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Dragon Age: Origins Review

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Toka 4th November 2009, 08:58 Quote
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Well, we didn't test video requirements and all that because our code wasn't totally bug-fixed yet. Also, you can get that information off the back of the box.

Utterly ridiculous.

Why bother ever including a graphics / hardware requirements test in any of your reviews then? Because this information is always on the back of the box and relevent to the end userr, right?

Im sure we all use the recomended system specs for GTA4 / Crysis et al.
Journeyer 4th November 2009, 09:55 Quote
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You buffoon!

Obvious answer was, after all, obvious.

The reason I asked was that if it did suit the PS3, then maybe the missus could get her pregnant hands on it as well. She's not really comfortable gaming in front of the PC anymore, and as such the PS3 is better. But I guess she'll have to make do with Assassins Creed. :D
fatty beef 4th November 2009, 14:47 Quote
I was at first taken a back by this review. However after reading it through again and thinking about it... it is pretty dead on. This isnt some crazy revolutionary piece of code awesomeness but so far Id say a solid piece of work. I played for several hours yesterday, definatley different from ME. But in all honesty how revolutionary is a hero/avatar story line.

Some dude kills your family --- you get lost in someone elses conflict --- meet some weird and interesting people --- vengence and glory for everyone. Pretty standard all around and usually satisfying enough. I dont have a great deal of time to sit around and play computer games so for 45 minutes to a little over an hour a sitting; it seems like it should be satisfying and engaging enough especially if I dont have to think to hard about it.

The conversations seem solid, voice acting impressive, graphics not mind blowing (consolificaiton for sure) however still looks good on medium settings on my HD 4200 iGPU. Better than anything Ive seen on a 360.

Reasons to buy this game: If you like fantasy RPG's then buy it, play it and enjoy it. Realize it is a successor to the Forgotten Realms games with out being a Forgotten Realms game. It is what it is, more indepth than Mass Effect Id say and the side quests at least have some purpose for now, but it doesnt do anything revolutionary. Game play is smooth and I dont think the controls are that bad. You know what youre going to get and thats appealing to me.

Reasons to pass: This isnt your favourite genre and you unreastically expect it to be a glorious piece of code that will change gaming as we know it.

Also on a final note in this rant, sorry about the book by the way, this is probably the last game that we will get that isnt totally and completely tainted by EA. I dont think they got their hands on this one.... mostly... aside from the console porting. I have a feeling they will eventually be the end of BioWare as we knew them. Cheers.
thehippoz 4th November 2009, 15:07 Quote
too many rpg games out at the same time.. gonna be awhile till I get around to playing
captfsh 4th November 2009, 16:23 Quote
I think Joe is a bit jaded on RPG games. He slams the game as boring and old-hash but then proclaims that game excels. Also, Joe complains about the game being long and drawn out before the story\game gets to the meat. Hello? That is the whole point of the game that we have been hearing for a year now. Thus, the name "origins". It was designed to give a long introduction to your character.
CardJoe 4th November 2009, 19:03 Quote
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I think Joe is a bit jaded on RPG games. He slams the game as boring and old-hash but then proclaims that game excels. Also, Joe complains about the game being long and drawn out before the story\game gets to the meat. Hello? That is the whole point of the game that we have been hearing for a year now. Thus, the name "origins". It was designed to give a long introduction to your character.

Not really. The Origins story bits themselves are actually fairly short. One hour is a conservative time for a first run and takes into account learning the controls. It's the bits after that are a pain where you're being pushed through a bunch of boring info and setting.
DarkLord7854 4th November 2009, 19:08 Quote
The camera is really pissing me off...
Tyinsar 5th November 2009, 18:58 Quote
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Instead, Dragon Age is mostly filled with predictable and uninspiring location designs – brown houses, grey cities, swamps a-plenty – which it seems Bioware has attempted to spice up by throwing a more immature approach to violence and romance than it is usually known for. There are brothels to visit and a ‘persistent gore’ has blood-soaked adventurers calmly explaining themselves to NPCs, while brutal finishing moves occasionally come into play.
Sounds like the preview I read of Diablo 3. I think I'll try Torchlight instead
cyrilthefish 5th November 2009, 23:30 Quote
Must say it's everything i was hoping it'd be so far, i've been entranced by it for many hours today :)

only have had two niggles with it:

release date: have had it pre-ordered on steam for ages, but discovering that USA had it unlocked since Tuesday, the majority of the EU had it unlocked Wednesday but the UK has to wait until Friday for no apparent reason was a huge slap in the face.

The only reason i got to play it today was i torrented it so i could play that until the time my steam copy unlocks.
Still, i hear the save will carry across and then i can apply the pre-order items after that, but i shouldn't have to end up pirating it when i've pre-ordered it to avoid having to wait longer than the rest of the planet to play the game... :?

As was mentioned in the review, some textures (seemingly at random) are decidedly low res even with all graphics maxed... Though i hope a future mod will fix this like the texture mods for fallout3 did :)
cyrilthefish 6th November 2009, 02:28 Quote
Playing it a bit more, the only other complaint i have is the whole 'persistent bloodsplatter' thing is overdone by several orders of magnitude.

