you dumb to think consoles gaming is going be around for long time.
Ok, now I'm going to step in an official capacity and give you a proper warning. Stop trolling and multi-posting so stupidly. If you have a legitimate point to make or want to have a serious discussion then at least have the dignity to engage in an open back and forth instead of getting entrenched with a selection of links and feeble name calling.
You're being obtuse and refusing to actually listen to or tolerate what others are saying, so; official public warning. You only get one of these.
I don't think PC gaming is "dying". It is however changing and evolving. The days of the huge releases that dominated the PC gaming calendar are probably over - I'm thinking of the years between 1997-2001, where each year titles like System Shock 2, Half-Life, UT99, Q3, Deus Ex, Baldur's Gate, Starcraft, Diablo 2, the list goes on and on. One area where PC gaming has led and will continue to lead is online, where consoles have finally got online experiences similar to what PC gamers have been enjoying for years. Ultimately, consoles are becoming more like PCs, with their hard drives, network connectivity, and complex functionality.
Wow another fantastic articall on a subject thats close to our hart's.
The 2 biggest biggest problem's in pc gaming currently (at least as I see it) Is that A. there is a section off our pc communitea that belleive's that large company's (not just games manufacturers but ALL large global brands) are destroying the plannet, enslaving the population and generall working towards towards the "New wourld order".
If you want to know more about this phenominon download and watch the movie "zeitguist"
Now if you beleive that large company's are inherently "evil" It's really not that hard to convince yourself that pirateing games is not "morally wrong" and that buy pirating you are actually helping to make the wourld a better place!!!
And secondly these large company's buy cracking down on pirats and ruining there products with drm are just re-enforcing the pirates veiw that that they are right.
It's a huge catch 22 that if it's not sorted will eventually kill pc gaming. The only reason it hasn't allready is that the pc isn't just a gaming mashine.
So next time you're going for that download button,,,, think twice. just because you can dousn't mean you should. Not if you love you're pc and want it to servive the comming storm!!!!!!
A storm would be easy to deal with. Instead what we're getting is rising water tables. Soon the valleys will be lost to us and we'll be sitting on hilltops. Then the hilltops will be gone and the survivors will be huddled together on mountaintops. Good metaphor, no? :P
Originally Posted by Ph4ZeD I don't think PC gaming is "dying". It is however changing and evolving. The days of the huge releases that dominated the PC gaming calendar are probably over - I'm thinking of the years between 1997-2001, where each year titles like System Shock 2, Half-Life, UT99, Q3, Deus Ex, Baldur's Gate, Starcraft, Diablo 2, the list goes on and on. One area where PC gaming has led and will continue to lead is online, where consoles have finally got online experiences similar to what PC gamers have been enjoying for years. Ultimately, consoles are becoming more like PCs, with their hard drives, network connectivity, and complex functionality.
Pretty much. After all, as the conclusion obviously implies, PC gaming obviously isn't dying - but it IS changing and evolving. That's a provable point of view expressed across through the entire article, though Dreamhunk obviously failed to pick up on it.
+ Rep to you.
And...ugh. Zeitgeist? Really? You want to believe that trash?
Originally Posted by hrtz_Junkie And secondly these large company's buy cracking down on pirats and ruining there products with drm are just re-enforcing the pirates veiw that that they are right.
I'd agree with the point made here since "offensive" DRM has greatly reduced the number of PC games purchases I make.
A few years back, I would happily wander into a store and pick up any game that took my fancy, safe in the knowledge that I could visit a site like GameCopyWorld to deal with irritating CD checks.
Then along came StarForce and I could no longer assume that fixes would be available. That meant having to check on games before purchase, killing off any impulse buys and (largely) removing the point of visiting games stores - if you're going to look up a game online, why not purchase it there also? I only purchased one more game from a store as a result.
Now, I have to check the details of any game for DRM details beforehand (gaming review sites and magazines almost all neglect this - why?). There's a long list of games that I would have purchased, but for their online activation requirement (Bioshock, Crysis Warhead, Empire Total War, Neverwinter Nights premium modules, Mass Effect, recent Stardock products, etc) so instead, I have been checking out smaller DRM-free developers like Shrapnel, Spiderweb (only with CDs) or Basilisk. I was also going to boycott Dragon Age until Bioware/EA changed their minds on the activation.
From my perspective, I'd welcome seeing companies that punish their consumers going bust. It would clear the field for those who understand that custom is a privilege, not a right.
Hi all, my first post on the forum. PC game is currently dying. But not for long.
I'm 38 and still love computer games. I started in 1980 on a vic 20, then a C64, then Atari ST, then Super Nintendo, then Amiga, then 3DO, then Playstation, then PC, then PSP and Playstation 3.
The best moments of video gaming have been (by far) on the PC.
Two reasons....
1) the control system...the mouse and keyboard....
2) the best resolution
I went into HMW yesterday, and was dismayed at the (small) amount of space for PC games. PC world (yuk!) has almost given up selling PCs!!
