout 3, i didnt want to buy the game because of Bit-tech review, then i saw a video review and all i my instant thoughs was "awesome".

Bit-Tech hardware reviews are awesome, but somehow i dont fully trust Bit-Tech video games reviews.

Apologies if you're feeling that way - I'm always open to feedback either through the forums or over email ( Joe dot Martin at Bit-tech.net ) if you want to discuss it in more detail. That said, the overall tone of the review seems to have come across clear to others - that it's a game with a few very irritating, recurring and stupid errors when it comes to balancing the enemies against you and the enemy AI, but that doesn't stop the game being very addictive thanks to an unusual presentation, moreish loot system and the sense of humour wired throughout the game.

One thing I've decided I really hate since the review - special weapon descriptions. Some rare weapons carry labels like "I feel like I'm going to break this thing" or "THE LEGEND LIVES!" and it's entirely unclear what that means and how it affects the weapon. When I find a SMG with a special ability called "Close Quarters Feline" then what the hell am I supposed to think? It's especially annoying when you just end up ALT-TABbing out and looking it up online only to find out that it means it slows your walking speed by one percent or something similarly inane or specific.
batfink 5th November 2009, 15:20 Quote
@paisa666 and UncertainGod

Surely it's harder to trust the magazines/websites which routinely give games 90%+ reviews, and never score a game less than 70%. On the odd occasion a game gets a slagging, it's a novelty title reviewed only to show how impressively derogatory and witty the reviewer can be.

Indeed, if every game that's half decent gets a 9, then what do you do when something truly groundbreaking comes out? I still think Edge magazine got it right years ago. Give 9 to a mind-bogglingly great game, nothing less. Reserve 10 for the game (Half-Life, for example) that comes out and redefines the boundaries of what you hitherto considered to be mind-bogglingly great.

And, let's be honest, a game and a piece of hardware could not be more different. One is designed to entertain, one is designed to carry out a function. Reviewing hardware simply requires you to review the available data. Reviewing a game requires you to make a personal decision as to whether the game succeeds or fails, and is thus inevitably more complex and open to interpretation than a review of a hard disk.
CardJoe 5th November 2009, 15:34 Quote
That's an interesting point. I also think that, as far as games go, there's an inherent conflict presented between dedicated games magazines, their schedules and readerships, and the release dates and games they cover. I'm probably incredibly biased on this topic, but I can't help noticing the trends on Metacritic where, on the whole, the magazines always give the super high 90% and 100% scores and then, as you move down the chart, you see the more honest scores come from websites who have spent a longer period with the same version of the game that will be released.

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/dragonageorigins
lewchenko 5th November 2009, 15:49 Quote
I have read on various forums about lots of people complaining that the FOV (Field of view) is borked on the PC version, and it constantly makes you appear to be 'zoomed in'. They also commented that the mouse sensitivity is also borked.

This put me off the game straight away, but isnt mentioned at all in the review... so Im wondering whether its true or not. ???

Big thread about fixing the FOV issue here : http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1463861
CardJoe 5th November 2009, 15:51 Quote
I didn't notice any FOV issue. The mouse IS super sensitive, but it's also a very personal thing. Personally I prefer quite a sluggish mouse, so I dropped the sensitivity slide to minimum and it worked fine.
UrbanMarine 5th November 2009, 16:00 Quote
BT needs to do a article on the Return of COOP. I think it's funny back in the day people couldn't stand it and now it's this big new thing.
UncertainGod 5th November 2009, 16:04 Quote
The FOV issues as well as every other documented problem of the UE3 are present but are fixed in the usual manner, thankfully with Borderlands you don't have to use a hex editor to edit the ini files like you do with some other UE3 games.
vampalan 5th November 2009, 16:15 Quote
Was looking at it on Amazon, people are really complaining about the DRM, any comments here?
capmoq 5th November 2009, 16:17 Quote
Played it and really don't like it. Graphics isn't good imo and the gameplay is poor.
UncertainGod 5th November 2009, 16:18 Quote
Aren't Anti-DRM posts mandatory on every PC game posted on Amazon?
vampalan 5th November 2009, 16:23 Quote
Was just thinking, there's no deathmatch/etc.
That would be fun to run around in deathmatch, suppose I'll have to play TF2 then for that.

So its basically a Diablo like game in FPS style, as in you complete the game and go back and do it again on a harder level?
xaser04 5th November 2009, 16:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by lewchenko
I have read on various forums about lots of people complaining that the FOV (Field of view) is borked on the PC version, and it constantly makes you appear to be 'zoomed in'. They also commented that the mouse sensitivity is also borked.

This put me off the game straight away, but isnt mentioned at all in the review... so Im wondering whether its true or not. ???

Big thread about fixing the FOV issue here : http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1463861

You can turn off the FOV and adjust the mouse sensitivity so the complaints don't seem to have any merit.

It should be noted though that the default mouse sensitivity is VERY high (this may be where the complaints are stemming from?).

I would think its fair to conclude that bordelands is not a game without it faults but put simply they don't matter as its just a good fun game.
Tsung 5th November 2009, 16:47 Quote
No deathmatch, but you can challenge your friends in a 1v1 fight.. You hit them, they hit you back, and its on.. A large dome appears over you two and you slug it out inside this dome.

As for FOV / Console Control / Mouse steering you can adjust these in the ini files. Not ideal, but still you can.. Whilst you are there, don't forget to comment out the 4 intro movies that play before the game even loads!
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