Seriously, it looks damn silly when you're trying to watch a supposedly serious cutscene that looks like the aftermath of a red paint factory explosion

gore = fine
ludicrous levels of gore not in a comedy = silliness, seriously detracts from anything serious the game is trying to imply with the cut-scene
DarkLord7854 6th November 2009, 02:53 Quote
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Seriously, it looks damn silly when you're trying to watch a supposedly serious cutscene that looks like the aftermath of a red paint factory explosion


Indeed, it is quite funny at first though.. having a discussion and everyone's covered in red paint :D
Paradigm Shifter 6th November 2009, 14:05 Quote
My copy finally arrived this morning. Something to play this evening... :D
fatty beef 6th November 2009, 18:40 Quote
Youve got red on you.....
Hovis 7th November 2009, 13:52 Quote
I've had this game a while and maybe it's the sleep deprivation, maybe it's the hunger, or maybe it's Stockholm Syndrome since I've been held completely hostage by it since the first quest, but I think it's a work of art. If it was not a violation of all natures laws I'd make this game my wife. It had me the moment I got to name my colossal slavering warhound 'Wiggles'.

Regarding the gore in cutscenes, I'm astonished how wrong everybody is about this. The gore is awesome. Severed heads and spilled guts are awesome. Standing there, listening to the quest conclude in a cutscene while you're still dripping with the blood of the scumbags you've just hacked to ribbons is AWESOME. Are you supposed to stop for a bath and a full armour scrub after you've just stabbed up a bunch of badguys? Hell no. Raspberry jam everywhere. Love it. Wiggles has an attack where he jumps on a baddie and basically just tears their throat and torso apart, he's literally the best dog since Hand Banana, and of course that sort of thing is going to make a hell of a mess.

The other major plus point for me is that I've clocked twenty hours in the game so far on my main character and I'm about 20% through according to the in game progressometer. I'd played, completed and binned Brutal Legend in probably half that time, and there is also the fact that Dragon Age, like Mass Effect, can be replayed on the opposite end of the niceness spectrum (and more, as there are several choices I've made so far I'd like to make again). The game is massive but oozes quality throughout. It's like being confronted with a three ton birthday cake of content rather than the eight hour muffin supper you get from most games these days.
thehippoz 7th November 2009, 16:08 Quote
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I've had this game a while and maybe it's the sleep deprivation, maybe it's the hunger, or maybe it's Stockholm Syndrome since I've been held completely hostage by it since the first quest, but I think it's a work of art. If it was not a violation of all natures laws I'd make this game my wife..

=] sounds like when I first played oblivion
liratheal 7th November 2009, 17:15 Quote
It might just be me, but I've been feeling more and more put off Bioware titles ever since NWN. I don't know why, but they feel like good products - It would be insane to argue otherwise - But they just feel so very, very loose.

Everything I want is there, but the stitching that holds it all together seems to be either falling apart or absolutely missing in some places. It's annoying me because I can't put my finger on it and move on to enjoying the game, it's just a hump that I've got stuck on with pretty much everything Bioware has done since 2002.

I'll be picking this up when it goes on a Steam weekend sale or something, I don't feel drawn to it like I would want to be for an RPG. It doesn't matter that it's not ground breaking - What more can the RPG scene really do that hasn't been done a multitude of times before?.

Good review, I think, but I don't think Bioware will be getting a sale out of my any time soon.
DarkLord7854 7th November 2009, 21:05 Quote
Just beat the game, wonderful story, loved it.
cyrilthefish 7th November 2009, 23:20 Quote
One little niggle i'm having with the sound volume:

The sound effects in battle are too loud and the ingame volume sliders seems to be an equal effect to everything, so i have a choice of too loud battle sounds/music or too quiet ambient sounds/music...

Any ideas how to fix? I want be able to hear the background music (which is awesome) without getting deafened every time combat starts :?
Kiytan 8th November 2009, 00:50 Quote
Played it today, made 2 characters (just to see how different the stories really where) And for the rich human rogue start...good lord the voice acting is bad. Infact it annoyed me so much i made a poor dwarf warrior, which seemed a bit better. It seems the voice acting gets better as you go along (Aeryn sun and Captain Janeway are related? HELL YES :P)

On the subject of voices, thats one thing i really do miss from mass effect. My character having a voice.

Overall the game seemed pretty good, and I'm certainly getting more into it the further i go along.
cyrilthefish 8th November 2009, 01:48 Quote
Hehe, i've come across a problem others have mentioned on the forums...

I have the vicious dog and named him 'fluffy', and then there's the legendary sarcasm fallout between Alistair and Morrigan... How on earth do i swap any of those characters out of the party *ever*? :)

http://social.bioware.com/da_game_screenshots/28000/27036/Kaorin_630.jpg
DarkLord7854 8th November 2009, 02:46 Quote
I named my dog fluffy too :(
CardJoe 8th November 2009, 10:06 Quote
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On the subject of voices, thats one thing i really do miss from mass effect. My character having a voice.

I miss that - and the fact that Shepherd moved around when speaking - pointing, gesturing, threatening. Makes a big difference.
liratheal 8th November 2009, 12:10 Quote
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I miss that - and the fact that Shepherd moved around when speaking - pointing, gesturing, threatening. Makes a big difference.

The immersion was broken for me when Shepard talks to the fan who wants an autograph, the movements were all somewhat.. wrong.

Otherwise, yes, that did add a very welcome air to the conversations.
thehippoz 8th November 2009, 15:49 Quote
I like how shepard went from space cowboy to a freak at the drop of a hat.. too bad there was no hot coffee mod to be found though

cyril I think that pic sealed the deal for me XD I have to play it now
liratheal 8th November 2009, 16:45 Quote
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I like how shepard went from space cowboy to a freak at the drop of a hat.. too bad there was no hot coffee mod to be found though

cyril I think that pic sealed the deal for me XD I have to play it now

Even uptight commanders have needs! :p
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