Everyones buying Wii's and Laptops. Their PC's are gathering dust under their desks. BUT.....the consoles will quickly date, the laptops will soon become redundant and slow.
It's dying. Anybody that is paying attention and not living a fanboy day dream can OBVIOUSLY see that the PC market IS NOT growing, but shrinking and changing! Unless there is a change in the PC market, then the trend will continue as the new "next gen" consoles come to market. Look at the current top 20 PC games list, how many "Sims" games and console ports are there? How old is WoW now? It is dominated by Sims, MMO, and RTS games...thats it!! Anybody who thinks the consoles will "quickly date" is a fool living in la la land! The 360 is 5 yrs old and the PS2 is 10 yrs old and they're "STILL" making games for it! As the demand for mobility continues to grow, laptops will outpace desktops. Anybody who can't see the PC market for what it is right now and walks into a game store, and notices there are a very small amount of PC games (as is often the case) and notices a "PC" store that has "given up" selling PCs, then OBIVIOUSLY you're on the wrong side of reality.
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Replyyou dumb to think consoles gaming is going be around for long time.
I wonder how much sony and microsft had to lose just to promote consoles
what a joke
maybe they give me a few billion if they want to lose money
Ok, now I'm going to step in an official capacity and give you a proper warning. Stop trolling and multi-posting so stupidly. If you have a legitimate point to make or want to have a serious discussion then at least have the dignity to engage in an open back and forth instead of getting entrenched with a selection of links and feeble name calling.
You're being obtuse and refusing to actually listen to or tolerate what others are saying, so; official public warning. You only get one of these.
you can say any thing you want
you ban me i don't really care
you have proven your creadability and it's here for people to see around the world.
you don't like the turth it's none of my business.
you can threten me all you want, I don't care who are you any way god!
it's only a matter of time before those console become exstint
my words are solid
@CardJoe
oh by the way you can go cry me a river!
"OH pc gaming is dying " we all know how the gaming industry and media works they full of lies!
what a joke!
Now that's funny - exstint, turth, threten?
Byebye!
The 2 biggest biggest problem's in pc gaming currently (at least as I see it) Is that A. there is a section off our pc communitea that belleive's that large company's (not just games manufacturers but ALL large global brands) are destroying the plannet, enslaving the population and generall working towards towards the "New wourld order".
If you want to know more about this phenominon download and watch the movie "zeitguist"
Now if you beleive that large company's are inherently "evil" It's really not that hard to convince yourself that pirateing games is not "morally wrong" and that buy pirating you are actually helping to make the wourld a better place!!!
And secondly these large company's buy cracking down on pirats and ruining there products with drm are just re-enforcing the pirates veiw that that they are right.
It's a huge catch 22 that if it's not sorted will eventually kill pc gaming. The only reason it hasn't allready is that the pc isn't just a gaming mashine.
So next time you're going for that download button,,,, think twice. just because you can dousn't mean you should. Not if you love you're pc and want it to servive the comming storm!!!!!!
Pretty much. After all, as the conclusion obviously implies, PC gaming obviously isn't dying - but it IS changing and evolving. That's a provable point of view expressed across through the entire article, though Dreamhunk obviously failed to pick up on it.
+ Rep to you.
And...ugh. Zeitgeist? Really? You want to believe that trash?
A few years back, I would happily wander into a store and pick up any game that took my fancy, safe in the knowledge that I could visit a site like GameCopyWorld to deal with irritating CD checks.
Then along came StarForce and I could no longer assume that fixes would be available. That meant having to check on games before purchase, killing off any impulse buys and (largely) removing the point of visiting games stores - if you're going to look up a game online, why not purchase it there also? I only purchased one more game from a store as a result.
Now, I have to check the details of any game for DRM details beforehand (gaming review sites and magazines almost all neglect this - why?). There's a long list of games that I would have purchased, but for their online activation requirement (Bioshock, Crysis Warhead, Empire Total War, Neverwinter Nights premium modules, Mass Effect, recent Stardock products, etc) so instead, I have been checking out smaller DRM-free developers like Shrapnel, Spiderweb (only with CDs) or Basilisk. I was also going to boycott Dragon Age until Bioware/EA changed their minds on the activation.
From my perspective, I'd welcome seeing companies that punish their consumers going bust. It would clear the field for those who understand that custom is a privilege, not a right.
I'm 38 and still love computer games. I started in 1980 on a vic 20, then a C64, then Atari ST, then Super Nintendo, then Amiga, then 3DO, then Playstation, then PC, then PSP and Playstation 3.
The best moments of video gaming have been (by far) on the PC.
Two reasons....
1) the control system...the mouse and keyboard....
2) the best resolution
I went into HMW yesterday, and was dismayed at the (small) amount of space for PC games. PC world (yuk!) has almost given up selling PCs!!
Everyones buying Wii's and Laptops. Their PC's are gathering dust under their desks. BUT.....the consoles will quickly date, the laptops will soon become redundant and slow.
Bring on halflife 3.
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